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  • #1
  • First Post: Jun 14, 2014 2:31pm Jun 14, 2014 2:31pm
Hello to all,
First sorry for my english,

Let me introduce me,
I was full time in betting exchange during some years and i’ve stopped some months ago due to new laws in belgium which exclude us of most of betting websites and because i want since a long time to convert me as traditional trader and because of some other things but that’s not interesting ^^
The interesting part is that we can earn a lot of money with betting exchange trading.

So why i’m here you’ll tell me ?
That’s simple , for the reasons described above and because at the beginning i didn’t want to share my strategies ( like many of you i think ) but finally, with them i can win money and make win money to you and because there is no advantage to take them in the grave.
Furthermore i’m enough good to find strategies,etc but i’m enough spendthrift ( to don’t say really spendthrift ) so i don’t spit on money to build a nice bank and invest in forex and last things , there is absolutely NO PROFITABLE STRATEGY across all the forum concerning trading of betting exchange and that’s logical because there is less liquidity so if 10000 guys does the same thing at same moment there would be a problem. ( there are some with the ones you’ll be BE , like some strategies on correct score but the revenues of these guys are principally their members ).

So i think i can be really useful here.

But like me, i guess you like to see some proofs , so here they are (hopefully for you, there is a time in which i liked to take screenshots ^^) :

5000€ in 1 week ( that was a nice week )

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7500€ last 30 days

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818€ if LU wins and 983€ if Seppi wins

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roddick 510€

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another roddick

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leipchenko- paszek 170€

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and finally to change, a little bit of horse racing

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My strategies are not exclusively on sports but also on indices.


I'm not a sales representative , i'm a trader and i've not yet a tariff plan because it's really difficult to evaluate of course so i'm open to the dicussion .

A main advantage for you is that, as you can see in the screen, the gains are pretty big so you can quickly pay the cost of training courses of and that's not a middle or bad strategy like so many
on this forum in which it's just the ability of the trader which make win some % in a year.

This subject is open to you like my private messaging for personal and contact details.


good evening and nice world cup to all !
  • #2
  • Jun 15, 2014 5:41am Jun 15, 2014 5:41am
Quoting thomasz1
Hello to all, First sorry for my english, Let me introduce me, I was full time in betting exchange during some years and i’ve stopped some months ago due to new laws in belgium which exclude us of most of betting websites and because i want since a long time to convert me as traditional trader and because of some other things but that’s not interesting ^^ The interesting part is that we can earn a lot of money with betting exchange trading. So why i’m here you’ll tell me ? That’s simple , for the reasons described above and because at the beginning...
I knew the betting excange several years ago, and I have to say that it is much more risky forex, as even in the picture you posted you a payout of € 96 on all horses, but if he were to win the wrong you lose 795 Euros.

As you can see I'm good too, and use a professional platform
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  • #3
  • Edited 8:33am Jun 15, 2014 7:26am | Edited 8:33am
Quoting Mylanel
{quote} I knew the betting excange several years ago, and I have to say that it is much more risky forex, as even in the picture you posted you a payout of € 96 on all horses, but if he were to win the wrong you lose 795 Euros. As you can see I'm good too, and use a professional platform {image} {image}
ahah you don't even know my strategies so don't make statements like that, please,

furthermore that's the only one in which a liability is staying and you can see the odd is at 1000 because the horse wasn't anymore involved in the win since a certain time ( in comparison to the 1,01 of winner and 15 of the second )
and if i had put 1€ at 1000 and cover all the risk you would be happy but that's just useless.
Of course i didn't take the bet when the odd was 1000 but it's a part of my strategy on horses so i can't develop but i can tell you the odd has directly jumped @ 1000

And important, i've forgotten to say something basic is that... if the odd of horse decreases ( what is impossible ) i can cut the position when i want ,
so, never i'll lose 795 !

that's not because i don't hedge in this strategy that means is risky ! But i've different strategies, this one on horses is of course the most stressing.
I've really relax strategies on tennis,NBA,etc


and it's much more risky...WHEN we know nothing , of course, because in-play is exciting .

i think the premium charge recap screenshot,etc are good proofs i win on the long term.

