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  • #1,261
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:19pm Jan 7, 2014 5:19pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} I disagree, I try an idea, then I try to improve it, sometimes make it worse, then back track then try to improve again, then ultimately scrap the idea as it's just not going to work Live and start again and repeat, my mission was to keep doing that until something stuck. I've had a few profitable methods, just not profitable enough, current method is slightly outside of my parameters as it's more time consuming than I'd like, but I've accepted it and will solve with a EA Email Alert shortly.

Disagree all you want.

You are the perfect example.

7 years and still guessing.

This problem won't be solved by an EA Email Alert, seriously, why would you need to write an EA, instead of just writing an indicator alert or adding an alert to the envelopes? Shit, back in the day, we had an EMA cross alert...add the email alert to that and use applied to high and low as your criteria.

Of course, the lag in this logic as applied to the M1 charts, would turn your system into the perfect counter play. By the time you could take a trigger on this, it would already be time to go against.

Your really not helping yourself out here T.

Not trying to be mean, but with every subsequent post, you are getting more ridiculous in your claims.
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  • #1,262
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:21pm Jan 7, 2014 5:21pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} So would the use of PrintScreen. But that's like Way advanced kinda FF shit to be playing with. lol

Most of my trades are on the Nexus 7 / Phone LG G2, so it's not easy to take a screen shot and post sorry.

Also, do you know how easy it is, to move a MT4 back a few bars and fake the print screen anyway ?? it's easy!! Not that I've done it, or would.

That's why you post with the blank bit on the right I guess!
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  • #1,263
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:21pm Jan 7, 2014 5:21pm
Quoting Rap Skallion
If anyone wants to guess my I.Q. Please do it elsewhere. The forex is interlaced with a matrix of logical inferences, that can be used profitably, I think. for instance: If the EUR/USD is rising and the USD/JPY is falling, then the probability is very high that the EUR/JPY should be falling. I am for now calling these things "Co-complementary triplets". Among the 12 pairs I now trade there are 1320 possible such triplets. Some of them have the force of elementary logic behind them, some do not, and it is easy to determine which are which. Reverse...

Hi, I have an iq of 130 but that includes 7 of my mates.
What you just posted is probably the best post of the day or 2 days. This sort of thing I had a subconscious memory of. and I am sure you are aware if you should get a trigger for one of your Co-complementary triplets you can set triggers for the other pair especially if you can get in at the start of the daily range, good idea
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,264
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:25pm Jan 7, 2014 5:25pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Disagree all you want. You are the perfect example. 7 years and still guessing. This problem won't be solved by an EA Email Alert, seriously, why would you need to write an EA, instead of just writing an indicator alert or adding an alert to the envelopes? Shit, back in the day, we had an EMA cross alert...add the email alert to that and use applied to high and low as your criteria. Of course, the lag in this logic as applied to the M1 charts, would turn your system into the perfect counter play. By the time you could take a trigger on this,...

But you haven't got a clue, of the improvements made, the hours I've put in the last 3 - 4 months, you don't understand my system, therefore your talking out of your ass.

EA / Indicator alert, both the same code, should work, it won't be calling a PERFECT entry, just a watch this getting near, take me what 1minute to get the e-mail and open the charts on phone / tablet and watch to see if it looks tradeable, therefore screen time reduced and issue solved.

In your opinion, errrmmm you don't use SL's, see my issue, it's not worth much is it, your opinion.
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  • #1,265
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:32pm Jan 7, 2014 5:32pm
I see a/u hasn't taken off yet. AND u/j g/j and e/j all waiting for something... OMG I sound like a trader
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,266
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:33pm Jan 7, 2014 5:33pm
catch you guys again and the invisible folks,,,
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,267
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:33pm Jan 7, 2014 5:33pm
Quoting billytt
I see a/u hasn't taken off yet. AND u/j g/j and e/j all waiting for something... OMG I sound like a trader

My short plan is working better, sloppy entry, odds not much better than 50/50 but 1:1.75 RR I thinking, working out in my head.
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,268
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:35pm Jan 7, 2014 5:35pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} There are MANY live profitable trades in my Journal, no MT4 though so sadly can't, that would really help shoot you losers down!!
Get a demo account with Oanda, it's free and with an unlimited time limit. Now you can use a TE. Now you can shut us losers up. Of course, there will be another excuse coming shortly.
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  • #1,269
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:35pm Jan 7, 2014 5:35pm
Quoting nubcake
{quote} It all depends on how picky you want to be about defining it. You could just sling it some bullshit like it starts with a bar that is > 2x the previous bar size of the previous 30 bars, and then the next 5+ bars don't break further from the top of this initial bar any more than 20% it's size. Something like that. If you have managed to define other patterns I can only assume you'll equally find a way to enter this one for analysis. And I understood what you were saying about trading the U. You want that fade. I'm saying to you that I've...
I cannot say anything certain until i quantify it somehow and analyse it deeply, but for now i think its a volatility breakout type scenario.

