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  • #21
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:27am Feb 18, 2014 7:27am
Quoting panamamike
I think the starter of the thread has every right to begin this thread. As he is not authorized to post in the original thread, and wishes to trade a variation of Genesis, I don't see what the problem is. To be fair, many are trading variations of the original Genesis methodology. If RJ has an issue with it, I don't think he will have any problem stating that for himself. He also said that if anyone wanted to post trades of a non standard form, to start their own thread. That is what the author has done.

I agree

Everyone can do what they want but he is angry at RJ and does not use the " Genesis Matrix" system but a variation of it.

Im sure RJ has a thick enough skin to not be bothered by people who try and wind people up like this but doesnt matter in the end.

People follow successful traders and their threads so this might become a great thread in future but if you bad mouth a trader and the thread they created that helped you to build a part of your system dont expect anybody to start respecting you here on FF especially if it is done in a back stabbing way.

Thats all it is really
We miss 100% of the shots we don't take
  • #22
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:28am Feb 18, 2014 7:28am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} The very reason that the people who can post in the Genesis Matrix Trading thread is restricted, is because the thread needs to stay clean so that people who come in the weeks, months and years further on will see the same system all the way through. This is the way that people can learn to trade the system. If the system is in a constant state of change, then the newbies, like you, will have no chance of learning and the brokers will win again. 90% of the people who apply to post in the Genesis Matrix Trading thread are accepted. Currently...
RJ can you please share your real charts and indicators which you are using for trading ?
As you said it is not genesis
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  • #23
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:30am Feb 18, 2014 7:30am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} The very reason that the people who can post in the Genesis Matrix Trading thread is restricted, is because the thread needs to stay clean so that people who come in the weeks, months and years further on will see the same system all the way through. This is the way that people can learn to trade the system. If the system is in a constant state of change, then the newbies, like you, will have no chance of learning and the brokers will win again. 90% of the people who apply to post in the Genesis Matrix Trading thread are accepted. Currently...

Is it better now
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  • #24
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:32am Feb 18, 2014 7:32am
Quoting monocor
{quote} RJ can you please share your real charts and indicators which you are using for trading ? As you said it is not genesis
All the charts I post which show real trades, and from time to time I post trades as they develop, ALL use the Genesis Matrix Trading templates which are available in Post #1
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #25
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:32am Feb 18, 2014 7:32am
Quoting Rooi
{quote} I agree Everyone can do what they want but he is angry at RJ and does not use the " Genesis Matrix" system but a variation of it. Im sure RJ has a thick enough skin to not be bothered by people who try and wind people up like this but doesnt matter in the end. People follow successful traders and their threads so this might become a great thread in future but if you bad mouth a trader and the thread they created that helped you to build a part of your system dont expect anybody to start respecting you here on FF especially if it is done...
I agree with your point. I think the title is a misnomer as I don't see a lot of genesis based within the first pic. Threads will come and go, and those without a solid basis will flame out faster than most. I personal applaud RJ for his thread, and its consistency, something that breaks down many good threads is the lack of consistency. My point is that RJ, as he has done, is more than capable of stating his objections. FOM does not need to try to police for him, especially given that she trades a non-standard variation herself.
  • #26
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:34am Feb 18, 2014 7:34am
Quoting monocor
{quote} Is it better now {image}
You are not trading the The Genesis Matrix Trading system. I have asked you nicely to change the name of your thread to something more suitable...not for me, but for the sake of the system and the newbies yet to come.

I'm sure you could come up with a less conflicting and more suitable name.

Thank you
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #27
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:34am Feb 18, 2014 7:34am
I am saying this last time!

This thread to help traders to sink in, and have the idea why and where do you open trades.

As I said, any charts and set ups are welcome!
Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil
  • #28
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:34am Feb 18, 2014 7:34am
Quoting monocor
{quote} Thank you, for understanding. Genesis system. I know that in the genesis thread there is standard for chart placing. But I know that most of traders using their own chart set ups, and even RJ using different charts and indies, but all posting only basic chart. I want to share charts, and explanation why do you open a trade. And any variations is welcome! Personally I moved from Stoch to Trix, and my entries based on the pivot and volume activity
This is a great approach and sound reasoning behind it all but put it in the first post and change the name of it and I for one would like to see the new ideas of all involved

Trading time for me now

Will check in later


GL

Rooi
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  • #29
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:37am Feb 18, 2014 7:37am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} You are not trading the The Genesis Matrix trading system. I have asked you nicely to change the name of your thread to something more suitable...not for me, but for the sake of the system and the newbies yet to come. I'm sure you could come up with a less conflicting and more suitable name. Thank you
I am agree with you RJ, and will change it, as soon as I find the new title. If you have any suggestion, please send me PM. And any one else who want to change a title, please send me pm with your ideas !

