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  • #1,541
  • Jan 10, 2014 7:37pm Jan 10, 2014 7:37pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} The definition of system here is being grossly abused... THERE is NO system. {quote}

METHOD, not all Method's have to be / Can Be programmable, yes your only interesting in EA based methods, I'm not, I have ZERO interest in them, I do not believe 1 will work long term.


See, difference of opinion, doesn't mean I'm right, but it's my opinion the same as yours is your opinion, which also doesn't mean your right!!


Got it ??
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,542
  • Jan 10, 2014 7:40pm Jan 10, 2014 7:40pm
Quoting Turveyd
You have not cracked Nedging long term correct ?? you may never ?? but your willing to post your theories as if there already cracked, are you yourself not talking BS until such time as you crack it ?? YES, so hypocrit much there ?? Sorry if I wrongly called you a scammer, I did check your thread, I see that donation money was never being seen by you, just the proof of a donation made, but you have to admit you do sound like a scammer!! So keep your opinion to yourself, I haven't bashed your method, stay away from mine as we shall see!! Shouldn't...
Now, firstly...you still don't have an idea of what Nedging actually is, but coin the term, as though you defined it...remember son, it was I that had to explain it to you. Because you haven't fully taken on the concept of what nedging actually is, leads you to believe that my system nedges...It takes trades based on a DEFINED SYSTEM, and grid averages in the direction of the previous trades. This isn't nedging.

Have I cracked it? Yes. I have.

To the extent that I want to?

No. Thus the reason for a more systematic approach this year.

I don't sound like a scammer...to anybody with the ability to reason. Only you. I have and will continue to post that I have absolutely no interest in managing accounts. I don't need to. I continue to do so, because I continue to get requests. I don't sell my time writing code, nor do I whore out my abilities, for the simple reason, that I would be overstating in saying that I have a basic understanding of code. I don't know it, but I can work with it. This too, I have stated several times over.

Past all of this, I am one fuck of a trader. I have used these tools to help me understand market in ways you and most others, never will. This isn't to brag, it is a simple fact. I can not only predict market to a certain extent, I can also suss out theories that will never stand a chance. If you walked a mile in my shoes, you'd get it...but you won't, so you can't.

Quoting Turveyd
Shouldn't of threw your toys out of your pram and went on troll should you!!
I have absolutely no idea of what you are trying to say here...my only response...

Go home turvey, you're drunk!
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  • #1,543
  • Jan 10, 2014 7:44pm Jan 10, 2014 7:44pm
Quoting nubcake
{quote} Until people put him on ignore and he gets locked-out of most threads then he will only continue, and billy will follow him along. As much as I feel like it's just some kid on school holidays I can't imagine a kid this dumb and persistent to spam shit for so very fucking long and for so many years consistently. There is definitely mental illness involved here. I don't even bother unhiding his posts anymore. It's all the same shit over and over.
Oi. Who rattled your cage. Everyone check my history re turveyd. I shall not reply again as I wont waste my breathe time energy nor be drawn into your fetish. You may trade or you may of retired like moi. Grow up. Now get back in your tree. To every one else hope your good.
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,544
  • Jan 10, 2014 7:48pm Jan 10, 2014 7:48pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Now, firstly...you still don't have an idea of what Nedging actually is, but coin the term, as though you defined it...remember son, it was I that had to explain it to you. Because you haven't fully taken on the concept of what nedging actually is, leads you to believe that my system nedges...It takes trades based on a DEFINED SYSTEM, and grid averages in the direction of the previous trades. This isn't nedging. Have I cracked it? Yes. I have. To the extent that I want to? No. Thus the reason for a more systematic approach this year. I don't...

Did I miss, where this proof is cause you'd expect you to be rubbing it in my face, and yet no, sounds to me like theories and a work in progress.

I only have a basic understanding of Nedging, but like you I've been around long enough to see methods which will and won't work, I've watched people try the same shite and fail to many times put it that way.

I'm not as close minded as you, far far far far far from I'm very happy to say.



Also don't drink, as said F ALL Sleep and it's 1:45am, so I'm outta there.

