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  • #45,101
  • Mar 12, 2014 9:55am Mar 12, 2014 9:55am
Quoting Jacque
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nope, these the masters.
every one's monitoring em.
masters are easy manage, is the invisibles that cuts.
Thid why is named long sword.

regards
  • #45,102
  • Mar 12, 2014 10:26am Mar 12, 2014 10:26am
Quoting Jacque
Hi CookieMonsta, the book: Pricing, Hedging and Trading Financial Instruments by Prof Alexander maybe of interest to you on your mentioned topic. Please note this is not marketing or advertising call. Regards
Hi Jacque,

Thanks for the recommendation, ill get the book to study it.
  • #45,103
  • Mar 12, 2014 10:51am Mar 12, 2014 10:51am
Quoting fti
{quote} Is this legal? the chap foreruns customers orders and electronically arbitrage scalps the fills. and he let the cat out of the bag? when the authorities is finished with him, only billionaire left will be his lawyers and the authorities.and maybe his exwife. regards

Well it worked for him I guess party is getting over so he is cashing out
  • #45,104
  • Mar 12, 2014 10:57am Mar 12, 2014 10:57am
Quoting fti
{quote} nope, these the masters. every one's monitoring em. masters are easy manage, is the invisibles that cuts. Thid why is named long sword. regards
Hi, fti,

are the subordinates the variables in the black scholes equation? Since it is managing these like perhaps the strike prices of combinations of calls and puts that let us create say a butterfly in the first place, which may imply that what we are really these variables that create the options price, while the greeks are like indicators to tell us if we are in an ok spot or not?
  • #45,105
  • Mar 12, 2014 1:08pm Mar 12, 2014 1:08pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
{quote} Well it worked for him I guess party is getting over so he is cashing out
whats done cannot be undone, my friend.
but it depends, no one got any evidence of wrong doing, so no fingers pointing lor.
peeps can say anythings they like.

regards
  • #45,106
  • Mar 12, 2014 1:09pm Mar 12, 2014 1:09pm
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} Hi, fti, are the subordinates the variables in the black scholes equation? Since it is managing these like perhaps the strike prices of combinations of calls and puts that let us create say a butterfly in the first place, which may imply that what we are really these variables that create the options price, while the greeks are like indicators to tell us if we are in an ok spot or not?
try listening.
read and comprehend, then think.
if foundation is weak, building on it doesn't make good.
seriously you only talking about what you know.
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
If one only seen 1 side of a coin.
keep looking at it from that side only makes one come to same conclusion.



regards
  • #45,107
  • Mar 12, 2014 1:42pm Mar 12, 2014 1:42pm
Quoting fti
{quote} whats done cannot be undone, my friend. but it depends, no one got any evidence of wrong doing, so no fingers pointing lor. peeps can say anythings they like. regards

yup...he enjoyed his multi million in this efficient market

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  • #45,108
  • Edited 2:10pm Mar 12, 2014 1:53pm | Edited 2:10pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
{quote} yup...he enjoyed his multi million in this efficient market V
is not anyone's fault.
if the structure of market making is up rooted from the core.
then surely otherniches will be created.
IT is had changed things in very fundemental way.
Arbitraging had always been tools traders used.
Only is not very palatable in my plate because i can see lots conflict of interest.
and forerunning customers orders i personally feel is not a good direction for industry to head .

But currents change , so new lobangs will open up.
Things will swirl around until the dust settles.
Change has a price.
Nothing new.

Surely someone spots an opportunity surely will milk it.
Thats what traders are born to do.
millionaires comes and they goes.
market goes on.
Pat pat the dust and is another trade day.

when wins go home kiss the gf.
when lose go home kicks the cat or puppy.

regards
  • #45,109
  • Mar 12, 2014 2:08pm Mar 12, 2014 2:08pm
Quoting fti
{quote} is not anyone's fault. if the structure of market making is up rooted from the core. then surely otherniches will be created. IT is had changed things in very fundamental way. Arbitraging had always been tools traders used. Only is not very palatable in my plate because i can see lots conflict of interest. and forerunning customers orders i personally feel is not a good direction for industry to head . But currents change , so new lobangs will open up. Things will swirl around until the dust settles. Change has a price. Nothing new. Surely...
yup just do your thing and keep on doing what u can do to the best....

btw i see what i learnt learning was work very hard all ur wife and u will become eventually rich and now i see this...

facebook...whatspp...snapchat all that and think seems like the rule of engagement has changed...

V
  • #45,110
  • Mar 12, 2014 2:14pm Mar 12, 2014 2:14pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
{quote} yup just do your thing and keep on doing what u can do to the best.... btw i see what i learnt learning was work very hard all ur wife and u will become eventually rich and now i see this... facebook...whatspp...snapchat all that and think seems like the rule of engagement has changed... V
world is changing everyday, but nothing so very new.
keep adjusting.
stay calm and carry on,,,,,,,hustling & shaffling.

do the hustle..... another song. husle and butsle.

They failed cross the threshold today, was interesting watch.
let see what the cat drags in tom.

Goodnite

regards
  • #45,111
  • Mar 12, 2014 2:25pm Mar 12, 2014 2:25pm
Quoting fti
{quote} world is changing everyday, but nothing so very new. keep adjusting. stay calm and carry on,,,,,,,hustling & shaffling. do the hustle..... another song. husle and butsle. They failed cross the threshold today, was interesting watch. let see what the cat drags in tom. Goodnite regards

Yes it is chief.....

btw can you believe...in audio...

we went from

Vinyl-> CD->MP3->CD->Vinyl....

and we said we have made quite a achievement in audio in last 50 years...one of the best speakers i ever heard had been

1957 quad aka quad 57........

talk about moving fwd and coming back again...