The fact that you seen many breakouts which didnt faded is 1 thing, but maybe it had different characteristics than this breakout, the volatility was diferent or else.

But in majority, every breakout will fade in the other direction sooner or later, so its a win-win case, because big boys will take-profit after the breakout is over.

And the mere fact that it repeats itself so much can suggest that its not a coin toss scenario, it must have an edge, as for RR sizing, we have to follow the volatility since its a volatility breakout, just use an ATR or similar indicator and exit/close the trade manually when the volatility decreases, SL & TP will be just a decoration above/below daily support levels to not interfere with out system.

Quoting jmn5611
{quote} How does that help us if that pattern itself is a random occurrence?
Thats the point, its not.If it would be then it would not repeat itself so much, so i think its not that random at all.

Quoting Luther
{quote} A pattern that is tradable cannot contain the trade that needs to be taken within the pattern itself. Simply because you can't see all the failed half U's on the left side of your chart because they didn't become a U doesn't make the U's you see something consistent. I can't believe I'm typing this. lol
Almost every breakout will have to fade sooner or later, big buys take profit, which reverses price, we just have to find the characteristics of this pattern and quantify it, and then we can analyse it better.
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  • #1,270
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:37pm Jan 7, 2014 5:37pm
Quoting GEfx
{quote} Proximus, an important skill of a retail trader is to anticipate the levels that cause the formation of your "U" pattern, and to take note of where these levels develop, since they may be significant for future reference, and should not appear random or unexplainable to you. If, when, or how you place a trade depends on how your trading strategy utilizes these levels, and in all probability, they belong in the category of a trade setup, not a trade.
You have a point there, but until i analyse the pattern more deeper i cannot say anything certain about it.
"There's a sucker born every minute" - P.T. Barnum
  • #1,271
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:39pm Jan 7, 2014 5:39pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Get a demo account with Oanda, it's free and with an unlimited time limit. Now you can use a TE. Now you can shut us losers up. Of course, there will be another excuse coming shortly.

Considered it, but my account is at all time highs so I don't really care to be honest.

That and time and hassles!!
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  • #1,272
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:39pm Jan 7, 2014 5:39pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} I'm sure I've studied WAY more boobs that Proxy has, cause that's all he is doing, drawing boobs on the charts and your loving it and eating it up. Ever consider your the fool and you've just surrounded yourself by many other fools, so you don't feel stupid. Cause I'm pretty sure that's the case, Trolling the profitable person, to draw boobs LOL LOL LOL
Draw boobs on the chart thats a good one

Actually it was an ass, but whatever, if it could be profitable than i can rename myself as the new bad-ass trader
"There's a sucker born every minute" - P.T. Barnum
  • #1,273
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:43pm Jan 7, 2014 5:43pm
Quoting Proximus
{quote} Draw boobs on the chart thats a good one Actually it was an ass, but whatever, if it could be profitable than i can rename myself as the new bad-ass trader

Maybe you can find some dick and balls and camel toes while your at it.

Yet again, move away from prediction, move away from accuracy, accuracy is not your friend.
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  • #1,274
  • Jan 7, 2014 5:58pm Jan 7, 2014 5:58pm
Quoting Proximus
{quote} I cannot say anything certain until i quantify it somehow and analyse it deeply, but for now i think its a volatility breakout type scenario. The fact that you seen many breakouts which didnt faded is 1 thing, but maybe it had different characteristics than this breakout, the volatility was diferent or else. But in majority, every breakout will fade in the other direction sooner or later, so its a win-win case, because big boys will take-profit after the breakout is over. And the mere fact that it repeats itself so much can suggest that...
this u or boob is a characteristic seen all day everyday as explained better by others.i dont trade the boob but i am aware of it and it signifies my initial interest.

i found during less volatile periods i can determine if this pattern should form.after half shape the following candle determines the probability as to weather price will fade or take out the high or low depending initial direction.

