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  • #61
  • Jan 6, 2014 7:59pm Jan 6, 2014 7:59pm
Just a little update...

Oversold on Stochs, simple pattern recognition applied to the M1 charts....

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  • #62
  • Jan 6, 2014 10:02pm Jan 6, 2014 10:02pm
Quoting emonts
{quote} Hi smallcat, I did try your indicators and other stuff to generate the raw data. In the .csv file the last 4 columns are bar, fractal, leg index and leg direction. Can it be that the leg value should be inverted. When the leg goes up, the last column should be one's. For instance the last leg of 2012 goes up and in the .csv file the last column I see all zero's Best regards
Hi emonts,

You're right, thank you. The updated version can be found on post #1.

Thanks
-smallcat
  • #63
  • Jan 7, 2014 12:32am Jan 7, 2014 12:32am
Quoting smallcat
{quote} Hi emonts, You're right, thank you. The updated version can be found on post #1. Thanks -smallcat
smallcat,

Already stated on post #62...
Every change/update in the index on post #1 is posted immediatly on the forum.

G.
  • #64
  • Jan 7, 2014 2:17am Jan 7, 2014 2:17am
Quoting gg53
{quote} smallcat, Already stated on post #62... Every change/update in the index on post #1 is posted immediatly on the forum. G.
Oups, sorry. Thank you G.
-smallcat
  • #65
  • Jan 7, 2014 4:47am Jan 7, 2014 4:47am
Quoting Magix
Just a little update... Oversold on Stochs, simple pattern recognition applied to the M1 charts.... {image}
Magix,

Nice, I like the DrawDown figure.
I'm a big fan of strategies with small DD.

G.
  • #66
  • Jan 7, 2014 6:21am Jan 7, 2014 6:21am
Quoting nondisclosure00
Hey GG, found this kind of funny. Someone over on eLance.com is/was looking for a coder to do the fine work that you and others have done here. https://www.elance.com/j/forex-dna/50369574/
Someone who follows the thread, but do not know programming. Tell if it is here that the most important is the concept. I only matlab, but slowly I'm learning c + + and mt4 is the beauty of this system, you're constantly learning.
  • #67
  • Jan 7, 2014 6:35am Jan 7, 2014 6:35am
Quoting nondisclosure00
Hey GG, found this kind of funny. Someone over on eLance.com is/was looking for a coder to do the fine work that you and others have done here. https://www.elance.com/j/forex-dna/50369574/
LOL. Thats why it not make sense to share any code or anything, the concept/logic is enough , because later on they gonna sell them as an unique/own system as it happened with many other system as well. If you have the ability and willingness from the logic you can create for yourself and GG are giving us a very nice description. Also it is good to start programming like me C++, sql so 2 in 1
regards
  • #68
  • Jan 7, 2014 6:44am Jan 7, 2014 6:44am
Quoting killerno
{quote} LOL. Thats why it not make sense to share any code or anything, the concept/logic is enough , because later on they gonna sell them as an unique/own system as it happened with many other system as well. If you have the ability and willingness from the logic you can create for yourself and GG are giving us a very nice description. Also it is good to start programming like me C++, sql so 2 in 1 regards
Yes, you're absolutely right. We will watch for explanations of gg53 really are very good.
  • #69
  • Jan 7, 2014 10:02am Jan 7, 2014 10:02am
Quoting burnssss
{quote} Yes, you're absolutely right. We will watch for explanations of gg53 really are very good.
burnssss & killerno,

In my little planet, Utopia, I think that you are both wrong.
If there is abundance of money, and you have a method of harvesting some of it - why not share that method with others?
Why do you want to keep everything to yourself and don't let others enjoy the wealth?

Crossing the galaxy and landing back on planet Earth, you might be right...