V
  • #45,112
  • Mar 12, 2014 5:44pm Mar 12, 2014 5:44pm
http://www.theguardian.com/business/...-4pm-less-risk


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  • #45,113
  • Edited 8:44pm Mar 12, 2014 8:28pm | Edited 8:44pm
Quoting fti
{quote} try listening. read and comprehend, then think. if foundation is weak, building on it doesn't make good. seriously you only talking about what you know. a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. If one only seen 1 side of a coin. keep looking at it from that side only makes...
Hi, fti, Sorry for my lack of knowledge, and thank you for the patience. Are we talking about the other instruments? Like spots, indices, options, forwards, futures, bonds and swaps?

Pardon me but my reason for approaching options as options segregated away from the rest of the system is that I want to see ifthis system is able to handle in a way being risk contained even against other instruments, as that means I can control the amount of degrees of freedom the methodology has. In this case I will know the maximum risk even before I partake any position and the variation of circumstances that require corrective actions, with the assumption I do not induce extra degree of freedom into the current approachAlso I am approaching from that I am extremely low capitalised, and can only have 1 account that is an options account, and no access to any other accounts in the other instruments. Lastly, there are factors in life that may invalidate me, I hope to induce rigidity into the system, as to become rigid against risk, such that in all cases even if I leave it alone, no matter how the market runs against me, I can account for them
This led me to study how to translate only options from 1 hedged state to another, in cycles, at the end of the day, they just revert into a Riskless situation. It's a very slow process but it's meant to take out variability while sacrificing the long sword, in favour of a more stable process, with very few degrees of freedom to account for, hence limiting the variations and unforeseen risk. I hate to gamble after all, so I try to create stable and lasting scenarios. Please tell me if I'm wrong anywhere.
  • #45,114
  • Mar 12, 2014 8:59pm Mar 12, 2014 8:59pm
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} Hi, fti, Sorry for my lack of knowledge, and thank you for the patience. Are we talking about the other instruments? Like spots, indices, options, forwards, futures, bonds and swaps? Pardon me but my reason for approaching options as options segregated away from the rest of the system is that I want to see ifthis system is able to handle in a way being risk contained even against other instruments, as that means I can control the amount of degrees of freedom the methodology has. In this case I will know the maximum risk even before I partake...

how many times u look around the road before u cross...and how u plan to cross road this one

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  • #45,115
  • Mar 12, 2014 9:21pm Mar 12, 2014 9:21pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
{quote} how many times u look around the road before u cross...and how u plan to cross road this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giMecOMCrsk V
Hi, indianguyinny24,I think everyone has their reasons for doing the things they do, it is their believe in their level of ability and what they know of at that point in time that helps them make an informed choice with respect to the knowledge they know. So if I don't think I can cross that road safely, I may not cross altogether, and stick to what I know within my abilities. If you do not know something even exist, how to even comprehend it? It is what that we do not know that we should handle with care and caution, Hence my deliberation
  • #45,116
  • Mar 12, 2014 10:46pm Mar 12, 2014 10:46pm
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} Hi, indianguyinny24,I think everyone has their reasons for doing the things they do, it is their believe in their level of ability and what they know of at that point in time that helps them make an informed choice with respect to the knowledge they know. So if I don't think I can cross that road safely, I may not cross altogether, and stick to what I know within my abilities. If you do not know something even exist, how to even comprehend it? It is what that we do not know that we should handle with care and caution, Hence my deliberation...
one advice

first cross the road as slowly as posibly...slow means time not walking slow....learn the crossing the road ....

else u want to control the outcome...knowing all the risk is first level of trying to control it?

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  • #45,117
  • Mar 12, 2014 11:03pm Mar 12, 2014 11:03pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
{quote} one advice first cross the road as slowly as posibly...slow means time not walking slow....learn the crossing the road .... else u want to control the outcome...knowing all the risk is first level of trying to control it? V
Hi, indianguyinny24,To me, it's a question of how much risk is acceptable, if possible how do I attempt to mitigate them, or is it even desirable? What I learnt from after trying out so many methods is nature will govern ur actions, hence I have to understand my nature, even if u give me a profitable method, if it does not suit me, it will just blow me out. Hence the mindset is the hardest of all to muster and that only comes with experience.
at the end of the day I may just walk away if it is not for me.
Hope you understand where I am coming from.
  • #45,118
  • Mar 12, 2014 11:21pm Mar 12, 2014 11:21pm
Quoting TheDDReport
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  • #45,119
  • Mar 12, 2014 11:21pm Mar 12, 2014 11:21pm
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} Hi, indianguyinny24,To me, it's a question of how much risk is acceptable, if possible how do I attempt to mitigate them, or is it even desirable? What I learnt from after trying out so many methods is nature will govern ur actions, hence I have to understand my nature, even if u give me a profitable method, if it does not suit me, it will just blow me out. Hence the mindset is the hardest of all to muster and that only comes with experience. at the end of the day I may just walk away if it is not for me. Hope you understand where I am coming...

understood...question have u read 200 pages yet??

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  • #45,120
  • Mar 12, 2014 11:27pm Mar 12, 2014 11:27pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
{quote} understood...question have u read 200 pages yet?? V
Hi, Yea, I read the 200 pages, but I did not follow everything there, as I had to account for what I found uncomfortable, for example the rescue, I find that I may revert to hope and that is very detrimental, that's why I changed it to suit myself better, in the end I only do attacks.
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