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  • #41
  • Edited 10:55am Feb 19, 2014 10:42am | Edited 10:55am
Thanks for the advice guys!! The logical way to go would be via books etc. when I first asked the question( believe you or not) I thought C# was a proprietary language just like MQ4. I was looking for something along the lines of the tutorial "Coders Guru" did for metatrader. Now that i know C# is a Microsoft stuff I will definitely try to get some books since they are usually widely available. I should have done some research first before posting the original question!!
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  • #42
  • Feb 19, 2014 11:17am Feb 19, 2014 11:17am
Quoting ForexOracle
Thanks for the advice guys!! The logical way to go would be via books etc. when I first asked the question( believe you or not) I thought C# was a proprietary language just like MQ4. I was looking for something along the lines of the tutorial "coders guru" did for metatrader. Now that i know C# is a Microsoft stuff I will definitely try to get some books since they are usually widely available. I should have done some research first before posting the original question!!
c# is not proprietary like mql4 but the api is. Let me give you an example. In c# you have a DateTime object that you should know how it works. However in ninjatrader for example, there is a Time array just like in mql4 but instead of returning an int, it returns a DateTime object. So yes the knowledge of microsoft c# will help you a ton but you still need to know how the specific platform works within the .net framework.
  • #43
  • Feb 19, 2014 11:43am Feb 19, 2014 11:43am
Quoting bfis108137
{quote} c# is not proprietary like mql4 but the api is. Let me give you an example. In c# you have a DateTime object that you should know how it works. However in ninjatrader for example, there is a Time array just like in mql4 but instead of returning an int, it returns a DateTime object. So yes the knowledge of microsoft c# will help you a ton but you still need to know how the specific platform works within the .net framework.
Got that...thank you! I'm not a programmer so if i have to start to get my feet wet it has to be via books. The little I know about MQ4 I learned reading the "Coders Guru" tutorial so...in the absence of something similar for C# , books are the best way.
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  • #44
  • Edited 8:33pm Feb 19, 2014 8:09pm | Edited 8:33pm
TIME STAMP February 20, 2014

ProTrader [PT3] Version 3.0.15
Date of build Version 14/2/2014




Current List of ProTrader BROKERS :

AK Bank FXFINPRO Capital Alior Bank CAPITAL4C Velocity Trade SkyonFX Sucden Financial



NOTE :
I didn't get the Information which ProTrader version they used. Please, ask to their Consumer Service first...




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  • #45
  • Edited 2:16am Feb 24, 2014 2:06am | Edited 2:16am
Hey... my Country mate

I found cTrader Office's in INDONESIA



cTrader Indonesia
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  • #46
  • Feb 24, 2014 7:53am Feb 24, 2014 7:53am
Quoting Tsar
TIME STAMP February 20, 2014 ProTrader [PT3] Version 3.0.15 Date of build Version 14/2/2014 Current List of ProTrader BROKERS : AK Bank FXFINPRO Capital Alior Bank CAPITAL4C Velocity Trade SkyonFX Sucden Financial
Polish ING Bank recently launced PT2. http://www.ingsecurities.pl/forex.xml

Quoting Tsar
NOTE : I didn't get the Information which ProTrader version they used.
Protrader 2. Protrader 3 will be on some (not named at the moment) AU broker which is in setup stage now.
  • #47
  • Feb 24, 2014 8:56am Feb 24, 2014 8:56am
Quoting SKovalyov
Protrader 2. Protrader 3 will be on some (not named at the moment) AU broker which is in setup stage now.

In addition to Australia Broker... is there any Info Brokers who will cooperate in Southeast Asia ?

Especially in my country Indonesia
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  • #48
  • Feb 25, 2014 4:08pm Feb 25, 2014 4:08pm
Too;

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...23#post7282323


http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...40#post7284140
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  • #49
  • Feb 27, 2014 2:32am Feb 27, 2014 2:32am
As I see it Protrader 3 has some big advantages compared to cTrader/cAlgo for algo trading;

Can compile mq4 build 509 files directly and use dll's (even MT4 can't do that anymore!).
Can import tick data from a CSV file (and if there is a limit on how much you can import I haven't found it yet).
Backtesting can be done using real tick data (not interpolated bars) with real spreads as they were at the time.
Walk forward analysis is included out of the box.
Backtesting multi-currency scripts (using tick data) is also supported!