you who is a pro... you should be aware of what the premium charge means

PS : could you tell me what's the interest to post moving averages screenshots during an in-play race ahahaha
you've made my day ^^
(if it's to show that you are using an advanced plateform to trade that's desperate...
it's like if someone here would post " look guys, i've downloaded metatrader i'am professionnal ! " .... )
  • #4
  • Jun 15, 2014 7:51am Jun 15, 2014 7:51am
Quoting thomasz1
{quote} ahah you don't even know my strategies so don't make statements like that, please, furthermore that's the only one in which a liability is staying and you can see the odd is at 1000 because the horse wasn't anymore involved in the win since a certain time ( in comparison to the 1,01 of winner and 15 of the second ) and if i had put 1€ at 1000 and cover all the risk you would be happy but that's just useless. Of course i didn't take the bet when the odd was 1000 but it's a part of my strategy on horses so i can't develop but i can tell...
My intention was to warn that trading is a very risky business, and in certain situations such as live horses much more volatile than the DAX, with the tools you use (geekstoy) I do not think you'd have time to close a leak in this field, a big chunk of income is given by the speed, and there are professionals who have invested a lot of money to be on, also on sporting events there is a delay every time you enter in your market order is executed approximately 7 8 seconds after like in football, 6 seconds in tennis.

Could you post a video that I'm sure many people will be curious

I'll explain what are the graphics, because only those who work in the pre-live is essential to have an analysis of what is happening in the market, but if you have to work in the live well avre other instruments or be a trader betfair, and be able to to enter the market before all without the annoying seconds to wait
  • #5
  • Jun 15, 2014 8:18am Jun 15, 2014 8:18am
yeah yeah we all know these guys but what you've forgotten that's i've won my life with that too

for example the channel in bookmaker shop to watch horses is SISTV , it costs around 15000€ the year to have it ( must admit i've thought to buy it )

but that's not necessary ! you couldn't catch all the same opportunities but you have still plenty of ways to make money.

but it's like here, for forex,etc
there are big boys working in better conditions than us but is that meaned retails can't be profitable ? of course not !


concerning the delay , the delay is the same for everybody, pro or not pro , so i don't see the interest to talk about it !

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Could you post a video that I'm sure many people will be curious

ahah yes of course and you don't want that i give you directly 5000€ additionally to my strategies ?

we are not in the "strategies " part of the forum but in commercial section if you didn't understand...


but whatever, the screenshots of premium charge,etc are proofs,

what the next posts of embittered loser you'll continue to post ?

that all my screen are just photoshoped or something like that ?

if you want to continue in that way and say that all retails are stupid and just pro and broker/bookmaker can win,
please continue on another thread , there are a lot of threads of strategies in which you'll can try to proof to everyone that the truth is that we can't win in this game
  • #6
  • Jun 15, 2014 8:36am Jun 15, 2014 8:36am
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but if you have to work in the live well avre other instruments or be a trader betfair

don't understand your sentence,

and for the " annoying seconds " for horses in-play that's just 1 second.... ( important to precise for people who don't know all that )
  • #7
  • Jun 15, 2014 8:39am Jun 15, 2014 8:39am
Quoting thomasz1
yeah yeah we all know these guys but what you've forgotten that's i've won my life with that too for example the channel in bookmaker shop to watch horses is SISTV , it costs around 15000€ the year to have it ( must admit i've thought to buy it ) but that's not necessary ! you couldn't catch all the same opportunities but you have still plenty of ways to make money. but it's like here, for forex,etc there are big boys working in better conditions than us but is that meaned retails can't be profitable ? of course not ! concerning the delay , the...
I do not think that the second delay to put an order to have it all, and I repeat to you since you opened this discussion, I expressed my opinion, as I think many traders do not even know what it is, and I have to say that trading is a very more risky, and in times of volatility, there are no stop loss, because they are never taken

If I'm saying things that are not true to say please!

