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  • #1,141
  • Jan 6, 2014 4:19pm Jan 6, 2014 4:19pm
and 100 pips, ok I have no idea how long it will take lol, but I predict it will
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,142
  • Jan 6, 2014 4:24pm Jan 6, 2014 4:24pm
Quoting billytt
I will be trading a/u off the daily uk time

Daily, Eccckkss.


Here I'd be looking to short 8957, SL would need to be 9020 TP would be 8860.



Exposing yourself to way to much news for my likings though, a lot can change in minutes, let alone days.
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  • #1,143
  • Jan 6, 2014 4:28pm Jan 6, 2014 4:28pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} 100pips so H1 or H4 trade then ?? allowing for standard convention. H1 and H4 downtrend for ages, might be turning up be a week or 2 before I can confirm on H1 LOL, so 52% chance it'll go south before it goes up 100pips. You think I'm joking, ohhhh I can trade H4, I just think it's ridiculous!!

You've allegedly taken 1 trade in 2 weeks...off of the M1 charts.

lol

Does it really make that much difference in your world?
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  • #1,144
  • Jan 6, 2014 4:31pm Jan 6, 2014 4:31pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} You've allegedly taken 1 trade in 2 weeks...off of the M1 charts. lol Does it really make that much difference in your world?

Then I'll get a free day and I'll make 10.

I trade more off the tablet when I'm looking after the kids due to boredom, haven't seen them in 2 weeks they've been away.


Think it's 2 ? maybe!
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  • #1,145
  • Jan 6, 2014 4:35pm Jan 6, 2014 4:35pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} Daily, Eccckkss. Here I'd be looking to short 8957, SL would need to be 9020 TP would be 8860. Exposing yourself to way to much news for my likings though, a lot can change in minutes, let alone days.
when I was trading, I traded lines as inside bars,orb ema- cross. I just traded regardless and heartless never bothered about news etc.
I did say it looks like it might head north but that is all hear say, I will trade it where the big boys take it
daily a/u been going down, weekly been going down, monthly going up take your pick lol.
for the newbies we had double bottoms, 20ema cross inside bar, all sorts of weird shit , lets see
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,146
  • Jan 6, 2014 4:38pm Jan 6, 2014 4:38pm
Quoting billytt
{quote} when I was trading, I traded lines as inside bars,orb ema- cross. I just traded regardless and heartless never bothered about news etc. I did say it looks like it might head north but that is all hear say, I will trade it where the big boys take it daily a/u been going down, weekly been going down, monthly going up take your pick lol. for the newbies we had double bottoms, 20ema cross inside bar, all sorts of weird shit , lets see

Far to subjective and predictive for me there dude, I need market will almost definately do this and can only get that off M1.

Keep me posted and I shall make a note of it, when you do it, SL and TP pls for Stat's purposes.
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  • #1,147
  • Jan 6, 2014 4:41pm Jan 6, 2014 4:41pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} Then I'll get a free day and I'll make 10. I trade more off the tablet when I'm looking after the kids due to boredom, haven't seen them in 2 weeks they've been away. Think it's 2 ? maybe!

Over 70 Posts in 24 Hours.

1 Trade.

What is your hobby Turv?

Trading or trolling...

I think the Stats speak loudly on this one...
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  • #1,148
  • Jan 6, 2014 4:52pm Jan 6, 2014 4:52pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Over 70 Posts in 24 Hours. 1 Trade. What is your hobby Turv? Trading or trolling... I think the Stats speak loudly on this one...

No you troll, I chat / debate, learn the difference.


Been working all day, only took that cause it looked so damn perfect and I'd actually opened my charts briefly.

it's 00:50 and system to demo to client at 11am tomorrow, looking like a all nighter
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  • #1,149
  • Jan 6, 2014 4:54pm Jan 6, 2014 4:54pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} No you troll, I chat / debate, learn the difference. Been working all day, only took that cause it looked so damn perfect and I'd actually opened my charts briefly. it's 00:50 and system to demo to client at 11am tomorrow, looking like a all nighter

Sure, buddy...

With your half assed work ethic...are you really going to be ready?

70 posts in the last 24 hours...seems to me that if you spent this time getting your job done, you could actually take on a trade when opportunity presents...

But yet...

Here we are.

You will spend more time fighting me in a thread, where your posts are completely off topic and irrelevant than doing what you actually need to do?

Right?
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  • #1,150
  • Jan 6, 2014 4:59pm Jan 6, 2014 4:59pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Sure, buddy... With your half assed work ethic...are you really going to be ready? 70 posts in the last 24 hours...seems to me that if you spent this time getting your job done, you could actually take on a trade when opportunity presents... But yet... Here we are. You will spend more time fighting me in a thread, where your posts are completely off topic and irrelevant than doing what you actually need to do? Right?

If you stopped posting me, it would help LOL


My charts aren't up, my Map system has 2gb's of map files and MT4 charts being Java use a boat load of memory really slowing it down.

COFFEE then 2 more things it needs to do
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  • #1,151
  • Jan 6, 2014 5:04pm Jan 6, 2014 5:04pm
Quoting Turveyd
COFFEE then 2 more things it needs to do
RRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright.

Just like nubs mentioned.

Always a perpetual 60 days away from being full time...

I think I've made my point.

Keep on trolling.

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  • #1,152
  • Jan 6, 2014 5:18pm Jan 6, 2014 5:18pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} Cause the market does move differently M1 to H4, M1 lets you trade live action, trading the order flow which is what I do, H4 becomes a prediction game and well yeah you can't really predict H4, there are trends but there SLOW!! More trades are good, more trades = more profit. Yes 10%-30% of the move is wasted on Spread, spreads costs me I think it's approx $6000 over the years, as I'm approx down $2500, I'd be showing a profit if not for spread. But M1 is tradeable at a 80% win rate, H4 isn't, simple as. I get 100pip moves of M1 charts...
Being profitable but for spread should say something to you, Turv. And you seem to be impatient, which will very greatly hinder your progress. Ever heard the term, more haste, less speed?

