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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited 3:23pm Feb 8, 2014 8:26am | Edited 3:23pm
Hello traders !
I´m normally very happy with my broker .
Have a great spread .. very fast orderexecution and I´m happy with the withdrawals .
So normally all fine !
But : I prefer long markets !
So the last weeks my traded pairs went south .. , of course a excellent trader will handle this .
But I never said I am a excellent trader .
In fact is I am very profitable with longs , but shorties costs money.
So I want to inverse my charts , when they go south ..
So I´m looking for a Broker with :
A quick order execution , regulated and not a simple LTD anywhere out of the jungle.
Tight spreads , working technics and no liquidity problems .
Normally all I have right now with mine ..
So , all I have ..the big difference is the trading pairs !
I need the following currencies :
EUR/USD + USD/EUR
GBP/USD + USD/GBP
USD/JPY + JPY/USD
EUR/JPY + JPY/EUR
EUR/CAD + CAD/EUR
GBP/CAD + CAD/GBP
It´s also possible to change the Tradingstation.
I use the Mt4 rigt now , but know also Ninja and some others .
I do not need any fancy indicators for my style so it should not be a problem .
I started a thread in the " Platform tech area " , because normally I just need a tool to inverse my charts .

The idea of this thread is to make all charts long before enter a trade.
If someone has a idea that helps , please let me know .
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #2
  • Feb 9, 2014 6:26pm Feb 9, 2014 6:26pm
Stand on your head and charts will be inverted
  • #3
  • Feb 9, 2014 6:50pm Feb 9, 2014 6:50pm
This is the funniest thread I've read in a looooooooong time. Tks!
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  • #4
  • Feb 9, 2014 6:53pm Feb 9, 2014 6:53pm
Wow!!!!What a great start to the week!!
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  • #5
  • Feb 9, 2014 6:54pm Feb 9, 2014 6:54pm
Quoting LizardGizzard
This is the funniest thread I've read in a looooooooong time. Tks!
LOL actually I think this is a legit issue. I 'think' I am better at shorting stuff but the p/l statement shows I have more profit from longs LOL.
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  • #6
  • Feb 9, 2014 10:37pm Feb 9, 2014 10:37pm
  •  Owl
  • | Joined Dec 2012 | Status: FX Siphoner Of Symphonies | 435 Posts
Sesam in the last thread you started and posted about this

same matter the fellow trader codemeister directed you to

a link in which there was a indy that did what you asked for.....

I'm assuming the indy you was led to wasn't what you was

looking for and for the record I personally never heard of such

a way to invert any currency pair for that matter......
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  • #7
  • Edited 3:39am Feb 10, 2014 3:18am | Edited 3:39am
Quoting Owl
Sesam in the last thread you started and posted about this same matter the fellow trader codemeister directed you to a link in which there was a indy that did what you asked for..... I'm assuming the indy you was led to wasn't what you was looking for and for the record I personally never heard of such a way to invert any currency pair for that matter......
Hey Owl .
The main thing is : I wasn´t looking for an indi .
I´m looking for technic that inverts my charts ..
I thought it is just a
" hook " anywhere in the Mt4 to unable and my charts , that I chose is possible to invert.
The main thing is , my trading style is active looking for a retrace in a trend , I trade touch trades .
That means I need a very quick execution , when the price touches a line .
That indi was not doing this.
In my " how to invert a chart " thread , a very nicew member gave me a link to a indi , that doesnot , what i am loooking for .
And I don´t think a indi is that what I´m looking for .

As simple as it is :
when my charts go south , I want to inverse them ( with a tool , with another pair called or just with another solution) .

So .. I´m still at the same place and if you have a helpful answer , I´d be happy .
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #8
  • Feb 10, 2014 3:20am Feb 10, 2014 3:20am
Quoting fxpivots
Stand on your head and charts will be inverted
Oh very stupid !
Then the price starts right and ends left ..:nerd:
May be you´re better thinking before posting ...
Thx!
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #9
  • Feb 10, 2014 4:22am Feb 10, 2014 4:22am
Strongly doubt you're going to find what you're looking for chart wise. Perhaps lenses that allow to see inverted images are the only solution available. Btw, I'm not joking. I'm pretty certain there are specialty lenses or other optical solution. It's a matter of doing some research.
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
  • #10
  • Edited 4:43am Feb 10, 2014 4:29am | Edited 4:43am
Quoting vox dei
Strongly doubt you're going to find what you're looking for chart wise. Perhaps lenses that allow to see inverted images are the only solution available. Btw, I'm not joking. I'm pretty certain there are specialty lenses or other optical solution. It's a matter of doing some research.
I´m really not sure if you´re kidding me ..
But let me say .. aah thanks, no !
I found on a old Exness account of myself the USDGBPcent ( Cable inverse ) and the same in USDEURcent ( E/U inverse)
so it´s a part of the solution ....
But I was not happy with Exness and I´m not sure if they are insured!
When I opened the accounts there , it was only a ltd , created in oversea and working from Russia.
They gave me a bad slippage and a tall spread during news .. and with tall I mean more than 20 pips and a lazy support.
That was unacceptable .
Other brokers , like that one I use now have a spread in the majors less than 2 pips during news.

