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  • #1
  • First Post: Feb 2, 2014 8:26am Feb 2, 2014 8:26am
Dear Fellow Traders from around the World,

My name is Peter Noppen, though some of you may know me as "Dutchie".
I am a small Forex trader (of nearly 50) from the Netherlands, who was "forced" into trading by serious health issues that made me end up in a "disability allowance" prison.

Since I'm a convinced optimist I live my life happily, not giving up on improving quality of life for me and my family & friends. I have been thinking (and experiencing) "giving" whether it be materially or spiritually has always been a great joy....

My plans are to make this world, our world, a better place by setting up a group of traders/investors that are willing to give (back) too. Willing to offer 1 to 10% of your profits to set up a fund.

Maybe you have other suggestions, but I would like to start with the homeless.

This before mentioned fund can be used for food, medical care, clothing and shelter, to begin with! The next stage could be we provide these people with homes, education (if desired), a computer and a trading course so they can learn to make their own income AND pay it forward!

We could set this up and start helping people where needed the most and work our way down form there.

What's needed to make this work?

- tons of enthusiastic traders willing to participate

- a think-tank for idea's, solving issues

- accountants

- networks, networks & networks

Anyone who would like to participate or come up with idea's please drop me a line at:

[email protected]

Call me a dreamer, but I am sure if we , traders, can make this work.... and I believe we can (!!), the world WILL be a better place.

Sincerely,

Peter Noppen
a.k.a. Dutchie
  • #2
  • Feb 3, 2014 2:10pm Feb 3, 2014 2:10pm
Hi Dutchie, kudos for the initiative. Reminds me "don't give fish, teach how to fish" idea. Keep us in the loop, will you?
forget about tomorrow, just steal away into the night
  • #3
  • Edited 7:56pm Feb 3, 2014 7:17pm | Edited 7:56pm
Hi Spekitox,

Though I'm not a big fan of vanity I'd like to thank you for the encouragement!
I will keep you posted...

Would you please help me spread the word... by sending this to at least two more
friends/traders and make this go "viral"?

Anybody can alter the message to their own stories and experiences and put her/his
own name under the message, as long as it gets across!

Warm Regards,

Namasté,

Peter a.k.a. Dutchie
  • #4
  • Feb 4, 2014 3:05pm Feb 4, 2014 3:05pm
Consider it done. Enjoy your evening.
Quoting Dutchie58
Would you please help me spread the word... by sending this to at least two more friends/traders and make this go viral? Anybody can alter the message to their own stories and experiences and put her/his own name under the message, as long as it gets across! Warm Regards, Namasté, Peter a.k.a. Dutchie
forget about tomorrow, just steal away into the night
  • #5
  • Feb 4, 2014 3:35pm Feb 4, 2014 3:35pm
Thanks Buddy. You too
  • #6
  • Edited 9:56am Feb 5, 2014 4:06am | Edited 9:56am
I posted this message on 5 trading forums and I am embarrassed to say Spekitox is the single one person who responded!
While it has been viewed OVER a 300 times all together!

This could mean 3 things:

a) Traders are a selfish people who couldn't care less
b) Traders do not believe in anything but profits for themselves
c) Traders or at least most of them are not capable of making a single dime

Since I do NOT believe in selfishness I want to set up a group of highly trained, profitable traders to help YOU help others by providing classes,
analyzing where you fail as atrader so we can make YOU profitable in order for YOU to contribute....

I'm giving this a week. When nobody responds (again) I will have to go on a much slower pace and do it my BLOODY SELF!

I WILL MAKE THIS WORK, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, so at least... Wish me Luck!!

Cheers

Be profitable and pay it forward, be helpful and MOST OF ALL: CARE!!!!
  • #7
  • Feb 5, 2014 6:50am Feb 5, 2014 6:50am
Quoting Dutchie58
I posted this message on 5 trading forums and I am embarrassed to say Spekitox is the single one person who responded! While it has been viewed OVER a 300 times all together! This could mean 3 things: a) Traders are a selfish people who couldn't care less b) Traders do not believe in anything but profits for themselves c) Traders or at least most of them are not capable of making a single dime Since I do NOT believe in selfishness I want to set up a group of highly trained, profitable traders to help YOU help others by providing classes, analyzing...
As a newbie i would be obliged if i would get a chance to be trained under professional to achieve trading success
you started an excellent initiative kudos.
  • #8
  • Feb 5, 2014 9:54am Feb 5, 2014 9:54am
Thank you very much newforex21, this really means a lot! Not just for me, but for my faith too...

