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  • #45,581
  • Edited 11:17pm Apr 5, 2014 10:51pm | Edited 11:17pm
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} hi fti, thanks, ill go relook through the thread for the details. cheers.
I listening, prefer latin version, but cannot find from you
In latino is known as regressa mi. but don't show bunch men sing woman's song please.

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regards
  • #45,582
  • Edited 7:23am Apr 6, 2014 4:38am | Edited 7:23am
Quoting fti
{quote} oh i see. noted. hedge? you mean cut loss. without booking it like decieved peeps , of course until his death bed then the loss realised? hedging is for physicals traders. they purposely create instruments hedge to protect their wares. Normally hedge is to protect cost flutuations, in the real world. like, 1 example, if you manufacture a product that uses sugar. then you need hedge your sugar cost against price fluctuations. So you buy as much forward paper sugar as you can. Doing this assure your cost of sugar will remain constant over...

someonr took liberty show me what you talking about.

let me tell you something.
the markets are alive.
For every strategy, there is a counter measure.
you make $, you stay under the radar
You show on radar and you splash.

I am not guessing, I know.

regards

all dogs may look alike, its not necessary so.

50+ pips float stops with flip and say no stop loss?
couldm't be ma mood i hope.
ya i haven't eaten a thing today.
This morning had toast and coffee.
1 bowl noodle for lunch.
sweets & coffee for high tea and coffee double dose.
but today i haven't eaten a thing. Only swallowed.

may catch some profits if catch a trend run, with a tweeked black box
but even parabolic stops will out perform ma and point & figure filter strategies mostly. when on runs.
more experience in markets maybe you will understand. even bought MACDonuts.: )
coupled with loss lockings, your carpet can be very filled. but carpets can hide some stuff.
but over time, may look like a mole hill.

hedging. maybe is a broker misconceived. hedging:rofl :
I think even junior dealers will laugh.
ok enough, i already said more than 2 cents worth.
I am still laughing lots, but here only allow 8.
is ok God stopped at 7.
5 is too short.
adam was made on 6th.
after that must gave been very tired. what a headache.: rofl:

what did alan watts say?
since he borrowed from the chinese .
i borroe back from him.
when the wrong man uses the right tools , the tools work in a .... way. :robl: "rolling on my bed laughing."
what happened to the left tools? : robl:
left outside? :55555555555555555555555555

In Thai 5=ha
In nihongo 5=go same as in minnan(hokkien,fujien)

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  • #45,583
  • Edited 10:04am Apr 6, 2014 7:18am | Edited 10:04am
really is very scary at slow speeds without competent minds running things.
then we expect build robots go hypersonic speeds and expect them land trades safely without the minds controlling things.
i dread the days when need salvage traders in south Indian oceans.

Robot builders, best they stay off this thread.
The double edge sword can split you if you ambitious and lazy.

Tell you the facts.
If robots could, i would had build it already.
decades ago.
Humans have brains. Robots not know how pull handbrakes. they not even know is scraping against a wall when it comes to balls and brains situations.

Let me ask a very honest question.
do you get more service at a bank teller than at an automated money despenser?
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  • #45,584
  • Edited 10:51am Apr 6, 2014 10:33am | Edited 10:51am
Quoting fti
really is very scary at slow speeds without competent minds running things. then we expect build robots go hypersonic speeds and expect them land trades safely without the minds controlling things. i dread the days when need salvage traders in south Indian oceans. Robot builders, best they stay off this thread. The double edge sword can split you if you ambitious and lazy. Tell you the facts. If robots could, i would had build it already. decades ago. Humans have brains. Robots not know how pull handbrakes. they not even know is scraping against...
sorry for faulty ram, maybe i also check the cpu.
maybe technician forgot load it with $.
if you like you can kick my machine.

oh you have technicians, ok, but are they same machine heads same as the machine?
can they understand human situations?
Ya i understand that these days service peeps are trained mimic machines.
but i not have confidence that the training(programming) will afford them the ability fight me in market place.
I can paint for them colours they never seen before. Way way beyond their algo capacity.
you nmay not understand, me markets are alive, not machines.