Leave me alone, keep your opinion to yourself and wait and see comes to mind!! Also feel free to prove your side, or atleast your progress if your still a works in progress.
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,545
  • Jan 10, 2014 7:50pm Jan 10, 2014 7:50pm
Quoting billytt
{quote} Oi. Who rattled your cage. Everyone check my history re turveyd. I shall not reply again as I wont waste my breathe time energy nor be drawn into your fetish. You may trade or you may of retired like moi. Grow up. Now get back in your tree. To every one else hope your good.

He's 1 nasty angry piece of work , you'd really think they'd of banned him years ago, swearing and ranting over all boards, but claims that about me LOL


Take it easy dude, tis the weekend!!
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,546
  • Jan 10, 2014 7:51pm Jan 10, 2014 7:51pm
Magix. You mentioned your grid method I think using 10 pip levels. Have you tried different measure of pip level that way they can carry over weekend. I wasnt actually gridding but went off 100 pip level. It made me more at peace lol
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,547
  • Jan 10, 2014 7:58pm Jan 10, 2014 7:58pm
T I am still out. Was training some guys In extraction using dinghy and bad weather. And typing on this phone
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,548
  • Jan 10, 2014 8:00pm Jan 10, 2014 8:00pm
Quoting billytt
T I am still out. Was training some guys In extraction using dinghy and bad weather. And typing on this phone
Feel free to drop into my troll free journal any time for a chat old chap!!



Not a lot of water around here to require such skills, I do Kayak, Scuba dive and Free Dive though
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,549
  • Jan 10, 2014 8:02pm Jan 10, 2014 8:02pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} Did I miss, where this proof is cause you'd expect you to be rubbing it in my face, and yet no, sounds to me like theories and a work in progress. I only have a basic understanding of Nedging, but like you I've been around long enough to see methods which will and won't work, I've watched people try the same shite and fail to many times put it that way. I'm not as close minded as you, far far far far far from I'm very happy to say. Also don't drink, as said F ALL Sleep and it's 1:45am, so I'm outta there. Leave me alone, keep your opinion...
Yeah...

You missed the proof....

And continue to do so.

Check out the links I have posted to trade explorers and myfxbook links. I cannot post somebody elses account, but will state, with my word...that a single trader has gained over $28,000 in a single year, using my methods. Believe what you want, seems to be a trend.

My proof isn't for your specific value, it is for those who are interested in learning the same principles of trading. Much like all of the threads I have opened and much like all of the traders I have taken the time to work with on a one on one basis...

Again, believe what you want...it's of no relevance.

My mind is open, and I have asked you for the criteria behind your logic to code and test...fuck, who wouldn't want to have something auto trade the same way...but you cannot define your own methodology, ergo, you still have 2 hands full of fuck all.

Statically speaking, you have nothing, by way of trading...

I can post absolutes on your rants and raves here in this thread as well as your success and failures throughout your 7 lost years at FF and in the forex markets, this you have well documented....I can't provide any information on something that cannot be forward tested...

It isn't a tug o war, nor a popularity contest here Turv....I joined into this conversation to not only express my views, but learn from others who differ...

Your views are:
Everybody who disagrees with you is a troll.
That you have a higher IQ than everybody.
You have a system, without a conceptual idea of what defines a system.
That you will one day benefit more from your time here, than will to actual market.

You'd do better to just simply not respond to me, and never use my nick in future posts than would to continue on. I not only have the mind to crush you, but can actually provide the tools to prove you wrong in your every claim about your outlook on market.

So...let this be your last tear soaked night..

And

Fuck off.

DO NOT MENTION my nick in another post and you will never have to respond to me again. Continue on, and you will not only prove yourself as a troll, but continue to be humiliated by not only your words, but the fact that I can crush you under your claims.
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  • #1,550
  • Jan 10, 2014 8:07pm Jan 10, 2014 8:07pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Yeah... You missed the proof.... And continue to do so. Check out the links I have posted to trade explorers and myfxbook links. I cannot post somebody elses account, but will state, with my word...that a single trader has gained over $28,000 in a single year, using my methods. Believe what you want, seems to be a trend. My proof isn't for your specific value, it is for those who are interested in learning the same principles of trading. Much like all of the threads I have opened and much like all of the traders I have taken the time to...

My method, is definable, I have 3 methods in use at the same time, which all work together, but you won't get / see that will you.