i made 2 trades today using this technique .both on cable and both from exactly the same level,the first one traded live in my journal.both trades exit at the same level for 20 pips each.chart for illustration. i could not trade this on its own,firstly i need to know when im looking to see such price action,in this case is was the monthly averaged price level on cable,16432,

secondly i need to know how volatile the market is from a collective prospective.

thirdly because price had just risen close to 40 pips from range bottom to top i had to determine the market stalling point,i can determine the stalling point and the overall volatility from the value changes on a group of currencies .

the last swing up was also something i calculated and also added to my interest at that level.the topping candle is key.

ive added other similar set ups although not trad-able due to pips available and spread.but you will see the point.if you can determine were this boob is most likely to appear ,probability starts to fall in your favor
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  • #1,275
  • Jan 7, 2014 6:07pm Jan 7, 2014 6:07pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} Most of my trades are on the Nexus 7 / Phone LG G2, so it's not easy to take a screen shot and post sorry.

Afaik, on many Android phones (all/some?), hold down power button briefly and tap the home button, which will take a screenshot of whatever is currently active. (Confirmed with HTC One)

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Nexus 7
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexu...enshot-278234/

(some info from article)
"The first thing that you need to do is press on the volume down and the power button at the same time. The screen with flash and a shutter sound will sound to indicate the screenshot was captured. The image is saved into the Gallery under the folder Screenshots.

At this point you can slide down the notification shade, and view the image. Or you can press on share to share it with any application. Just like with any other share operation on Android, you can select from an array of applications for sharing."
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I'm curious as well, so don't make excuses for why you can't post the info.

Also, I'm not sure why you would want an email alert if trading m1. It seems far too quick, as by the time the email is sent, received, notification on device goes off, unlock, open app, etc., you might have missed your entry...no?

(Not sure if I'll get a reasonable reply without it getting nasty, but I thought I'd just add this bit.)
  • #1,276
  • Jan 7, 2014 6:08pm Jan 7, 2014 6:08pm
Quoting diceman555
{quote} this u or boob is a characteristic seen all day everyday as explained better by others.i dont trade the boob but i am aware of it and it signifies my initial interest. i found during less volatile periods i can determine if this pattern should form.after half shape the following candle determines the probability as to weather price will fade or take out the high or low depending initial direction. i made 2 trades today using this technique .both on cable and both from exactly the same level,the first one traded live in my journal.both trades...

I bet he didn't think the boob was a real trading thing LOL newbies!!

The tricky part, is to get your entry right in the nipple, made harder these days, messed up fake boobs can put in a false nipple or 2 or it's just not where you'd expect at all.

I might rename, my barriers ( S/R but only live immediate not historic ) into Boobs to annoy more people LOL



Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,277
  • Jan 7, 2014 6:11pm Jan 7, 2014 6:11pm
Quoting Nefser
{quote} Afaik, on many Android phones (all/some?), hold down power button briefly and tap the home button, which will take a screenshot of whatever is currently active. (Confirmed with HTC One) --------------- Nexus 7 http://www.androidauthority.com/nexu...enshot-278234/ (some info from article) "The first thing that you need to do is press on the volume down and the power button at the same time. The screen with flash and a shutter sound will sound to indicate the screenshot was captured. The image is saved into the Gallery under...

Yes I know that, but can I then post that picture on FF directly off the phone, will the Attach work ?? guess I'll have to give it a shot.

I don't trade M1 in a quick way, I sometimes hold for hours as the market keeps going my direction, I trade it how you'd trade a M15 but with M1 accuracy get it ??
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  • #1,278
  • Jan 7, 2014 6:14pm Jan 7, 2014 6:14pm
Is there a chart ?
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  • #1,279
  • Jan 7, 2014 6:14pm Jan 7, 2014 6:14pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} I bet he didn't think the boob was a real trading thing LOL newbies!! The tricky part, is to get your entry right in the nipple, made harder these days, messed up fake boobs can put in a false nipple or 2 or it's just not where you'd expect at all. I might rename, my barriers ( S/R but only live immediate not historic ) into Boobs to annoy more people LOL

i wrote u shape fist but prefer boob and actually you raise a good point(no pun intended)the nipple as you mention is the key point ,that candle tells me the validity of my interest,
  • #1,280
  • Jan 7, 2014 6:15pm Jan 7, 2014 6:15pm
Quoting diceman555
{quote} i wrote u shape fist but prefer boob and actually you raise a good point(no pun intended)the nipple as you mention is the key point ,that candle tells me the validity of my interest,

In this case, it's all about the candle
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