This thread will be about genesis but for the new traders, who want to learn !

Thank you for your help

Best regards !
Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil
  • #30
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:39am Feb 18, 2014 7:39am
Quoting monocor
{quote} I am agree with you RJ, and will change it, as soon as I find the new title. If you have any suggestion, please send me PM. And any one else who want to change a title, please send me pm with your ideas ! This thread will be about genesis but for the new traders, who want to learn ! Thank you for your help Best regards !
  • #31
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:41am Feb 18, 2014 7:41am
Quoting Cold_W
{quote} Besides Genesis indicators I use THVTrix, standart MACD and CCI Histogram. You can easily find Trix and CCI on FF. I like to see when all the indicators align and if M15 TF is agree I take the trade.
Pls can u put everything in a zip so that for us to access in a snap.
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  • #32
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:43am Feb 18, 2014 7:43am
Quoting Opemipo
{quote} Pls can u put everything in a zip so that for us to access in a snap.

Templ and indicators in that zip ?
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  • #33
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:47am Feb 18, 2014 7:47am
Quoting monocor
{quote} I am agree with you RJ, and will change it, as soon as I find the new title. If you have any suggestion, please send me PM. This thread will be about genesis but for the new traders, who want to learn !
There are people who have been accepted to the Genesis Matrix Trading thread, who have little experience in trading. Some of whom have done astonishingly well. others, who are on the current list are also very 'green', but they too will be accepted.

if you wish to use your thread to make another system using bits and pieces of the Genesis Matrix Trading system...great....you have my best wishes. Have a look at Rooi's thread......he is already doing something similar. But there is ONE thread (of more than 20,000 posts) that is an encyclopaedia on using the system.

It's simple....people apply to join the Genesis Matrix Trading system thread, and when we have time to look at all the applicants, we let them in. We keep control this way so that we don't get swamped with newbies all asking the same questions over and over again.

It's not about me, or ego, or anything like that. It is simply about one system, and one thread to teach that system by the people who have a combined wealth of experience in trading in general, and in the system in particular.

if you have an issue with me personally, then we can deal with that privately. You have never asked for permission to join the Genesis Matrix Trading system thread.....and that's a pity.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #34
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:55am Feb 18, 2014 7:55am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} There are people who have been accepted to the Genesis Matrix Trading thread, who have little experience in trading. Some of whom have done astonishingly well. others, who are on the current list are also very 'green', but they too will be accepted. if you wish to use your thread to make another system using bits and pieces of the Genesis Matrix Trading system...great....you have my best wishes. Have a look at Rooi's thread......he is already doing something similar. But there is ONE thread (of more than 20,000 posts) that is an encyclopaedia...
It is nothing to do about your ego or anything else. I have people who asked me about this thread. And that is it.

I am not going to argue, sorry it is what it is. Ppl asked about how to trade genesis, well here we go.

All what I ask about it is place your explanation with chart , and market view on the entry point !
Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil
  • #35
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:58am Feb 18, 2014 7:58am
Quoting monocor
{quote} It is nothing to do about your ego or anything else. I have people who asked me about this thread. And that is it. I am not going to argue, sorry it is what it is. Ppl asked about how to trade genesis, well here we go. All what I ask about it is place your explanation with chart , and market view on the entry point !
So are you saying that you are not going to change the thread name?
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #36
  • Feb 18, 2014 8:00am Feb 18, 2014 8:00am
Quoting monocor
{quote} It is nothing to do about your ego or anything else. I have people who asked me about this thread. And that is it. I am not going to argue, sorry it is what it is. Ppl asked about how to trade genesis, well here we go. All what I ask about it is place your explanation with chart , and market view on the entry point !
I'm curious, why would people be asking YOU how to trade Genesis???
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #37
  • Feb 18, 2014 8:02am Feb 18, 2014 8:02am
RJ
I occasionally come to real Genesis Thread bcause I m a swing trader I dont seem to passionately folow it. Pls does anyone know any link in Genesis Thread that talks abt swing trading using Genesis?
You can post the link here or pm me to direct accordingly.

Thanks!
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  • #38
  • Feb 18, 2014 8:13am Feb 18, 2014 8:13am
One more trade, right now in the progress +25 pips, I will explain the entry later.

P.S. I don't place trades trough Mt 4, my entry marked by vertical red line
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  • #39
  • Feb 18, 2014 8:13am Feb 18, 2014 8:13am
Quoting monocor
To stop this roaring, any one who doesn't want to take a part of this project will be removed from here! Best regards!
You have a PM
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  • #40
  • Feb 18, 2014 8:15am Feb 18, 2014 8:15am
Closed for +35 pips, at a weekly pivot !
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