A video does not show where your strategies, but only the operation live so that people can search for existing volatility do not think it is wrong
  • #8
  • Jun 15, 2014 8:44am Jun 15, 2014 8:44am
Quoting thomasz1
{quote} don't understand your sentence, and for the " annoying seconds " for horses in-play that's just 1 second.... ( important to precise for people who don't know all that )
1 second delay if you work in live during times of volatility that we move about 10 times faster than the news in forex and running without stop loss means that you're about to crash into a wall. The reason why I gave up several years ago is that we realized that someone came in and out before me in the market
  • #9
  • Jun 15, 2014 8:51am Jun 15, 2014 8:51am
no problem if you just express your opinion

but since the beginning you're insinuating with irony that i'm a lier and i can't support that , that's all.

Because i can tell you that if i didn't win money , i didn't stay in front of my screen during these long night of NBA between 1am and 6am !

there are tons of videos on youtube to show to people how a live race looks like

furthermore, the volatility is extremely depending of where is the race, what happens in the race,etc
posting a video will establish 0 proof. Of course if you're trying to trade french races it will be complicated^^
  • #10
  • Jun 15, 2014 9:04am Jun 15, 2014 9:04am
Quoting Mylanel
{quote} 1 second delay if you work in live during times of volatility that we move about 10 times faster than the news in forex and running without stop loss means that you're about to crash into a wall. The reason why I gave up several years ago is that we realized that someone came in and out before me in the market
i would like to answer more to this but i can't ( you can PM me if you want to )

for horses you'll not be the first to be matched for the main horses but they are not the only ones to look
i've also thought to go directly on the racecourse , some traders rent places to bet directly from spectators
but i didn't want to change country and that's pretty hard to find an available place these days,
because a lot of people asking for.

( for the anecdote, managers of these places for spectators ( sorry for my english ) say that the betfair trader are really great clients because they just ask a cup of coffee and don't do the diva ^^ )

but, especially , why all these problems since i won already ^^ ? ( yes ok... to win yet more, but hey, you can be happy with what you have )
  • #11
  • Jun 15, 2014 9:06am Jun 15, 2014 9:06am
Quoting thomasz1
no problem if you just express your opinion but since the beginning you're insinuating with irony that i'm a lier and i can't support that , that's all. Because i can tell you that if i didn't win money , i didn't stay in front of my screen during these long night of NBA between 1am and 6am ! there are tons of videos on youtube to show to people how a live race looks like furthermore, the volatility is extremely depending of where is the race, what happens in the race,etc posting a video will establish 0 proof. Of course if you're trying to...

if you work in the pre-live I can understand that you have strategies, but at the moment it appears the inscription in-play must be accompanied by luck, because as they say the ball is round.
  • #12
  • Jun 15, 2014 9:22am Jun 15, 2014 9:22am
Quoting Mylanel
{quote} if you work in the pre-live I can understand that you have strategies, but at the moment it appears the inscription in-play must be accompanied by luck, because as they say the ball is round.
sorry but that's really stupid

so in off-play , things are fixed , and there is a scenario given in advance ?

of course not ! all people will react to the news concerning horses,etc

and nobody can predict all that , that's the same for forex with news,etc and all kind of investment !

that doesn't mean we can't make strategies ! You have "just" to make strategies which take that part of mishap into account


it's exactly the same for in-play,

furthermore on sprint i agree it's just suicide !

i was used to trade only at more than 1m6f to be able to master the situation
  • #13
  • Jun 15, 2014 1:04pm Jun 15, 2014 1:04pm
I see most of the profits you made ​​playing tennis live.
Can you explain the strategy on how you play tennis?
  • #14
  • Jun 15, 2014 1:25pm Jun 15, 2014 1:25pm
hello zogicdz,

no problem you can contact me by private message
  • #15
  • Edited 6:43am Jun 17, 2014 5:07am | Edited 6:43am
i would like to precise i'm NOT a signal provider and i don't put simply stupid bet which are reposing on my knowledges of who are good or not,

the odds are really well established with extensive statistics , so you need to find a strategy ,

but don't hope win because you know well the football or something like that

and so, i don't offer test period , because i propose to share my strategies not to trade for you and not to send you signals
  • #16
  • Last Post: Jun 17, 2014 10:49am Jun 17, 2014 10:49am
How much are u selling your Strategy?
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