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  • #41
  • Feb 18, 2014 8:16am Feb 18, 2014 8:16am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} The very reason that the people who can post in the Genesis Matrix Trading thread is restricted, is because the thread needs to stay clean so that people who come in the weeks, months and years further on will see the same system all the way through. This is the way that people can learn to trade the system. If the system is in a constant state of change, then the newbies, like you, will have no chance of learning and the brokers will win again. 90% of the people who apply to post in the Genesis Matrix Trading thread are accepted. Currently...

I agree! It's like the way the Trading Made Simple thread is going. I was posting there referring my trades to the original strategy and entry rules, but got rolled over by traders who twisted the system and responded accordingly. Not so nice really.

So, good point.
  • #42
  • Feb 18, 2014 8:21am Feb 18, 2014 8:21am
Quoting Opemipo
RJ I occasionally come to real Genesis Thread bcause I m a swing trader I dont seem to passionately folow it. Pls does anyone know any link in Genesis Thread that talks abt swing trading using Genesis? You can post the link here or pm me to direct accordingly. Thanks!
IIRC there is someone in the Genesis thread that is trading the system on 4hr or daily charts. the system is sound, so I see no reason why it can not be used on longer time frames. However, I believe there are settings, like in the stochastics, that have been optimized for shorter time frames. You may need to spend some time developing settings that may be more in tune with swing time frames. Just my .02
  • #43
  • Feb 18, 2014 8:22am Feb 18, 2014 8:22am
Quoting panamamike
{quote} IIRC there is someone in the Genesis thread that is trading the system on 4hr or daily charts. the system is sound, so I see no reason why it can not be used on logner time frames. However, I believe there are settings, like in the stochastics, that have been optimized for shorter time frames. You may need to spend some time developing settings that may be more in tune with swing time frames. Just my .02
You can start that project !
Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil
  • #44
  • Feb 18, 2014 9:17am Feb 18, 2014 9:17am
I am interested ! Can you explain how are you trading !
  • #45
  • Edited 7:49pm Feb 18, 2014 6:33pm | Edited 7:49pm
P.S. No more questions about title, if you came here support, if not walk away! It is only one rule, which i will be strict about

As I already changed it! It is going to be a new system based on genesis and will be called Ginesis!
Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil
  • #46
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:20pm Feb 18, 2014 7:20pm
I will start posting charts from tomorrow. Today was a long day!

thx all for your pms and kind words! I will not give up on this thread!

As i said lets work together !
Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil
  • #47
  • Feb 19, 2014 12:20am Feb 19, 2014 12:20am
Quoting monocor
I will start posting charts from tomorrow. Today was a long day! thx all for your pms and kind words! I will not give up on this thread! As i said lets work together !
Yeah!!!!!!
  • #48
  • Feb 19, 2014 2:08am Feb 19, 2014 2:08am
Live trade. GU long 10 mins before LO. SL@BE.
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  • #49
  • Edited 2:42am Feb 19, 2014 2:28am | Edited 2:42am
Greetings monocor.

You are posting charts with the sonic r dragon, the genesis indies, and the thv indies.

I was wonder if you have any unique ideas to bring to the table?

I too think RJ and his team has earned the communal right for others to not poach the name of their system.

Are you going to just dig your heels in out pride, or are you going to do the right thing and give us something original, from you.

I mean that in the best possible way. Are you innovative, or are you simply clever?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #50
  • Feb 19, 2014 6:59am Feb 19, 2014 6:59am
We have been moved in to the journal !
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  • #51
  • Feb 19, 2014 7:05am Feb 19, 2014 7:05am
Quoting jmn5611
Greetings monocor. You are posting charts with the sonic r dragon, the genesis indies, and the thv indies. I was wonder if you have any unique ideas to bring to the table? I too think RJ and his team has earned the communal right for others to not poach the name of their system. Are you going to just dig your heels in out pride, or are you going to do the right thing and give us something original, from you. I mean that in the best possible way. Are you innovative, or are you simply clever?