I am in the proces of setting up lots of things simultanuously, so it will need some time.
But... in time we will provide you with solid education & one (or a couple) of failsafe templates.

I'm in the proces of creating a new Facebook Page to gather interested, enthusiastic people who
are truely willing to contribute. I will keep you posted on that.

I am a strong believer in "Giving & Paying it forward...", that's what this is all about.

If we can provide people (or traders, somehow they appear a different species) with a good trading plan,
all I kindly ask is to pay it forward, so not just you are reaping the benefits, but the ones in need just as well.

Cheers,

Peter
  • #9
  • Edited 11:27am Feb 5, 2014 10:36am | Edited 11:27am
I like the idea.

1% - 10% off profits is not too much at all to put aside for a fund that will not only help but hopefully empower people too.

I don't think people are intrinsically selfish except our environment enforces it, or if we're existing at the bottom of Abraham Maslow's famous hierarchy of needs.

The truth is most traders are not consistently profitable enough to commit to such a venture. At least that's the case for me. But, I applaud the intent and would be interested to see how this project develops. Keep us posted.
  • #10
  • Feb 5, 2014 11:57am Feb 5, 2014 11:57am
will be waiting with enthusiasm both to learn and get to the speed to be part of your help others initiative.Thanks a lot
  • #11
  • Edited Feb 6, 2014 6:39am Feb 5, 2014 12:51pm | Edited Feb 6, 2014 6:39am
Thanks people, this is truly heart warming! I will keep you posted as soon as there are any developments!

Namasté

Peter

Oh and a tiny PS:

Pay it forward, we can not have enough great people in this "Community in Progress"
  • #12
  • Feb 6, 2014 4:00am Feb 6, 2014 4:00am
Dutchie, give it more than just a week. Maybe the best traders are still away on hols, basking under the Caribbean sun. At least that's what I'd be doing if I was the ace trader, the Livermore of our times! LOL
Give it some more time. Finding the right people takes a lot of time. In fact, almost everything that's good takes an awful lot of time. You can't speed things up but you can find your ways of spending the time in a pleasant way.
forget about tomorrow, just steal away into the night
  • #13
  • Feb 6, 2014 6:50am Feb 6, 2014 6:50am
Thank you Spekitox, for your kind and encouraging words!

I can PROUDLY announce I received a private email form a person by the name of Kris Robson.
Kris promised me a more than generous percentage of his company's revenues for our fund!

Kris also offered to donate 500 GBP for setting up and hosting a website.

Can we have a HUGE thumbs up for Kris and pay it forward!

I am a happy man.

Cheers,
Namasté,

Peter
  • #14
  • Feb 6, 2014 7:24am Feb 6, 2014 7:24am
As they say every journey begins with a step,congrats for the first step taken.
Hope you go Miles and may your help reach out to the needy.
cheers!!!
  • #15
  • Feb 6, 2014 7:34am Feb 6, 2014 7:34am
Thank you newforex21, thank you!
  • #16
  • Feb 7, 2014 2:08pm Feb 7, 2014 2:08pm
Do tell me Squire, what makes you different from the average loser?

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/k...p-me-out-1.png
  • #17
  • Edited 6:00pm Feb 7, 2014 3:00pm | Edited 6:00pm
Quoting GDR3k
Do tell me Squire, what makes you different from the average loser? {image}
GDR3K, my Lord

Giving is my Joy... Fear to lose unknown!
  • #18
  • Edited 11:28pm Feb 7, 2014 10:27pm | Edited 11:28pm
Quoting Dutchie58
I posted this message on 5 trading forums and I am embarrassed to say Spekitox is the single one person who responded! While it has been viewed OVER a 300 times all together! This could mean 3 things:

1) Traders are a selfish people who couldn't care less
2) Traders do not believe in anything but profits for themselves
3) Traders or at least most of them are not capable of making a single dime...
Actually there's a 4th thing it could mean and here it is...

