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  • #1,721
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:15pm Jan 16, 2014 1:15pm
Quoting seaman2
accepting what is in header of this thread exposes you to lifetime of substandard and non-sustainable trading results. let me explain why promise is : if price patterns is this and that then market structure is this and that & my action is this and that. Unfortunately this is also true if price patterns is this and that then many people will think is above option and ill be faked out by large player. TA cannot distinguish between these 2 options therefore lifetime of miserical results guaranteed.
I agree with what you say but I think you posted in wrong room, I believe the guys here are trying to actually make a forward projection and then be able to trade off it (I think) I do not think it is feasible but it is an interesting concept

and yes the market is not random but it does suffer from random things , CONTRADICTORY
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,722
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:18pm Jan 16, 2014 1:18pm
Quoting billytt
{quote} I agree with what you say but I think you posted in wrong room, I believe the guys here are trying to actually make a forward projection and then be able to trade off it (I think) I do not think it is feasible but it is an interesting concept

cant work long term. once enough money is in this idea robots will notice and include in their optimization process, meaning net loss strategy.
  • #1,723
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:23pm Jan 16, 2014 1:23pm
Quoting Rap Skallion
{quote} This looks to be the case. I think this type of relationship is trade-able. I for one will never trade against it. I have collect a group of 16 parent pairs that I use to check entries, etc. and have them on a chart in front of my screen with locations of the child and parent to guide me. When I am present, I will check them periodically ( during news events, Market opening times, etc.) If I see a move happening on one of the charts, a quick check of the parent pairs tells me whether to hop on for the ride. etc. Use wise money management...

that is interesting, I assume you can get into a trade early enough. and it is promising with regards to ratios of the child
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,724
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:27pm Jan 16, 2014 1:27pm
Quoting seaman2
{quote} cant work long term. once enough money is in this idea robots will notice and include in their optimization process, meaning net loss strategy.
nice one bud, except robots do not notice , they are dumber than a dead badger. I agree with you 100% if your using a robot/pc to programme, another robot will suss it out but it is between robots but the main threat is the person with a keyboard and independent thinking
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,725
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:31pm Jan 16, 2014 1:31pm
Quoting billytt
{quote} so you want to see some of my trades from yesterday and day before I also add, I was scalping and that is quite easy to do, I couldn't make a living doing it though
No, I do not want to see what you did yesterday. I want to see what you are doing now. Quid Pro Quo. I have a TE in place. For those who make claims, I only ask the same.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,726
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:32pm Jan 16, 2014 1:32pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} But you have been antagonistic and disparaged other ways of trading, just remember that before you go all high and mighty. This is a thread about weather or not, the markets are predictable or Random, not about who's trading profitably or not. You don't really trade either, you just run a EA which ultimately sooner or later will empty your account, which is why you re opened an account to hide the previously emptied account, right ??
Turv I think you are delusional. No joke.

Please provide evidence to your last post.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,727
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:37pm Jan 16, 2014 1:37pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Turv I think you are delusional. No joke. Please provide evidence to your last post.
Your guilty of all, get over it!!

Come back in 2years time, when your account is still going and positive without adding more funds.
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,728
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:40pm Jan 16, 2014 1:40pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} Your guilty of all, get over it!! Come back in 2years time, when your account is still going and positive without adding more funds.
So, another claim with no evidence or substance. Proof please.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,729
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:43pm Jan 16, 2014 1:43pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} No, I do not want to see what you did yesterday. I want to see what you are doing now. Quid Pro Quo. I have a TE in place. For those who make claims, I only ask the same.
trade explorer is for wannabee traders, I NO LONGER TRADE, for the last 3 days I have been scalping, scalping is relatively easy to do. I do not think I could of lived off scalping, I have been scalping at £1 a pip some time £3 after compounding, but I would never think about using large pip value. It is all about risk management and I am too trade hardened to know that it would be difficult for me to trade my way out of a scalp loss (or a few in a row).
I had a scarey time earlier today when us market opened but hey ho, trade well
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,730
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:46pm Jan 16, 2014 1:46pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} No, I do not want to see what you did yesterday. I want to see what you are doing now. Quid Pro Quo. I have a TE in place. For those who make claims, I only ask the same.
aha, yesterday I was actually saying in room what was happening before I traded them, go back and read my entries against time
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,731
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:46pm Jan 16, 2014 1:46pm
T, I thought that tree dweller would of made an appearance by now
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,732
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:48pm Jan 16, 2014 1:48pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} So, another claim with no evidence or substance. Proof please.