regards
  • #45,585
  • Apr 6, 2014 12:57pm Apr 6, 2014 12:57pm
Quoting fti
{quote} oh i see. noted. hedge? you mean cut loss. without booking it like decieved peeps , of course until his death bed then the loss realised? hedging is for physicals traders. they purposely create instruments hedge to protect their wares. Normally hedge is to protect cost flutuations, in the real world. like, 1 example, if you manufacture a product that uses sugar. then you need hedge your sugar cost against price fluctuations. So you buy as much forward paper sugar as you can. Doing this assure your cost of sugar will remain constant over...
Hi FTI
How r u?
I think that the hedge which is done by retail traders is like FREEZe and raincheck of the current position
I agree with you that it is loss that is not booked yet.
But I think for some poeple it is more like a scout tat gauge market pulse.
I mean that if one closed and not hedged his state of mind will be in "New Trade Search"
but if he hedged he freezed his position and because the loss is not booked but it is
freezed now the trader can make zoom out and try to think in order to restart his trading
that will continue from point that he Freezes but he can wait for more tradable situation in the market
Like the position with scout that just gauge the pusle
Regards
Michael
Do not be victim to conflict of the General and Commander in you - by FTI
  • #45,586
  • Edited 3:35pm Apr 6, 2014 3:16pm | Edited 3:35pm
Quoting -Michael-
{quote} Hi FTI How r u? I think that the hedge which is done by retail traders is like FREEZe and raincheck of the current position I agree with you that it is loss that is not booked yet. But I think for some poeple it is more like a scout tat gauge market pulse. I mean that if one closed and not hedged his state of mind will be in "New Trade Search" but if he hedged he freezed his position and because the loss is not booked but it is freezed now the trader can make zoom out and try to think in order to restart his trading that will continue...
Really Micheal?

Let me tell you the truth.
for retail traders is Freeze and raincheck?.
for
Professional dealers is actually FREEZE and JAILTIME.
Because if any of my dealers did that.
I would have him in JAIL under FRAUD charges.
and the back ofice manager that allowed the booking of the trades this way, in the next cell.
Accomplice to defraud the bank.
And the internal auditor who did not reported this to BOD in the next for delinquence of duty to protect bank from fraudulent dealing practises.


regards
  • #45,587
  • Apr 6, 2014 9:45pm Apr 6, 2014 9:45pm
Quoting fti
{quote} Really Micheal? Let me tell you the truth. for retail traders is Freeze and raincheck?. for Professional dealers is actually FREEZE and JAILTIME. Because if any of my dealers did that. I would have him in JAIL under FRAUD charges. and the back ofice manager that allowed the booking of the trades this way, in the next cell. Accomplice to defraud the bank. And the internal auditor who did not reported this to BOD in the next for delinquence of duty to protect bank from fraudulent dealing practises. regards
Noted
Although i thought that as retail we are speculators.
Maybe we dont talk about the same because what is the difference between
freeze and liquidate the position and enter later.
I think it is more psychological (as a scout) maybe be i didnt understand you .
Have an excellent week Guys
Regards
Michael
Do not be victim to conflict of the General and Commander in you - by FTI
  • #45,588
  • Apr 6, 2014 10:47pm Apr 6, 2014 10:47pm
Quoting fti
{quote} Really Micheal? Let me tell you the truth. for retail traders is Freeze and raincheck?. for Professional dealers is actually FREEZE and JAILTIME. Because if any of my dealers did that. I would have him in JAIL under FRAUD charges. and the back ofice manager that allowed the booking of the trades this way, in the next cell. Accomplice to defraud the bank. And the internal auditor who did not reported this to BOD in the next for delinquence of duty to protect bank from fraudulent dealing practises. regards
Wow, I never knew this is part of fraudulent practise. Is that why oanda and us regulated retails disallow such practise?
  • #45,589
  • Apr 7, 2014 1:41am Apr 7, 2014 1:41am
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} Wow, I never knew this is part of fraudulent practise. Is that why oanda and us regulated retails disallow such practise?
you cannot tell when a crime is commited?
i guess it comes down to whether there was intent commit the crime.
sometimes peeps are being misguided and uncleverness and they commit the crime due to ignorance more than intent.
But that is no excuse for pros.


