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  • #441
  • Feb 13, 2014 5:04pm Feb 13, 2014 5:04pm
#property copyright "Copyright 2012, Deltabron - Paul Geirnaerdt"
#property link "http://www.deltabron.nl"

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  • #442
  • Feb 13, 2014 8:13pm Feb 13, 2014 8:13pm
Quoting Etecy
#property copyright "Copyright 2012, Deltabron - Paul Geirnaerdt" #property link "http://www.deltabron.nl" from Nanningbob thread {image} {file} {file} {file}

Etecy,

Thanks for the contribution.
My Currency Strength indie looks very similiar to that one (didn't check actual values).

G.
  • #443
  • Feb 13, 2014 8:15pm Feb 13, 2014 8:15pm
(Continued...) On our way to "double within a month" (or not...)

Starting over the Trade Explorer.
Too many significant bugs and lost days over the 600 build issues.

G.
  • #444
  • Feb 13, 2014 9:05pm Feb 13, 2014 9:05pm
Quoting MrPip
{quote} Doc-файл выглядит как код. С какой целью? Роберт {файл}

Hi, Robert!
It was simpler to me to copy a code in word and to translate. Then I placed translated text in a code. From here and mistakes.
Stas
  • #445
  • Feb 14, 2014 11:03pm Feb 14, 2014 11:03pm
Quoting emonts
{quote} Hi Jim, There are several rules for sure the most will be true but not all the time. A possible way to find out, i'm trying just now, is to work backwards. If you take your posted chart form GG on this page , just take a swing point. For sure you are in step 3 of the algo. Take from that point backwards the barstring for f.i. the last 20 bars. Test your own step 3 algo, you know for this situation, you must have an opposite bar prediction, otherwise you have to look at your algo. Now go one bar back, do the algo again, you must now have...
hi.
sorry for the late reply.
yes, i've been "backtesting" gg53's indicator for a long time, but still not found consistent mechanics.

has anyone got closer to the forexGT_arrow?

thanks,
  • #446
  • Feb 15, 2014 4:09am Feb 15, 2014 4:09am
Quoting jimsterk
{quote} hi. sorry for the late reply. yes, i've been "backtesting" gg53's indicator for a long time, but still not found consistent mechanics. has anyone got closer to the forexGT_arrow? thanks,
I am not sure of "Monty Hall" in "actual bar" and "next bar". Now , i am studying this steps.

burnssss
  • #447
  • Feb 15, 2014 4:49am Feb 15, 2014 4:49am
@ gg53
Monty hall applied to "actuall bar" has some variation from fractal pattern match?

Another question is, if "next bar" are you predict wrong, apply "Monty Hall" to "next bar" too?

Many thanks
  • #448
  • Feb 16, 2014 1:16am Feb 16, 2014 1:16am
hi burnssss,

im also struggling with "next bar in opposite direction".

set1, set2, set3, fractal pattern match, length match - these are explained many time.
but not sure about next bar prediction (with applying 3-doors).

once gg53 said:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7122404#post7122404
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7117915#post7117915

this seems that next bar in opposite direction is not as simple as i think.
and yes, if i backtest gg53's picture, forexgt_arrow shows many predictions with probability of less than 50%(according to my data).

gg53, could you explain more about next bar prediction?

thanks,
  • #449
  • Feb 16, 2014 11:19am Feb 16, 2014 11:19am
Quoting jimsterk
hi burnssss, im also struggling with "next bar in opposite direction". set1, set2, set3, fractal pattern match, length match - these are explained many time. but not sure about next bar prediction (with applying 3-doors). once gg53 said: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7122404#post7122404 http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7117915#post7117915 this seems that next bar in opposite direction is not as simple as i think. and yes, if i backtest gg53's picture, forexgt_arrow shows many predictions with probability...

jimsterk,

I don't know what more I can explain above what already written more than once...
If your predictions suggest lower probabilities for "Next Bar..." than either your probabilities calculations are different than mine or, more likely, your database is not the same as mine (updating and adding after wrong prediction - adaptability issue).

G.
  • #450
  • Edited 12:23pm Feb 16, 2014 11:39am | Edited 12:23pm
(Continued...) On our way to "double within a month" (or not...)

Oh, s...t - the 600 build of MT4 - what a mess...
I think it's about time to stop "enjoying" the "free" product with such a "customer un-friendly" approach and consider some other good, stable platform.

I think the guys at MT thinking that since they dominate the market and we invested time and money on indies and EA's written in MQ4 - they can do what they want - and no one will leave their platform, and adapt...

Many people have invested years in building and accumulating indicators, EA's, templates, strategies and methods - and without any permission they change all that just because they want us to "upgrade" to MT5 platform - a platform rejected by most traders and brokers.

This kind of company behavior is a slap on the face - and I'm not going to turn the other cheek.