And I say again that if you are that confident, you should make the leap. Make trading a priority.

As far as profitable H4 traders go there is an entire nest of them on the internet somewhere.
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  • #1,153
  • Jan 6, 2014 5:23pm Jan 6, 2014 5:23pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} RRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright. Just like nubs mentioned. Always a perpetual 60 days away from being full time... I think I've made my point. Keep on trolling.

Do you troll's get together and share notes

If client 2 weeks ago had lost the contract which was expected then I'd be full time already, with 3 - 4 months cash in the bank to get to a wage level.

Sadly they got it, which is creating me loads of work, so work I am SUCKS!!


Got to get 100,000Km's of road in the county, driven around by 4 men in van's and record the state of all the white lines / road markings by 1st April



full time happens, when ever I run out of work, make or fail, I hate work
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  • #1,154
  • Jan 6, 2014 5:26pm Jan 6, 2014 5:26pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Being profitable but for spread should say something to you, Turv. And you seem to be impatient, which will very greatly hinder your progress. Ever heard the term, more haste, less speed? And I say again that if you are that confident, you should make the leap. Make trading a priority. As far as profitable H4 traders go there is an entire nest of them on the internet somewhere.

Come on everyone on this site claims to be profitable, until you ask them to prove it then silence.

Different method, finally got the method I've always wanted to take the pips I've been seeing but unable to get.



Developing a E-mail alert via MT4, got to my phone / tablet only basic 1, but enough to alert me to possible setups then trade or not, should increase the trades I make, hugely.


Sadly, got to go with the £30 per hour over guaranteed!!
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  • #1,155
  • Jan 6, 2014 5:32pm Jan 6, 2014 5:32pm
Quoting Turveyd
Sadly, got to go with the £30 per hour over guaranteed!!

I'd ask if it involves a visit to a ship yard, and meeting sailors...

But, that's keeping as much in topic as you typically do...

So I wont.

(not saying that I won't assume the same)
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  • #1,156
  • Jan 6, 2014 5:34pm Jan 6, 2014 5:34pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} I'd ask if it involves a visit to a ship yard, and meeting sailors... But, that's keeping as much in topic as you typically do... So I wont. (not saying that I won't assume the same)

You wish!
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  • #1,157
  • Jan 6, 2014 5:38pm Jan 6, 2014 5:38pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} Cause the market does move differently M1 to H4, M1 lets you trade live action, trading the order flow which is what I do, H4 becomes a prediction game and well yeah you can't really predict H4, there are trends but there SLOW!! More trades are good, more trades = more profit. Yes 10%-30% of the move is wasted on Spread, spreads costs me I think it's approx $6000 over the years, as I'm approx down $2500, I'd be showing a profit if not for spread. But M1 is tradeable at a 80% win rate, H4 isn't, simple as. I get 100pip moves of M1 charts...
I trade the 4H/1H charts, entering and exiting on the 10M chart. Your assumption about lower win rates on trading higher time compressions is wrong. You can check my Journal for details. But, I'm happy you are having success on the 1M. Sorry you are taking so much grief here. Good trading!
  • #1,158
  • Jan 6, 2014 5:42pm Jan 6, 2014 5:42pm
Quoting GEfx
{quote} I trade the 4H/1H charts, entering and exiting on the 10M chart. Your assumption about lower win rates on trading higher time compressions is wrong. You can check my Journal for details. But, I'm happy you are having success on the 1M. Sorry you are taking so much grief here. Good trading!

Not your fault dude

Or your M10 is keeping your detail enough, or your just very very good ??

Will check it another night, thanks!
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  • #1,159
  • Jan 6, 2014 5:44pm Jan 6, 2014 5:44pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} Come on everyone on this site claims to be profitable, until you ask them to prove it then silence. Different method, finally got the method I've always wanted to take the pips I've been seeing but unable to get. Developing a E-mail alert via MT4, got to my phone / tablet only basic 1, but enough to alert me to possible setups then trade or not, should increase the trades I make, hugely. Sadly, got to go with the £30 per hour over guaranteed!!
You can see pips you could have made off of MA crossover system. What matters is that hard right edge.

The profitability thing is a slippery slope. First, the naysayer will say that it is only a short time and that luck was involved. If you show statement, they will say it was photoshopped. If you get out sized returns they will scream about leverage. It is simply not worth the trouble to prove to a bunch a strangers whether or not money is being made.

I would also warn that if your trying to make M1 decisions from a phone and tablet, you are not being as focused as you can be.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,160
  • Jan 6, 2014 5:49pm Jan 6, 2014 5:49pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} You can see pips you could have made off of MA crossover system. What matters is that hard right edge. The profitability thing is a slippery slope. First, the naysayer will say that it is only a short time and that luck was involved. If you show statement, they will say it was photoshopped. If you get out sized returns they will scream about leverage. It is simply not worth the trouble to prove to a bunch a strangers whether or not money is being made. I would also warn that if your trying to make M1 decisions from a phone and tablet, you...

MA Crossover ?? you realise they don't work, great in trend, but loses way too much in chop right ??

I agree on no.2, but many M1 / M5 traders have bothered to prove it and no H4 traders so still hmmm!!

My phone and tablet are bought specifically for the task, both have 3G connections ( ofcourse on the phone ), all trades are placed on phone / tablet these days, works great, got some great charting software though which really helps.
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