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  • #25,461
  • Apr 29, 2014 12:19pm Apr 29, 2014 12:19pm
I read and learn . VZA is very, very interesting .

I use it only in H1, zoom out, only UHV. Then I confirm the result in H4. VZA Are areas of SR and range, and are very good opportunities for trading. thanks for sharing your knowledge
Newbie trader
  • #25,462
  • Apr 29, 2014 1:00pm Apr 29, 2014 1:00pm
Quoting pres78
Where did everybody go? Knock, knock, knock!!! Hello is anybody in there? {image}
Hi Pres78,

I am here at least 3 or 4 days a week for a few hours each time. I have been impressed about yorur VZA analysis. Trying to incorporate it into what i learnt from Rocky here at FF.

it is an exciting journey. Have you ever checked his charts?
  • #25,463
  • Apr 29, 2014 1:03pm Apr 29, 2014 1:03pm
Quoting Trappist
{quote} Hi Pres78, I am here at least 3 or 4 days a week for a few hours each time. I have been impressed about yorur VZA analysis. Trying to incorporate it into what i learnt from Rocky here at FF. it is an exciting journey. Have you ever checked his charts?
Yes it is an exciting journey indeed. Nope I have never heard of Rocky before. Well I hope that you can gain some added advantages on your trading with what you have / are learning from this VSA forum and my bastardized version of it (VZA).
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #25,464
  • Apr 29, 2014 2:08pm Apr 29, 2014 2:08pm
Quoting fex
I read and learn . VZA is very, very interesting . I use it only in H1, zoom out, only UHV. Then I confirm the result in H4. VZA Are areas of SR and range, and are very good opportunities for trading. thanks for sharing your knowledge
I am glad that you are having success with your own spin on using the zones.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #25,465
  • Apr 29, 2014 8:09pm Apr 29, 2014 8:09pm
Quoting pres78
{quote} The moral of this story is if in this business you pay for anything make sure it's fishing lessons. At some point in the future the guy you are buying your fish from may decide he doesn't want to sell fish anymore and you are once again left hungry.
That is a good moral.. But what about having the conviction to stay in a trade off of someone else's signal?

Besides I wouldnt follow Gavin, if you go to somewhere around 44 minutes into the video he shorts ES with two SOs in the background. One has high volume the other has a fairly wide spread.

Spoiler alert: The trade goes against him.
  • #25,466
  • Apr 29, 2014 8:23pm Apr 29, 2014 8:23pm
Quoting pres78
Where did everybody go? Knock, knock, knock!!! Hello is anybody in there? {image}
Damnit, I am trying to be retired here.

Fine here is a trade I was playing with last week. It wasnt the most graceful trade but it paid out well today.

The first time I exited the trade I was worried about the high volume coming back down into the area of my entry, I dont think Liam really agreed with that but I was able to get a second entry.
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  • #25,467
  • Apr 29, 2014 9:23pm Apr 29, 2014 9:23pm
Quoting pres78
Where did everybody go? Knock, knock, knock!!! Hello is anybody in there? {image}
I have a feeling everybody is doing something similar to me: studying every post you have ever written about VZA.

I know you're busy, so I have been making a conscious effort not to ask you a lot of questions. (it's on now ).
Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
  • #25,468
  • Apr 30, 2014 6:38am Apr 30, 2014 6:38am
Quoting HiddenGap
{quote} I have a feeling everybody is doing something similar to me: studying every post you have ever written about VZA. I know you're busy, so I have been making a conscious effort not to ask you a lot of questions. (it's on now ).
Now HG that's not the deal. You are supposed to ask the questions and quizzes, not questions to me directly !!!

Nah everyone is busy making their VSA millions I am sure of it.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #25,469
  • Apr 30, 2014 8:40am Apr 30, 2014 8:40am
Quoting SimpleDev
{quote} Damnit, I am trying to be retired here. Fine here is a trade I was playing with last week. It wasnt the most graceful trade but it paid out well today. The first time I exited the trade I was worried about the high volume coming back down into the area of my entry, I dont think Liam really agreed with that but I was able to get a second entry. {image}
Yeah me too but I keep coming back!

Nice trade and it worked out great anyway. A little better slightly lower entry all good from what I see.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #25,470
  • Apr 30, 2014 1:48pm Apr 30, 2014 1:48pm
Quoting Trappist
{quote} Hi Pres78, I am here at least 3 or 4 days a week for a few hours each time. I have been impressed about yorur VZA analysis. Trying to incorporate it into what i learnt from Rocky here at FF. it is an exciting journey. Have you ever checked his charts?
Hey Trappist,

I have been following the The Pres for a while as well. Have been adding VZA to my analisys as of late too. What the Pres has brought, adding to that what Rocky was putting out.. plus my own twist on Supply/Demand..Lots of great info !!!

TSD
  • #25,471
  • Apr 30, 2014 5:36pm Apr 30, 2014 5:36pm
Quoting TraderinSD
{quote} Hey Trappist, I have been following the The Pres for a while as well. Have been adding VZA to my analisys as of late too. What the Pres has brought, adding to that what Rocky was putting out.. plus my own twist on Supply/Demand..Lots of great info !!! TSD
Now here is somebody that needs to post more............

Hi TraderinSD, been missing your great posts. Hope to see more of them.
Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
  • #25,472
  • May 1, 2014 3:42am May 1, 2014 3:42am
TraderinSD,

Nice to hear from you. Have you been able to trade full time as a job?

Are you still trading lower time frames ?