Can't say I didn't reason with you, you a 100% complete ASSHOLE aren't you Magix.


I will leave you alone 100% if you leave me alone 100%, deal done ??


p,s, although I can't prove it, I still think your a scammer and all this is to attract more investors, if anyone is considering making him an offer he can't refuse, don't!! Or do, it's your money!
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,551
  • Jan 10, 2014 8:11pm Jan 10, 2014 8:11pm
I cannot believe it but approx 90 viewers. They sadder than me lol. Unless they were waiting for my arrival
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,552
  • Jan 10, 2014 8:15pm Jan 10, 2014 8:15pm
Quoting billytt
Magix. You mentioned your grid method I think using 10 pip levels. Have you tried different measure of pip level that way they can carry over weekend. I wasnt actually gridding but went off 100 pip level. It made me more at peace lol
Billy...

I don't actually use a 10 pip grid step. I use 10 pips as a minimum qualifier for a subsequent trigger and require the actual logic of the primary trade plus the grid step to be present for additional and cost averaged trades.

This is a single methodology that can be applied to the Auto trader logic I work with.

Take the types of logic applied to standard methodology as applied to automated traders:
They will Trade directionally and hold until:
A counter trigger.
A defined Stop loss or Take Profit is hit.
They will Grid Trade taking profit on a pre-defined grid and take profit or stop loss as defined.
The will take basket trades in both directions and either cost average or add until a predefined basket amount is achieved.

The logic I work with is a combination of all, in that:
They take trades on a predefined criteria.
They take a minimum Step before allowing a subsequent trade, allowing for dynamic ranges.
They will close all on profit or if defined allow a trailing profit and close only those in profit.
They can be adjusted for dynamic profit ranges based on counter triggers or net equity basket gains.
They will trade by or unidirectionally as the user defines.

Setting a standard grid, and if was applied to a single trigger and especially if traded off of the M1 charts, gives nothing more than a random chance. With the logic I play with, it allows for the broken clock to be correct 2x per day and allow prosperity based on this, as well as working with an actual working clock.

Really, the swiss army knife of traders in that there is a simple enough logic for trades and with the simplicity of the ideas behind the trader can be customized to work for all that have the ability to understand the logic.

100 pips, really, it is a slow inevitable death.
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  • #1,553
  • Jan 10, 2014 8:20pm Jan 10, 2014 8:20pm
T you mentioned having 3 methods.some times if I had an inside bar with open range breakout and level plus stats.I would up the stakes. Lesson to all
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,554
  • Jan 10, 2014 8:21pm Jan 10, 2014 8:21pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} My method, is definable, I have 3 methods in use at the same time, which all work together, but you won't get / see that will you. Can't say I didn't reason with you, you a 100% complete ASSHOLE aren't you Magix. I will leave you alone 100% if you leave me alone 100%, deal done ?? p,s, although I can't prove it, I still think your a scammer and all this is to attract more investors, if anyone is considering making him an offer he can't refuse, don't!! Or do, it's your money!
1. 3 methods can be coded into a single EA.
2. Yes, I am an asshole...never claimed I wasn't.
3. You had the option to leave me out of this thread and conversation when I offered you this exact thing. Never mention my name again...you took another route, so guess what? Consequences.
4. I don't give a shit if you think I am a scammer or not. I can have a 7 figure account at 16% on net, opened up to me for managing again tomorrow if I want, I don't...so please if anybody that hasn't got Turvy on ignore reads this, do not send me a private message...I can't keep up with the ones I already have. And...the answer is NO, I am not interested.
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  • #1,555
  • Jan 10, 2014 8:23pm Jan 10, 2014 8:23pm
Quoting billytt
T you mentioned having 3 methods.some times if I had an inside bar with open range breakout and level plus stats.I would up the stakes. Lesson to all

Not that kinda methods, 1 pure fast momentum, 1 medium range and momentum and 1 slower range and momentum ( 9sma, 21sma, 120sma )
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,556
  • Jan 10, 2014 8:27pm Jan 10, 2014 8:27pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} 1. 3 methods can be coded into a single EA. 2. Yes, I am an asshole...never claimed I wasn't. 3. You had the option to leave me out of this thread and conversation when I offered you this exact thing. Never mention my name again...you took another route, so guess what? Consequences. 4. I don't give a shit if you think I am a scammer or not. I can have a 7 figure account at 16% on net, opened up to me for managing again tomorrow if I want, I don't...so please if anybody that hasn't got Turvy on ignore reads this, do not send me a private...
1. Can't teach an EA to think, I'm a programmer, but coding a EA would be too much like my day job for my likings.