regards
  • #45,590
  • Apr 7, 2014 7:30am Apr 7, 2014 7:30am
Quoting fti
{quote} you cannot tell when a crime is commited? i guess it comes down to whether there was intent commit the crime. sometimes peeps are being misguided and uncleverness and they commit the crime due to ignorance more than intent. But that is no excuse for pros. regards
hi, fti,

ic,, any idea where i can get a list of such actions to avoid? would definitely do me good to be educated about map-practise in these areas.
  • #45,591
  • Apr 7, 2014 10:05am Apr 7, 2014 10:05am
Quoting fti
{quote} interesting. i remember read about this. his sons saw his loins. ya or was it a birdie with a twick? ai ya fti. what did you learned? naughty need pay for the sins? seems we just got back to that times. Humans are very clever deceive themselves. after water next will be fire. regards Here's a thought drive everyone crazy. if not for someone taught us use fire. what would be our diet like? so who taught us fire? which of that 200 fallen angels? everyone thinks the sun is a ball of fire. I not believe. if...

me learned my nature

Am I borne of pure good or pure evil?
If I am borne of pure good, why does the dark side able to tempt me?
If I am borne of pure evil, why do I seek salvation for my sins?
In my goodness, there is evil
In my evil-ness, there is good
In every 1 step of my evil, it takes me to walk 100 steps of goodness to repent
In every 1 steps of my goodness, there are 100 steps of external evil undoing my work

Is our ability to think the cause of our sins? What if we never gained the ability to think, will we still kill each other because of envy, greed, lust, gluttony, sloth, wrath and the worthless pride?

Or is it the circumstances that led our young mind to the dark side? That being said - an adult mind is equally easily tempted to the dark side.

I repent
THE ALL is MIND; The Universe is Mental
  • #45,592
  • Edited 11:13am Apr 7, 2014 10:45am | Edited 11:13am
Quoting Jacque
{quote} me learned my nature Am I borne of pure good or pure evil? If I am borne of pure good, why does the dark side able to tempt me? If I am borne of pure evil, why do I seek salvation for my sins? In my goodness, there is evil In my evil-ness, there is good In every 1 step of my evil, it takes me to walk 100 steps of goodness to repent In every 1 steps of my goodness, there are 100 steps of external evil undoing my work Is our ability to think the cause of our sins? What if we never gained the ability to think, will we still kill each other...
WOW.



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  • #45,593
  • Apr 7, 2014 11:42am Apr 7, 2014 11:42am
Quoting Jacque
{quote} me learned my nature Am I borne of pure good or pure evil? If I am borne of pure good, why does the dark side able to tempt me? If I am borne of pure evil, why do I seek salvation for my sins? In my goodness, there is evil In my evil-ness, there is good In every 1 step of my evil, it takes me to walk 100 steps of goodness to repent In every 1 steps of my goodness, there are 100 steps of external evil undoing my work Is our ability to think the cause of our sins? What if we never gained the ability to think, will we still kill each other...

ty and wow again

V
  • #45,594
  • Apr 7, 2014 12:18pm Apr 7, 2014 12:18pm
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  • #45,595
  • Edited 4:18pm Apr 7, 2014 1:12pm | Edited 4:18pm
Quoting FXBulld0g
Hi FTI and all. Have been reading the thread from the first post for the past month or so and am only on page 150 (July 2008). I did not want to skip ahead to the current pages, but I feel that where I am at in the thread is FTI really answering specific questions from traders - gone are coursework for the most part. Thank you for enhancing my understanding of many things. I have been paper trading for four months and set a target of winning 50 trades in a row before going live. I am probably a few months away, but I would like to start doing some...
as per requested in PM.

i didn't know there is time lag for newbie postings.
no wonder sometimes i miss posts.
I thought was my brain's inefficiency.

fxbulld0g
there are no good brokers or bad brokers.

brokers are there to facilitate your access to the markets.
In return they expect be remunerated for their services.
Like humans they all have different attributes.
Different characters so different personality conflicts.

Since you are very new to the markets.
I suggest you do very very small gain some experience.
There's very much to learn from markets and no one can really be ready.
We normally journey along a learning curve learn how manage things and what ways are dangerous.

