Please note that this thread is a JOURNAL that may or may not evolve into full-blown stabilized systems. If you read some of the other journal threads, you'll see that people have been posting to their journals for years and their methodologies often move in new directions. Their exploration continues. If your argument/contention is that newbies may be misinformed here, maybe they should be cautioned to stay skeptical when reading "journals" and follow the "systems" and "commercial" threads instead where the rules are more settled.
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- Edited 12:44pm Jun 13, 2014 12:29pm | Edited 12:44pm
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always like a heated discussion about trading religion 
. My hats off to Eitan for sharing his hard work for free. Be careful of those selling systems that boast massive percentage wins like this. At some point after "following along blindly" you are going to have to make it your own/do the backtesting yourself or you won't have confidence to sit through the drawdown that EVERY system has. It boils down to what you are personally comfortable with...some people have the need to be right every time or they just can't handle it psychologically. With good risk to reward you can be right 30% of the time and still have a very profitable system. I think any system is going to undergo "tweaking" and refinement through ever changing market conditions, if not you're probably doomed to fail if you are not willing to change as new information comes to light. I've learned from a number of different mentors...still looking forward to seeing more about what you are doing here, still have no clue, but you always need to take what you learn and filter it through yourself or you are just spinning your wheels. The main reason I post on my thread is not so that other people will follow what I'm doing its so I can say it out loud to myself, keeping myself accountable etc. I've been a teacher in the public school system and I've always told my students if you can't teach it to someone else you don't know it. Its great training to journal your trades, so that you can go back and review, what you've done right and wrong. Once you have your system in place it just boils down to execution. You really should measure your success by how well you executed your trading plan, not by your P/L. A losing trade is a good trade if you executed to the T by your trading plan (I think a lot of new traders miss that point and have trouble dealing with it. You gotta know it's part of the game) That's given that your trading plan has been backtested over time to be profitable as it appears Eitan's has. There's always going to be exceptions to the rule and adaptation to a certain degree, IMO. Reading price action on a chart is like learning a foreign language..you might learn some phrases to get by, but it takes years to be fluent. Discipline, hard work, yes good money management is the only way to win in this business. Just my three cents. Good luck Eitan in your trading journey. 
. My hats off to Eitan for sharing his hard work for free. Be careful of those selling systems that boast massive percentage wins like this. At some point after "following along blindly" you are going to have to make it your own/do the backtesting yourself or you won't have confidence to sit through the drawdown that EVERY system has. It boils down to what you are personally comfortable with...some people have the need to be right every time or they just can't handle it psychologically. With good risk to reward you can be right 30% of the time and still have a very profitable system. I think any system is going to undergo "tweaking" and refinement through ever changing market conditions, if not you're probably doomed to fail if you are not willing to change as new information comes to light. I've learned from a number of different mentors...still looking forward to seeing more about what you are doing here, still have no clue, but you always need to take what you learn and filter it through yourself or you are just spinning your wheels. The main reason I post on my thread is not so that other people will follow what I'm doing its so I can say it out loud to myself, keeping myself accountable etc. I've been a teacher in the public school system and I've always told my students if you can't teach it to someone else you don't know it. Its great training to journal your trades, so that you can go back and review, what you've done right and wrong. Once you have your system in place it just boils down to execution. You really should measure your success by how well you executed your trading plan, not by your P/L. A losing trade is a good trade if you executed to the T by your trading plan (I think a lot of new traders miss that point and have trouble dealing with it. You gotta know it's part of the game) That's given that your trading plan has been backtested over time to be profitable as it appears Eitan's has. There's always going to be exceptions to the rule and adaptation to a certain degree, IMO. Reading price action on a chart is like learning a foreign language..you might learn some phrases to get by, but it takes years to be fluent. Discipline, hard work, yes good money management is the only way to win in this business. Just my three cents. Good luck Eitan in your trading journey. 
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- Jun 13, 2014 12:57pm Jun 13, 2014 12:57pm
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- #3,365
- Jun 13, 2014 12:59pm Jun 13, 2014 12:59pm
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when GOD brings you a challenge he also gives you the power to deal with it
- #3,366
- Jun 13, 2014 1:02pm Jun 13, 2014 1:02pm
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Wating a next release
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- #3,367
- Jun 13, 2014 1:08pm Jun 13, 2014 1:08pm
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Hi guys theres is no perfect system what we need is to figure it out to have a small stoploss and big profit so we can survive the market can anyone here upload this following indicator PLS...... thnx
yes there is..
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- #3,368
- Jun 13, 2014 1:09pm Jun 13, 2014 1:09pm
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{quote} You're misinformed. I've been watching it all along. They took the gbp/jpy trade as an experimental trade and told us "NOT TO FOLLOW" These guys are trying to perfect the system, trying new things. Even with all that they could have taken profits on that trade as it was in the money for a while. They chose not to. Also if you look at Eitan's trade explorer, it took him 170 trades to get there. He didn't just have a few "lucky" runs.
here is good folower!! notice for important things
i like it!