2. Totally!

3. proberley didn't bother to read it, grow up!

4. Notice the word " AGAIN ", you've traded other peoples money before then LOL
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,557
  • Jan 10, 2014 8:34pm Jan 10, 2014 8:34pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Billy... I don't actually use a 10 pip grid step. I use 10 pips as a minimum qualifier for a subsequent trigger and require the actual logic of the primary trade plus the grid step to be present for additional and cost averaged trades. This is a single methodology that can be applied to the Auto trader logic I work with. Take the types of logic applied to standard methodology as applied to automated traders: They will Trade directionally and hold until: A counter trigger. A defined Stop loss or Take Profit is hit. They will Grid Trade taking...
Thanks for that. I did mention grid like regarding me but using a 100 pip range changed the perspective. Not every day was a trade day and like I said it had similarities to grid but it was mainly getting in when the big boys started the move. Trade well
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,558
  • Jan 10, 2014 8:42pm Jan 10, 2014 8:42pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} 1. Can't teach an EA to think, I'm a programmer, but coding a EA would be too much like my day job for my likings. 2. Totally! 3. proberley didn't bother to read it, grow up! 4. Notice the word " AGAIN ", you've traded other peoples money before then LOL

1. Yes you can.
2. Nuff Said.
3. Much like a lot of "information", you re-act prior to actually reading.
4. It isn't a rule here to not trade managed accounts, and I quit managing when I got sick. Doesn't mean that I am looking for investors, nor that I am scamming, just means that I used to manage accounts.
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  • #1,559
  • Jan 10, 2014 8:51pm Jan 10, 2014 8:51pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} 1. Yes you can. 2. Nuff Said. 3. Much like a lot of "information", you re-act prior to actually reading. 4. It isn't a rule here to not trade managed accounts, and I quit managing when I got sick. Doesn't mean that I am looking for investors, nor that I am scamming, just means that I used to manage accounts. {image}
1. no you can't, AI will NEVER happen in our life times, if ever, so right there is BULLSHIT!! especially with MT4, it can merely follow basic rules, this is not THINKING!!

3. I don't read all your posts like, mine are to you, have little interest to me, they where not on topic and contained zero Stat's, which is why I'm here, I like Math's and Stat's, it's the field I work in programming wise.

4. fair enough, Managing is fine with me anyway, although I wouldn't take 1 on, too much stress for my likings.



Good night!!
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,560
  • Jan 10, 2014 9:03pm Jan 10, 2014 9:03pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} 1. no you can't, AI will NEVER happen in our life times, if ever, so right there is BULLSHIT!! especially with MT4, it can merely follow basic rules, this is not THINKING!! 3. I don't read all your posts like, mine are to you, have little interest to me, they where not on topic and contained zero Stat's, which is why I'm here, I like Math's and Stat's, it's the field I work in programming wise. 4. fair enough, Managing is fine with me anyway, although I wouldn't take 1 on, too much stress for my likings. Good night!!
1. It can be done...you cannot conceptualize because you have zero market understanding.
2. I have and continue to provide stats...but because you have claimed to have not read my posts, you don't even realize this. I don't follow your posts, if you never mentioned my nick, again, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
3. Yes. Trading OPM is stressful, in the beginning. There is a definite mindset to taking your first standard lot trade if you've never traded a standard lot, but then it becomes like any other job...somebody else busting your nuts and taking your time when it could actually be more to benefit than a conversation...and on this...who the fuck would be stupid enough to afford you $10 to trade for them. You are not only unproven in your claims, but your claims aren't altogether that impressive and anybody with market sense, could actually see that you lack the same. 1 trade in 3 weeks? How many posts? You are more likely to earn a paycheck for trolling than you would ever be to trading. Exception to this is, you can't actually do that very well either.

Go tear soak a pillow.

Again...
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