I'm starting my search for new platform as of now.

G.
  • #451
  • Feb 16, 2014 8:50pm Feb 16, 2014 8:50pm
Hi G,

Would you please tell me the calculation/recalculation start points for each leg?

Thanks very much
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  • #452
  • Feb 16, 2014 9:54pm Feb 16, 2014 9:54pm
Quoting gg53
(Continued...) On our way to "double within a month" (or not...) Oh, s...t - the 600 build of MT4 - what a mess... I think it's about time to stop "enjoying" the "free" product with such a "customer un-friendly" approach and consider some other good, stable platform. I think the guys at MT thinking that since they dominate the market and we invested time and money on indies and EA's written in MQ4 - they can do what they want - and no one will leave their platform, and adapt... Many people have invested years in building and accumulating indicators,...

GG, they're doing some really good things over at "Zorro". I'd have a quick look there... http://www.zorro-trader.com/
  • #453
  • Feb 17, 2014 1:10am Feb 17, 2014 1:10am
Hello all,

GG for your alternative platform, you can go here for ProTarder V3 : http://pfsoft.com/

It's free, compatible MQL4 and in my view more powerfull than metacrap.
  • #454
  • Feb 17, 2014 2:46am Feb 17, 2014 2:46am
GG,

You should not take too negative the change of mt4, now we have a new mt4 and nothing is going to change, instead of being totally negative, look the positive side, we can now code very nice graphic displays.
  • #455
  • Feb 17, 2014 3:29am Feb 17, 2014 3:29am
Quoting LittleCaro
GG, You should not take too negative the change of mt4, now we have a new mt4 and nothing is going to change, instead of being totally negative, look the positive side, we can now code very nice graphic displays.
Yes as usual the cosmetics win against the technical ... Metaquotes knows perfectly how to deal in order to make the traders submissive.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #456
  • Feb 17, 2014 4:30am Feb 17, 2014 4:30am
Quoting gg53
{quote} jimsterk, I don't know what more I can explain above what already written more than once... If your predictions suggest lower probabilities for "Next Bar..." than either your probabilities calculations are different than mine or, more likely, your database is not the same as mine (updating and adding after wrong prediction - adaptability issue). G.
ok.
thank you, gg53.
  • #457
  • Feb 17, 2014 9:02am Feb 17, 2014 9:02am
Quoting LittleCaro
Hello all, GG for your alternative platform, you can go here for ProTarder V3 : http://pfsoft.com/ It's free, compatible MQL4 and in my view more powerfull than metacrap.
Yep, I really like the look of this, now all we need is the Brokers to wake up and offer it to us traders.
  • #458
  • Feb 17, 2014 1:43pm Feb 17, 2014 1:43pm
@gg53
I have a question and I would answer me because I'm a little busy.
When you make Monty Hall to actuall bar, you do it for the entire string of length 13?.
If you have the pattern [1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0]
but the market gives you [1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1]

Monty Hall then you apply over the entire string?

[0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0]
[0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 1]

[1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0]
[1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 1]
.
.
.

The fact is that many of these patterns do not appear in my database and therefore can not find such a pattern.
I just want to know if you use this way Monty Hall.

thank you very much
  • #459
  • Feb 20, 2014 3:12pm Feb 20, 2014 3:12pm
Quoting burnssss
@gg53 I have a question and I would answer me because I'm a little busy. When you make Monty Hall to actuall bar, you do it for the entire string of length 13?. If you have the pattern [1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0] but the market gives you [1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1] Monty Hall then you apply over the entire string? [0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0] [0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 1] [1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0] [1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 1] . . . The fact is that many of these patterns do not appear in my database and therefore can not find such a pattern. I just...

burnssss,

Monty Hall or "3 doors" question does not apply to bars - just FRACTALS.
The idea is to find a matching sequences that ends with "1" (as the market point).
You start searching by eliminating the first item in the string sequence (I explained elsewhere the logic behind it).
if that's doesn't fit, return the first item and eliminate the second one - and so on...

I never found a sequence that doesn't fit, using this method - but I wrote a procedure to continue "as is" if it doesn't find a matching new sequence.

G.
  • #460
  • Feb 20, 2014 3:36pm Feb 20, 2014 3:36pm
Hi gg53

I'm still scratching their heads and do not know how to use the information "actuall bar" and "next bar". Above all do not know the role that "actuall bar".
I was confused by the post of page 19.

"Relating to our "puzzle" -
We also have 3 options: use the current pattern, use longer pattern ending with "0", use longer pattern ending with "1".
We know our current pattern status and we know the other optional pattern probabilities.
Try to apply the above logic to "next bar" and "fractal pattern longer". Use the math that is clearly explained."

Another thing I wanted to say, what if once you have the system, you expect to be confirmed in such fractal M5 and M15?
these losses would occur?

I follow your every comment
Many thanks
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