P.s : Rocky had developed a new method lately different fr SD+Fibs+VSA. He stopped posting suddenly and shared only two examples of his new method. I believe his new method was something similar to a mix of VZA and VSA.




Quoting TraderinSD
{quote} Hey Trappist, I have been following the The Pres for a while as well. Have been adding VZA to my analisys as of late too. What the Pres has brought, adding to that what Rocky was putting out.. plus my own twist on Supply/Demand..Lots of great info !!! TSD
  • #25,473
  • May 1, 2014 10:56am May 1, 2014 10:56am
Dear friends,

Mal is talking about daily and weekly ranges in this post. I assume that the range is the price movement from open to close.

He recommends to observe daily and weekly ranges before opening a position.

Is there anybody who has experiences on this subject how to follow and determine these ranges and how to take it into consideration before trig an entry ?

Quoting malcolmb14
1st thing I will discuss .. daily and weekly ranges. eu moves about 130 pip a day right now , some days in a week will be less and some days more , day traders only need to capture 40 pip of this range to make 4% a week BUT what do they do .. one trade , two trades , three trades , 4 .. next thing you know they are 'a.d.d trader' . all you need is one trade , one sure set up and 40 pip is EASY weekly range is 350 pip in eu . why do you think I was jesting with magix all week ? do you really think i was concerned I was underwater on a eu sell of...
  • #25,474
  • Edited 11:14am May 1, 2014 11:02am | Edited 11:14am
Quoting Trappist
Dear friends, Mal is talking about daily and weekly ranges in this post. I assume that the range is the price movement from open to close. He recommends to observe daily and weekly ranges before opening a position. Is there anybody who has experiences on this subject how to follow and determine these ranges and how to take it into consideration before trig an entry ? {quote}
There are many range indicators made for MT4 that can give you this information at a glance. If EU had an ADR of 69 for the past 60 days and price has already moved 65 pips and we are sitting at the days high unless there is news or a nice retrace to buy in lower a long at this point is higher risk. Yes we exceed and fall under the ranges all the time so it is just a guideline and something to keep an eye on. EU for example moved around 103 pips yesterday so it exceeded the 60 day ADR.

I follow ADR, AWR and AMR's for any pairs I trade and do take them into consideration when weighing the risk of a trade.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #25,475
  • May 2, 2014 5:42am May 2, 2014 5:42am
Quoting pres78
{quote} There are many range indicators made for MT4 that can give you this information at a glance. If EU had an ADR of 69 for the past 60 days and price has already moved 65 pips and we are sitting at the days high unless there is news or a nice retrace to buy in lower a long at this point is higher risk. Yes we exceed and fall under the ranges all the time so it is just a guideline and something to keep an eye on. EU for example moved around 103 pips yesterday so it exceeded the 60 day ADR. I follow ADR, AWR and AMR's for any pairs I trade and...
using 60 days ADR is your personal preference... or its necessary to use 60 days.. is it good to use it for overbought over sold conditions to some extant?.. and you please share these indicators that you are using in your MT4.. thanks in advance.. waiting
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  • #25,476
  • May 2, 2014 7:49am May 2, 2014 7:49am
Quoting classix
{quote} using 60 days ADR is your personal preference... or its necessary to use 60 days.. is it good to use it for overbought over sold conditions to some extant?.. and you please share these indicators that you are using in your MT4.. thanks in advance.. waiting
You can use any number. I like 60 because it basically means the last 60 trading days or roughly 3 months. Smaller ADR's bounce around too much for my liking. I also use a higher amount for my weekly and monthly ranges. I have an indicator that I build for MT4 that gives me varioud range values. I will post it later when I get home. You can see it on the right side of any recent charts I have posted.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #25,477
  • May 2, 2014 2:30pm May 2, 2014 2:30pm
Nice mixed signals on EU that last 2 days. ND yesterday, potential SO today.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #25,478
  • May 2, 2014 6:06pm May 2, 2014 6:06pm
Quoting HiddenGap
{quote} Now here is somebody that needs to post more............ Hi TraderinSD, been missing your great posts. Hope to see more of them.

Hi HG,

Thank you for the kind words.. Will make an effrot to post here.

Just did not want to disrupt the thread with my - different style - I will throw something up and see what kind of response we get.

Good to speak with you again. Enjoying your posts on this thead as well !!

TSD
  • #25,479
  • May 2, 2014 6:15pm May 2, 2014 6:15pm
Quoting TraderinSD
{quote} Hi HG, Thank you for the kind words.. Will make an effrot to post here. Just did not want to disrupt the thread with my - different style - I will throw something up and see what kind of response we get. Good to speak with you again. Enjoying your posts on this thead as well !! TSD
Always enjoy your posts with charts & explanations.
Thanks!
  • #25,480
  • May 2, 2014 6:20pm May 2, 2014 6:20pm
Quoting Trappist
TraderinSD, Nice to hear from you. Have you been able to trade full time as a job? Are you still trading lower time frames ? P.s : Rocky had developed a new method lately different fr SD+Fibs+VSA. He stopped posting suddenly and shared only two examples of his new method. I believe his new method was something similar to a mix of VZA and VSA. {quote}

Hi Trappist,

No, still a part time. Yes, still trading the lower TF's but not as much. 15M, 30M, 60M have presented the opportunites of late. Not really married to any TF.. Just if the set up is correct will take trade.

Would like to see that from Rocky.... His method was very solid!

Enjoying this thread !

TSD
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