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- #3,370
- Jun 13, 2014 1:12pm Jun 13, 2014 1:12pm
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{quote} Yes i so shame buddy .. Thnks so much to illuminate us with your knowledge There is my explorer enjoy it. sincerely Roman. Important note : I dont make anything for this system please all thanks to eitan this is he's pure job and best strategy in this forum.. I will stick to the system. He is a great person i have ever met. I respect and love him so much. Thanks to all and big thanks to eitan. My suggest who likes this thread, stick to the system. Works absolutely great. Since im here i only lost 1 trade according to system rules and that...
love you my brother , missed you.
forget from this hotshot!
i need you with free mind!
when GOD brings you a challenge he also gives you the power to deal with it
- #3,371
- Jun 13, 2014 1:20pm Jun 13, 2014 1:20pm
- | Commercial User | Joined Apr 2013 | 1,600 Posts
{quote} Finally someone see the truth. Maybe we repeat 10 times to not follow and 4 times we catch chance to close it 50+ profit. But on new system always price gone +500 pips +200 pips.. We tryed catch big fish.. Lost small one.. But some people BLIND they are only talkng bullsht here about their knowledge.. Very sad that they dont respect hard work.. Eitan is a great man.. God bless him.
Eitan, you should ignore all these people that are bringing this negative energy into the thread.
Behind every great thing there are always a few haters, just ignore them and move on and enjoy a good weekend buddy
Behind every great thing there are always a few haters, just ignore them and move on and enjoy a good weekend buddy
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- Jun 13, 2014 1:33pm Jun 13, 2014 1:33pm
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- Jun 13, 2014 1:50pm Jun 13, 2014 1:50pm
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{quote} Find it sad, that you dont stick with us anymore. Only cause some idiots, whats with all the ppl who apreciate your work and are gratfull that you share with us your system and teaching us...... Please come back Eitan and just ignore the flameing ppl ...
as i said i still breath and kick and kicking some bad asses on the way
when GOD brings you a challenge he also gives you the power to deal with it
- #3,376
- Jun 13, 2014 1:57pm Jun 13, 2014 1:57pm
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Come on ... If you guys want to use the systems, just use ... they are all here in the thread and for free. Use it with your own money management. If not, just follow your life and leave the man in peace. He is strong and in this business only the strong survive.
Neural Network Algorithm and Econophysics
- #3,377
- Jun 13, 2014 2:04pm Jun 13, 2014 2:04pm
- Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Trader | 25,480 Posts
Wow! Lots of drama going on in here lately....eh brother? I'll only say one thing here.
When Thomas Edison was accused of "failing" his over 1000 attempts at perfecting a filament for the electric light bulb his response was, "I didn't fail over 1000 times. I discovered over 1000 ways how NOT to make a long lasting filament".
Success in anything takes trial and error. In some cases (like FOREX), a LOT of it! Thomas Edison didn't invent the light bulb. He "perfected" it. Just as Eitan didn't invent these indicators and systems. He's "perfecting them".
You go right on working on your filament my dear brother. You'll perfect it yet and I have no doubt one day it will shine it's light brightly upon others.
God bless you brother. You as well Vigovski. 
When Thomas Edison was accused of "failing" his over 1000 attempts at perfecting a filament for the electric light bulb his response was, "I didn't fail over 1000 times. I discovered over 1000 ways how NOT to make a long lasting filament".
Success in anything takes trial and error. In some cases (like FOREX), a LOT of it! Thomas Edison didn't invent the light bulb. He "perfected" it. Just as Eitan didn't invent these indicators and systems. He's "perfecting them".
You go right on working on your filament my dear brother. You'll perfect it yet and I have no doubt one day it will shine it's light brightly upon others.
God bless you brother. You as well Vigovski.
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
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- Jun 13, 2014 2:17pm Jun 13, 2014 2:17pm
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Wow! Lots of drama going on in here lately....eh brother? I'll only say one thing here. When Thomas Edison was accused of "failing" his over 1000 attempts at perfecting a filament for the electric light bulb his response was, "I didn't fail over 1000 times. I discovered over 1000 ways how NOT to make a long lasting filament". Success in anything takes trial and error. In some cases (like FOREX), a LOT of it! Thomas Edison didn't invent the light bulb. He "perfected" it. Just as Eitan didn't invent these indicators and systems. He's "perfecting them"....
what an huge soul i have here !!
i have won for having you as my friend!!
love you brother!!
my best Regards
great weekend
Eitan.
when GOD brings you a challenge he also gives you the power to deal with it
I came across to this thread only 2 days ago and I have managed to finished/ review information provided here. I was really happy , excited to find about Great Sir Eitan's System and his many supports , helpers and friends until today just to find out Eitan will not be here anymore.
I am feeling sad because the system works. He has created this thread to help people and he has succeeded . There are people who just love to hate . So let them hate. I don't even wanna bother talking with these kind o@#$%@# trolls. But there are people who loves what YOU are doing and I believe people who admire you are far greater than these troll monkeys.
Eitan do you know whats written on your biography on your profile page?
This "when GOD bring u a challenge he also give u the power to deal with it".
Eitan.
You are not alone in your challenge anymore because you already have made friends who helps you like you helped us all.
Please comeback . We need you on this journey. You have created so many happy smiles here so please dont let them frown because of some clueless trolls . God bless you brother Eitan and Vigovski (http://www.forexfactory.com/vigovski) . BE BACK 
I am feeling sad because the system works. He has created this thread to help people and he has succeeded . There are people who just love to hate . So let them hate. I don't even wanna bother talking with these kind o@#$%@# trolls. But there are people who loves what YOU are doing and I believe people who admire you are far greater than these troll monkeys.
Eitan do you know whats written on your biography on your profile page?
This "when GOD bring u a challenge he also give u the power to deal with it".
Eitan.
You are not alone in your challenge anymore because you already have made friends who helps you like you helped us all.
Please comeback . We need you on this journey. You have created so many happy smiles here so please dont let them frown because of some clueless trolls . God bless you brother Eitan and Vigovski (http://www.forexfactory.com/vigovski) .
BE BACK 