I am not using THV idi, as trix is common indicator, which wasn't created in THV, it is matter of preference, you can use stoch or rsi, it doesn't have matter!
I had dragon on my charts, but I have removed it by the request, and now I have 34 EMA, which is dragon really are. I am using Templ from sonic, because of the volume, I like that indi, but again it is meter of preference, I can use any volume indi.
Genesis indies is for you guys, I will show you how you can confidence from this indies, and that is it.
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  • #52
  • Edited 7:24am Feb 19, 2014 7:06am | Edited 7:24am
Let start from the basic knowledge!
Stock market, futures, forex spot it is all the same kitchen. this markets has nothing to do with economic or any other subject , this markets was build to get money from ppl, like a casino! And all markets based on manipulations. You have seen this a lot, good news came out price has to go up but it falling like crazy!

I personally don't use fundamental analysis, i sugest you to do the same, I don't invest money for 3-4 years, and don't really care what will happen in a week. I am intro day trader my trades stay in the market from 20 min to 3-4 hours, and that is it.

For the beginning, Our goal is to follow manipulations, as time will pass, we are going to see that manipulations before they moving price.

Why Genesis, I don't really care about that system, that system will be used to give you a confidence in trading or just like a trigger, nothing more than that!

The most important is to understand with price and where it will go, and again it will happen as a time will pass.

So, for now, lets concentrate on the following the price!
Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil
  • #53
  • Feb 19, 2014 7:07am Feb 19, 2014 7:07am
Quoting Cold_W
Live trade. GU long 10 mins before LO. SL@BE. {image}
Nice trade, congrats !
Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil
  • #54
  • Feb 19, 2014 7:12am Feb 19, 2014 7:12am
Quoting monocor
{quote} Nice trade, congrats !
Thank you. Closed for +25 before major UK news.
  • #55
  • Feb 19, 2014 7:30am Feb 19, 2014 7:30am
Lets start from understanding, that forex is not a game it is your business, your opportunity!
Like in all other business you have to work hard, in order to get your profit!

So what we need, is the edge, the point where we get break even, we cover our expanses and what is about that point is our profit.

In order to get an edge, we need to be consistent, and understand our risk.

That is all for now, we will talk about this more but later !
Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil
  • #56
  • Feb 19, 2014 7:31am Feb 19, 2014 7:31am
Quoting Cold_W
{quote} Thank you. Closed for +25 before major UK news.
I was selling on that news, but got BE.
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  • #57
  • Feb 19, 2014 7:34am Feb 19, 2014 7:34am
This is my personal chart set up.
You can see here : EMA 34, trix, genesis tape and arrow, and volume. And the most important part is pivot levels (monthly, daily, weekly), round numbers (24, 50, 75, 100).
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  • #58
  • Feb 19, 2014 7:36am Feb 19, 2014 7:36am
Cold_W has his own chart set up, in the way he like it. As long as you can take profitable set ups you can change it in the way you want, as long as you have genesis in it for the trading !
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  • #59
  • Feb 19, 2014 7:46am Feb 19, 2014 7:46am
First of all your trades has to be base on confluence, it is can be one pivot, or set of levels daily pivot + monthly+weekly+ round number.

For me, I want to see volume is rising in the direction of my trade, it has to show power !

Here is the first chart from yesterday.

We have short term down trend, break of pivot, bearish flag ( to see a pattern in the diraction of you trade is a big big ++), EMA34 is in down move, trix crossed, i have volume increasing in a down move, and genesis trigert.
In this case simply follow the money and big traders on a down move!
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  • #60
  • Feb 19, 2014 7:50am Feb 19, 2014 7:50am
Lets move in to the next trade !
You have a second trade right away!
Double bottom (nice to see a a pattern in the direction of the move). Big big confluence : big round number, monthly, weekly pivot, daily R3. Trix crossed and the genesis setup as well.

Exit on the daily pivot

(in this case we don't have increased volume, but volume doped on the secon leg of W pattern, which is good, we don't have selling pressure)
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