Quoting SKovalyov
{quote}Protrader 3 will be on some (not named at the moment) AU broker which is in setup stage now.
I know you can't give away too much information, but can you give a ball park idea of how far away this might be - days, weeks, months, years? I am keen to start using Protrader, but don't really want to sign up with one of the existing PT2 brokers if an Australian (where I am based) PT3 broker is just around the corner.
  • #50
  • Feb 27, 2014 3:34am Feb 27, 2014 3:34am
Quoting Tsar
{quote} In addition to Australia Broker... is there any Info Brokers who will cooperate in Southeast Asia ? Especially in my country Indonesia
Some cooperation is being established with India broker. Do not know if it will make you happy. =)
  • #51
  • Feb 27, 2014 3:40am Feb 27, 2014 3:40am
Quoting skoda2008
I know you can't give away too much information, but can you give a ball park idea of how far away this might be - days, weeks, months, years? I am keen to start using Protrader, but don't really want to sign up with one of the existing PT2 brokers if an Australian (where I am based) PT3 broker is just around the corner.
By optimistic prognosis they are in just a couple a months before the launch.
  • #52
  • Edited 5:25am Feb 27, 2014 4:56am | Edited 5:25am
Quoting skoda2008
As I see it Protrader 3 has some big advantages compared to cTrader/cAlgo for algo trading; Can compile mq4 build 509 files directly and use dll's (even MT4 can't do that anymore!). Can import tick data from a CSV file (and if there is a limit on how much you can import I haven't found it yet). Backtesting can be done using real tick data (not interpolated bars) with real spreads as they were at the time. Walk forward analysis is included out of the box. Backtesting multi-currency scripts (using tick data) is also supported!

Another Value... from .cs file can be stored as .mq4 file
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  • #53
  • Edited 6:22am Feb 27, 2014 6:05am | Edited 6:22am
Quoting SKovalyov
{quote} Some cooperation is being established with India broker. Do not know if it will make you happy. =)

I really un-happy... even added Sadly !
Location of India distance is further than Australia, measured from my Country

My country in Northern from Australia and the nation's capital city is JAKARTA. Check it out, please...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia
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  • #54
  • Feb 27, 2014 7:02am Feb 27, 2014 7:02am
Quoting Tsar
{quote} I really un-happy... even added Sadly ! Location of India distance is further than Australia, measured from my Country My country in Northern from Australia and the nation's capital city is JAKARTA.
So, try to ask some Indonesia broker to consider Protrader and to contact sales at PFSOFT, then. =)
  • #55
  • Feb 27, 2014 12:07pm Feb 27, 2014 12:07pm
I've decided to migrate to cTrader. It is a difficult choice to make between it and ProTrader. But I think cTrader has a lot of upside and though my primary broker does not have it (yet) it sure seems brokers are becoming very receptive to it. Support seems excellent although support from ProTrader also good. I just am concerned they have been around for three years and have such a small broker following.
  • #56
  • Feb 27, 2014 9:29pm Feb 27, 2014 9:29pm
Quoting noteboom
I've decided to migrate to cTrader. It is a difficult choice to make between it and ProTrader. But I think cTrader has a lot of upside and though my primary broker does not have it (yet) it sure seems brokers are becoming very receptive to it. Support seems excellent although support from ProTrader also good. I just am concerned they have been around for three years and have such a small broker following.
I'm only guessing, but that may be because Protrader seem to be targeting more traditional bank type brokers offering forex, CFDs, stocks, etc (and therefore charging accordingly, while cTrader is just for forex and cheaper broker costs. I think cTrader may be a viable alternative once they have multicurrency tick data backtesting available.
  • #57
  • Feb 28, 2014 8:29am Feb 28, 2014 8:29am
Their forum is saying 'it is planned' but offering no ETA. Odd that it wasn't part of the package earlier. Seems many requesting it, so I'd guess a few months at the most. I also have a wishlist but for now quite impressed with both the platform itself and the cAlgo development environment.
  • #58
  • Mar 2, 2014 8:33am Mar 2, 2014 8:33am
TIME STAMP March 2, 2014

cTrader Version 1.17.34248
cAlgo Version 1.17.34248


Current List of cTrader BROKERS :

Sucden Financial FIBO group FxPro Pepperstone ThinkForex STO (SuperTradingOnline)

Liquid Markets RoboForex IC Markets Invast CommexFX Divisacapital WichWay

BostonPrimeFX TenkoFX TMS Brokers TradersWay AFX Capital MasterForex



List of ECN cTrader BROKERS :

FxPro ThinkForex WichWay TenkoFX TradersWay





UPDATE :

Liquid Markets and CommexFX NOT Listed cTrader Platform again...





Attention :
Before CHOOSE a Broker :nerd:
Check the first Credibility & make it sure have got Licenses & Regulation !
Always looking the GREAT, never left GOOD Point...
  • #59
  • Mar 2, 2014 11:36am Mar 2, 2014 11:36am
Does anyone know why LQD Markets gave up on cTrader - or cTrader gave up on LQD Markets?
  • #60
  • Mar 2, 2014 12:16pm Mar 2, 2014 12:16pm
Quoting noteboom
Does anyone know why LQD Markets gave up on cTrader - or cTrader gave up on LQD Markets?
I guess it is because of price policy (volume based fee; forex brokers do not like it) and lack of real mass interest from traders (because of no support for MQL4). You also can ask them: http://livechat.lqdmarkets.com/chat/...lqdmarkets.com
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