So for such endevour, your best bet that I am privy to would be oanda.
They trade in minimum $1 and max 10 mio per price.
I not aware of any other brokers doing this rediculous trade sizes.
So maybe will be safer place for newbies start learn about markets.

Markets looks very harmless.
Don't believe that.

if you looking at other brokers.
look for those who are regulated by some financial regulatory body that you can access to, just in case have arbitration needs.
other than that you need find which is nearest to you that you may trust with your moneys. Like marraiges, these not need be permanant. But you must trust.
If you find you not like , just divorce. no alimonys to pay.no worry.

also always have money flows in and out of your account regularly, at least once a month, to know that the broker is ok.
can deposit 10 million and withdraw 9,999,999 just to be certain.

but bewary that some are not brokers, they fly by night crooks normally they have Introducing bloking. Is same a marraige agencies. They take fee introduce. but is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you get, neither do they.

regards

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oh 1 more thing.
remember that you trading retail.
so never get dilusion that you trading with the big boys.
trading with big boys minimum ticket is 2 million usd. per trade.
so never also expect VIP treatment.
  • #45,596
  • Apr 7, 2014 1:53pm Apr 7, 2014 1:53pm
Chief,

with respect ....whats your analysis of market right now...what my small experience i rather hit and run then thinking of attack ...i might hit and run both ways...may be i am becoming pig....

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  • #45,597
  • Edited 2:24pm Apr 7, 2014 1:56pm | Edited 2:24pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
Chief, with respect ....whats your analysis of market right now...what my small experience i rather hit and run then thinking of attack ...i might hit and run both ways...may be i am becoming pig.... V
you suppose be goodie goodie boy hor.
no break the bond. still trading?

anyway nothings happening. They trying retrace, but seems having one hell of a time trying.
spent whole day doing it. yet no going.

pig? welcome to slaughetr. hit and run both ways has name, Is called splitted trading.
normally can only mean 1 thingy.
is either markets doing nothing , or you doing too much.
This markettoday to me looks very constipated.
relax.
may get worst tom.

me insomnia again, butkeeping busy washing LP and cds.
only some. most of em still in sg.

regards

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  • #45,598
  • Apr 7, 2014 2:43pm Apr 7, 2014 2:43pm
Quoting fti
{quote} you suppose be goodie goodie boy hor. no break the bond. still trading? anyway nothings happening. They trying retrace, but seems having one hell of a time trying. spent whole day doing it. yet no going. pig? welcome to slaughetr. hit and run both ways has name, Is called splitted trading. normally can only mean 1 thingy. is either markets doing nothing , or you doing too much. This markettoday to me looks very constipated. relax. may get worst tom. me insomnia again, butkeeping busy washing LP and cds. only some....

i am ...still demo trade...that they cant sto p ....i hope to keep myself sharp then rather think on sidelines....

i think market not doing much...i know when ia m trying to do too much lol...this is not the case here...

V
  • #45,599
  • Edited 4:26pm Apr 7, 2014 4:12pm | Edited 4:26pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
{quote} i am ...still demo trade...that they cant sto p ....i hope to keep myself sharp then rather think on sidelines.... i think market not doing much...i know when ia m trying to do too much lol...this is not the case here... V
oh. noted.actually i no much feel. Just see they have hard time trying retrace.
Maybe need better than neutral figs, gets em usd long again.
This seems work by a single kid on his computer is some cold dungeon.
the crowd not seems trading. maybe all waiting for some nice retrace buy usd.
fig wise it seems coming.
cinnamon tea is lovely.
I go sack now.
goodnite.



regards
  • #45,600
  • Apr 7, 2014 5:15pm Apr 7, 2014 5:15pm
Quoting fti
{quote} oh. noted.actually i no much feel. Just see they have hard time trying retrace. Maybe need better than neutral figs, gets em usd long again. This seems work by a single kid on his computer is some cold dungeon. the crowd not seems trading. maybe all waiting for some nice retrace buy usd. fig wise it seems coming. cinnamon tea is lovely. I go sack now. goodnite. regards

Good night sleep chief....

V
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