4) "Long time member" with barely 5 posts over 6 years (otherwise known as "no track record" suddenly drops in making a Big Splash (aka "spamming") on new threads with grandiose promises about how they will turn your Failure into Success... it's gonna all be different now... yada blah blah.

Ya wanna know why it's had 300 views and no replies.... cuz anyone that's been active here for any length of time has (sadly) seen it all far too many times before.

Quoting Twee;2401805[I
...despite the fact that his actions are very similar to the scammers that have preyed on The Factory in the past, such as aggressively collecting email addresses, aggressively promoting a chat room, claiming to be an experienced trader while having a very short history at FF, and keeping secret a critical part of the system, to name just a few... a build-and-run technique, which is when a member comes to FF to build a gathering of novice traders under the guise of being helpful, then once the following is big enough they begin charging a fee. This is the preferred method used by many ripoff-artists over the past couple years.
But hey, the way FF is goin these days, maybe the mods will let you stick a'rd for awhile instead of sending you to the Commercial Zone as they have so many others. If you're the ultimate magnanimous Real Deal, then more Power To Ya, tread carefully and pay it forward or any other direction you want (except into your pocket...).

On the other hand, if you're just another Troll jiggin' the line lookin for noobers to munch on, then to Hell with you and Good Riddance to ya sooner rather than later.

Am I cynical? You betcha. Do I (personally) believe you? Nope. Are you just another in a long line of predators ? I dunno, but I do know Time will tell, and the Commercial Zone is FULL of the proof of that. It's safe to say there'll be a number of senior members watching to see what happens here....

BTW... did you ever get that $2000 you were askin a few years ago on your first post at FF for your MT Predictor indi thingy ?
FUBAR...
  • #19
  • Edited 12:36pm Feb 8, 2014 5:33am | Edited 12:36pm
Quoting ak4x
{quote} Actually there's a 4th thing it could mean and here it is... 4) "Long time member" with barely 5 posts over 6 years (otherwise known as "no track record" suddenly drops in making a Big Splash (aka "spamming") on new threads with grandiose promises about how they will turn your Failure into Success... it's gonna all be different now... yada blah blah. Ya wanna know why it's had 300 views and no replies.... cuz anyone that's been active here for any length of time has (sadly) seen it all far too many times before. {quote} But hey,...
Dear ak4x,

I sense a little bitterness which, in fact, is sad. Allow me to help you overcome that...
drop me a note @ the email address.

Your concerns/cynicism are fully understandable, the only thing I'm after is to help, if only it were a tiny bit.
What I am NOT here to do is defend my intentions or to persuade non believers such as yourself.

Let's just wait and see how this evolves, "Time will tell" as you stated.

My strong believe is "good intentions can not lead to anything but good things..."

The mods are free to remove my post, there are other ways to reach my goal. It will only slow things down a tiny bit as well...
But I think THEY are amongst the few that DO understand, reason for this post to still be here.

So, If anybody feels I am "aggressively collecting email addresses, aggressively promoting a chat room, claiming to
be an experienced trader while having a very short history at FF" PLEASE report my post to the Moderators in order to have it removed!

Next: "claiming to be an experienced trader while having a very short history at FF" does not really make sense! As if a very short history at FF excludes being experienced! You have to agree with me on that, don't you?

I'll keep you posted

Warm Regards,

Namasté,

Peter

BTW... I didn't, but the creators generously refunded me since I was pretty ill at that time, which kept me from doing anything, including trading.
A double transplant and a couple of pneunomia's afterwards did the trick. I just don't like to tell sad stories...
  • #20
  • Feb 9, 2014 10:28pm Feb 9, 2014 10:28pm
Quoting Dutchie58
{quote} Dear ak4x, I sense a little bitterness which, in fact, is sad. Allow me to help you overcome that... drop me a note @ the email address. ..



Sense what you will, but I ain't bitter. I am however, very cynical like I said, for the reasons I said, so I'll hang on to that if it's all right with you (or even if it's not). No need to distract yourself from your agenda, whatever it is. I'm happy to park my cynical arse quietly on the sideline & see which way you tilt as time goes by.
FUBAR...
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