Yet your allowed to do this, without an issue!!

Next time, you say anything I want PROOF please, if no PROOF just shut up, your own rules!
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,733
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:55pm Jan 16, 2014 1:55pm
Quoting billytt
{quote} aha, yesterday I was actually saying in room what was happening before I traded them, go back and read my entries against time

Doesn't count not in a TE, then it wouldn't count as not consistent for 4.2Million years, then you'd just be trading noise as Smittens Said and for some reason, predicting noise ( how to define noise ? ) doesn't count cause it's noise, where as I'd say predicting noise proves it's not random.


It's not random, it's just too complicated for you to understand ( not you billy )
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,734
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:57pm Jan 16, 2014 1:57pm
Quoting billytt
{quote} trade explorer is for wannabee traders, I NO LONGER TRADE, for the last 3 days I have been scalping, scalping is relatively easy to do. I do not think I could of lived off scalping, I have been scalping at £1 a pip some time £3 after compounding, but I would never think about using large pip value. It is all about risk management and I am too trade hardened to know that it would be difficult for me to trade my way out of a scalp loss (or a few in a row). I had a scarey time earlier today when us market opened but hey ho, trade well
soooo, wannabe traders provide stats? Is that what you imply?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,735
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:58pm Jan 16, 2014 1:58pm
Quoting billytt
{quote} trade explorer is for wannabee traders, I NO LONGER TRADE, for the last 3 days I have been scalping, scalping is relatively easy to do. I do not think I could of lived off scalping, I have been scalping at £1 a pip some time £3 after compounding, but I would never think about using large pip value. It is all about risk management and I am too trade hardened to know that it would be difficult for me to trade my way out of a scalp loss (or a few in a row). I had a scarey time earlier today when us market opened but hey ho, trade well

I saw 1 trade, in the park with the brats on the phone, hmmm, went to logon to trade it, they wanted pushing on a wire slide, 5mins later checked and missed 40pips
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,736
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:58pm Jan 16, 2014 1:58pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} Doesn't count not in a TE, then it wouldn't count as not consistent for 4.2Million years, then you'd just be trading noise as Smittens Said and for some reason, predicting noise ( how to define noise ? ) doesn't count cause it's noise, where as I'd say predicting noise proves it's not random. It's not random, it's just too complicated for you to understand ( not you billy )
Claims without a shred of evidence. This is the opposite of science. No need to bold or underline. Just a fact.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,737
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:59pm Jan 16, 2014 1:59pm
I noticed all my tubs are full of daffodil shoots, spring is coming- that means I will be out of the house soon and not coming here again lol,
I am a bit like that guy in MISERY except I am not injured , just staying at home waiting for spring sun to arrive so I can go to beach and throw stones at gulls
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,738
  • Jan 16, 2014 1:59pm Jan 16, 2014 1:59pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} Yet your allowed to do this, without an issue!! Next time, you say anything I want PROOF please, if no PROOF just shut up, your own rules!
The proof is in my TE, which linked to a LIVE account. How about you??
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,739
  • Jan 16, 2014 2:00pm Jan 16, 2014 2:00pm
Anyway had enough of this BS haven't got the time to waste on fools, enjoy going around in circles!!


Billy feel free to say Hi in my journal ever sir and keep at em!!
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,740
  • Jan 16, 2014 2:10pm Jan 16, 2014 2:10pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} soooo, wannabe traders provide stats? Is that what you imply?
no bud, it is rare that I have looked at any ones TE, normally they are using pretend money so it doesn't really count.
I traded inside bars - open range breakout- levels , I had stats going back to 2000 and any none trader keep quiet that my stats never went back further, The previous stats had to be gathered manually but my system didn't recognise them. The stats helped me gauge the probability of my trade being good.
If I had a TE yesterday, I would of made a massive amount of pretend money, its all bollox. in reality I traded £1 just to show anyone in here that I actually traded. be good

oops I forgot, I also compounded a lot
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
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