I´m sure I will find a solution without wearing lenses , .. but thx so far ..
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #11
  • Feb 10, 2014 9:22am Feb 10, 2014 9:22am
Quoting Sesamstrasse
{quote} I´m really not sure if you´re kidding me .. But let me say .. aah thanks, no ! I found on a old Exness account of myself the USDGBPcent ( Cable inverse ) and the same in USDEURcent ( E/U inverse) so it´s a part of the solution .... But I was not happy with Exness and I´m not sure if they are insured! When I opened the accounts there , it was only a ltd , created in oversea and working from Russia. They gave me a bad slippage and a tall spread during news .. and with tall I mean more than 20 pips and a lazy support. That was unacceptable...
LOL OK (wasn't kidding but you made me laugh thanks)

Well, you can use Exness for charting and still trade with your current broker.
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
  • #12
  • Feb 10, 2014 9:52am Feb 10, 2014 9:52am
Just use a mirror!
  • #13
  • Feb 10, 2014 12:51pm Feb 10, 2014 12:51pm
Hi Sesamstrasse,

MBTrading allows you to invert the price scale on a chart.

If you just need it for analysis, you can always paste a screenshot of your chart in MS Paint and then vertically invert it. Your numbers will upside down but it has the effect of inverting the price structure the way you want.

I'm not sure why traders think this is particularly funny. It's an indisputable fact that all sorts of visual aspects of a chart will skew your perception in ways you may not be aware of.

The colors of your candle sticks can alter your perception as well (green = go, profit, good / red = stop, alarm, emergency, bad), along with whether a market is moving visually up or down, how a chart is scaled (linear vs. logarithmic), what indicators are on your chart, etc.
  • #14
  • Feb 10, 2014 1:20pm Feb 10, 2014 1:20pm
Quoting smittens4212
Hi Sesamstrasse, MBTrading allows you to invert the price scale on a chart. If you just need it for analysis, you can always paste a screenshot of your chart in MS Paint and then vertically invert it. Your numbers will upside down but it has the effect of inverting the price structure the way you want. I'm not sure why traders think this is particularly funny. It's an indisputable fact that all sorts of visual aspects of a chart will skew your perception in ways you may not be aware of. The colors of your candle sticks can alter your perception...
Thank you for that information .
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #15
  • Feb 10, 2014 3:12pm Feb 10, 2014 3:12pm
Search for overlaychart.mq4 indicator.

I occasionally take a look at inverted charts, here is EURUSD.

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  • #16
  • Mar 12, 2014 4:22am Mar 12, 2014 4:22am
Quoting ARTjoMS
Search for overlaychart.mq4 indicator. I occasionally take a look at inverted charts, here is EURUSD. {image}
Tried to find something that works .. without any success.. I´m sure a solution comes , when I don´t expect it ..
but thanks..
Guido
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #17
  • Mar 12, 2014 4:24am Mar 12, 2014 4:24am
Quoting smittens4212
Hi Sesamstrasse, MBTrading allows you to invert the price scale on a chart. If you just need it for analysis, you can always paste a screenshot of your chart in MS Paint and then vertically invert it. Your numbers will upside down but it has the effect of inverting the price structure the way you want. I'm not sure why traders think this is particularly funny. It's an indisputable fact that all sorts of visual aspects of a chart will skew your perception in ways you may not be aware of. The colors of your candle sticks can alter your perception...
Had an eye on it , but it´s not one of the brokers I like ..
I worked with 7 or 8 different brokers the last 6 years and I´m very picky ..
...but thanks
Guido
Risiko birgt immer auch die Chance.
  • #18
  • Last Post: Mar 12, 2014 6:06am Mar 12, 2014 6:06am
Try this.

Really useful for many reasons I suppose.

Just have two chart of the same pair.One with the indie and the other without.On the chart with the indie just use the line graph and set it black.Trade off the chart without the indie IMHO

All the best

Rooi
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