G.
  • #70
  • Jan 7, 2014 10:26am Jan 7, 2014 10:26am
Quoting gg53
{quote} burnssss & killerno, In my little planet, Utopia, I think that you are both wrong. If there is abundance of money, and you have a method of harvesting some of it - why not share that method with others? Why do you want to keep everything to yourself and don't let others enjoy the wealth? Crossing the galaxy and landing back on planet Earth, you might be right... G.

Hi GG,

I think you misunderstand me. I am not against sharing, not at all. I am thinking the same way like you. I am against to share the full source code and indi because later on you will see your indi in a nice advertisement with similar name and selling it for XXX USD. I am against this. I think you understand what I mean.
Anyway I would like to thank you again for sharing the whole idea/logic for us, I know it takes a lot of time to write such a nice explanation and answering question.
Cant wait for more explanation, it is a very interesting concept to follow.

regards
  • #71
  • Jan 7, 2014 10:41am Jan 7, 2014 10:41am
Quoting Magix
Just a little update... Oversold on Stochs, simple pattern recognition applied to the M1 charts.... {image}

Can you explain what do you mean...?
  • #72
  • Jan 7, 2014 10:52am Jan 7, 2014 10:52am
Quoting tashi168
{quote} Hello GG53, Thank you, i subscribe for this thread. I have one question : for fractal prediction (the first step), at the beginning of new zz leg, if there is no fractal , then we try to check SET2 for the "0" fractal and "1" fractal, which one is bigger. Do we need to check the candle length exist in current zz leg , or just check the fractals ? Without checking of candle length, how can we know that the fractals pattern is "right" ?
tashi168,

At the very begining, when we have no fractals, we check SET2 only for fractals pattern - ithe probabilities of it being longer.
No need to check total length until this condition is met.
Probabilities calculations description is on its way... and will be posted soon.

G.
  • #73
  • Jan 7, 2014 11:43am Jan 7, 2014 11:43am
Quoting sanmiguell
{quote} Can you explain what do you mean...?
Where GG has started to compile a list of possible trade outcomes, I have taken a single 5 candle trade pattern, which is based on the Fractal Indicator in Meta4. I have used stochastics to define ranges of overbought and over sold and used the Fractal 5 candle trade pattern to trigger the trades.

The base level of the script is a cost averaging, add on increment EA, that is trigger on grid based. Meaning, that in order for a subsequent trade to be placed, a minimum grid requirement and the trigger of OBOS on stochs plus the Fractal pattern must be present.

Basically, I am using Stochs and Fractals to create a ZigZag pattern instead of the standard ZigZag and allowing trades to trigger.

Kind of keeping in idea with the thread, but with my own take.

Does this answer your question?
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  • #74
  • Jan 7, 2014 1:56pm Jan 7, 2014 1:56pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Where GG has started to compile a list of possible trade outcomes, I have taken a single 5 candle trade pattern, which is based on the Fractal Indicator in Meta4. I have used stochastics to define ranges of overbought and over sold and used the Fractal 5 candle trade pattern to trigger the trades. The base level of the script is a cost averaging, add on increment EA, that is trigger on grid based. Meaning, that in order for a subsequent trade to be placed, a minimum grid requirement and the trigger of OBOS on stochs plus the Fractal pattern...
Very interesting Magix!
I'm positive that there are many, many ways to use Bar DNA, Fractal pattern and Zigzag pattern matching, to make some pips from the FOREX market.
We are only just scratching the surface.

Carl
  • #75
  • Jan 7, 2014 2:17pm Jan 7, 2014 2:17pm
Quoting crodzilla
{quote} Very interesting Magix! I'm positive that there are many, many ways to use Bar DNA, Fractal pattern and Zigzag pattern matching, to make some pips from the FOREX market. We are only just scratching the surface. Carl

Here's the thing...

This EA is trading on the USD crosses...and over the last couple days, much like the open to most market weeks, we are in a bit of a choppy PA territory. So, because it is trading both longs and shorts at the same time, it can actually capitalize because of the grid nature and the peaks and valleys of market.

This is tripping an M1 chart and if you click my nick, you will see that I have a few others running off of the same M1 chart with different triggering criteria.

That being said, given the exact same ranges and TP value, it is actually kicking ass over the 3 others.

Qualifying the Trigger by candle recognition, I believe will be key. Taking every trigger on grid for the Fractal pattern as defined by the indicator, would result in a lot more false trigger and due to the grid, perhaps have taken a few less trades due to the ranges.

So, though there is something here...we are only at the 2nd real day of market for the New Year.

When we hit a trend, I fully expect this to look a lot worse...but hey...I got both time and an unlimited amount of demo accounts that can be tested, so really...all valid and all relevant.
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  • #76
  • Jan 7, 2014 3:39pm Jan 7, 2014 3:39pm
Quoting gg53
{quote} burnssss & killerno, In my little planet, Utopia, I think that you are both wrong. If there is abundance of money, and you have a method of harvesting some of it - why not share that method with others? Why do you want to keep everything to yourself and don't let others enjoy the wealth? Crossing the galaxy and landing back on planet Earth, you might be right... G.
gg53
I think I have explained badly, and killermo has explained it well. I just said that what matters is their explanations. That's what I value most.
Expectant their explanations.

thank you very much
  • #77
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:49pm Jan 7, 2014 5:49pm
I don't think I follow you burn, but yes, I do agree. Whoever posted the job does follow the thread but doesn't know that much about programming. Which is ok. It is the concept.

For me, I know MQL4, C++ and C# and VB (Enough to be dangerous), started Java, RPG, COBOL, and I'll leave it at that.

I'm just about done on the candle counting in MQL4 going from 4 k-length up to 20 k-length.

Quoting burnssss
{quote} Someone who follows the thread, but do not know programming. Tell if it is here that the most important is the concept. I only matlab, but slowly I'm learning c + + and mt4 is the beauty of this system, you're constantly learning.
  • #78
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:50pm Jan 7, 2014 5:50pm
How-to: Calculating Probabilities
Added to post #1
Probabilities (DOC & PDF formats) - by crodzilla - http://www.forexfactory.com/crodzilla

Thanks, carl !

G.
  • #79
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:55pm Jan 7, 2014 5:55pm
Everything I code, that actually works, I post here on FF. Freely. If anyone wants to hijack it (not adhering to the open source licence that I seem to always forget about adding), then let them. Then they'll have to setup a payment system, deal with installs on users systems, handle doing support for it, etc. etc. etc.

If I'm making good money off of what I created (trading, not selling it), then why shouldn't I share with everyone here on FF? Everyone here has been so helpful to me. The least I could do is give back.

Besides, if someone purchases it without going out and looking if there's a free version, then it's their own fault.

Quoting killerno
{quote} Hi GG, I think you misunderstand me. I am not against sharing, not at all. I am thinking the same way like you. I am against to share the full source code and indi because later on you will see your indi in a nice advertisement with similar name and selling it for XXX USD. I am against this. I think you understand what I mean. Anyway I would like to thank you again for sharing the whole idea/logic for us, I know it takes a lot of time to write such a nice explanation and answering question. Cant wait for more explanation, it is a very interesting...
  • #80
  • Jan 7, 2014 6:03pm Jan 7, 2014 6:03pm
Quoting nondisclosure00
Everything I code, that actually works, I post here on FF. Freely. If anyone wants to hijack it (not adhering to the open source licence that I seem to always forget about adding), then let them. Then they'll have to setup a payment system, deal with installs on users systems, handle doing support for it, etc. etc. etc. If I'm making good money off of what I created (trading, not selling it), then why shouldn't I share with everyone here on FF? Everyone here has been so helpful to me. The least I could do is give back. Besides, if someone purchases...
nondisclosure00,

That's the spirit.!
I wish everyone leave planet Earth and come to our planet, Utopia.
Maybe we should create an indicator ($49.97) to show them the right way? ;-}

G.
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