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  • #12,821
  • Dec 29, 2013 4:49pm Dec 29, 2013 4:49pm
Quoting infinitus
and again the spies http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-1...iques-revealed
Hmmm. I was wondering why my Google (NSA) account is always enticing me with ads for FX brokers. They know about me and they want me to keep trading

ADD: I found a solution to the problem. Quite fashionable too
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  • #12,822
  • Dec 29, 2013 5:15pm Dec 29, 2013 5:15pm
Quoting PipTrapper
{quote} Hmmm. I was wondering why my Google (NSA) account is always enticing me with ads for FX brokers. They know about me and they want me to keep trading ADD: I found a solution to the problem. Quite fashionable too {image}
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  • #12,823
  • Dec 29, 2013 5:25pm Dec 29, 2013 5:25pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} {image} {image}
Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it
  • #12,824
  • Dec 30, 2013 3:24am Dec 30, 2013 3:24am
the spies again

http://rt.com/usa/nsa-top-unit-tao-954/

I can not vomit as much as I want.........


Time to take a few cretins to the guillotines, ain't it?
  • #12,825
  • Dec 30, 2013 4:03am Dec 30, 2013 4:03am
interesting EW view on EU

http://www.ew-forecast.com/newslette...oint_at_the_st
  • #12,826
  • Dec 30, 2013 4:33am Dec 30, 2013 4:33am
Quoting infinitus
interesting EW view on EU http://www.ew-forecast.com/newslette...oint_at_the_st
Yes interesting. We shall see.
Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it
  • #12,827
  • Dec 30, 2013 5:19am Dec 30, 2013 5:19am
Remains 3-4 days. The goal is still 3916. Just during the time, the level will be a magnet for the price. May never be reached, may do break through. If this happens we will see again.

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  • #12,828
  • Edited 6:18am Dec 30, 2013 5:42am | Edited 6:18am
Quoting infinitus
the spies again http://rt.com/usa/nsa-top-unit-tao-954/ I can not vomit as much as I want......... Time to take a few cretins to the guillotines, ain't it?
I wonder how could someone be so hipocritical, blaming China all the time on hacking abuse while on other hand they are doing it twice as much, pretty much doing it as much as whole other part of world combined.

Today and this weeks viewsEU bullish, AU in case of price return to support is bearish, GJ bounce on trendline and running to top is bullish and will break high, UCAD bullish).
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  • #12,829
  • Dec 30, 2013 5:47am Dec 30, 2013 5:47am
Quoting janpec1000
{quote} I wonder how could someone be so hipocritical, blaming China all the time on hacking abuse while on other hand they are doing it twice as much, pretty much doing it as much as whole other part of world combined.
It's always been this way. If you were a military commander and you didn't know what your allies and your enemies were doing, you would be fired.
The internet just makes it easier.
Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it
  • #12,830
  • Dec 30, 2013 6:45am Dec 30, 2013 6:45am
Quoting PipTrapper
{quote} It's always been this way. If you were a military commander and you didn't know what your allies and your enemies were doing, you would be fired. The internet just makes it easier.
Hm cant agree completly with that Just as example, Genghis conquered half of world, just becouse noone knew what he was doing until they face them in battle. None of comanders were fired due to that from oposite side. Sure that was long time ago, information in modern era is driving different standarts, but i am sure you could still find and bump into same problem today too.

Holding GJ buy since 173.2, BE SL atm, probably gona hit it, will recharge on new m5 low formation.
  • #12,831
  • Dec 30, 2013 7:54am Dec 30, 2013 7:54am
Quoting janpec1000
{quote} I wonder how could someone be so hipocritical, blaming China all the time on hacking abuse while on other hand they are doing it twice as much, pretty much doing it as much as whole other part of world combined. Today and this weeks viewsEU bullish, AU in case of price return to support is bearish, GJ bounce on trendline and running to top is bullish and will break high, UCAD bullish). http://prntscr.com/2f4083 http://prntscr.com/2f40gl http://prntscr.com/2f40yn...

Exactly my sentiment - what a bunch of cockroaches. But in the end: what do we have to await of the same persons that started war with Iraq under the false testimony that Iraq would be in possession of atomic weapons?

But then again: they fooled the whole world over and over again

And there is the saying: fool me once- shame on you, fool me twice - shame on me
  • #12,832
  • Dec 30, 2013 8:08am Dec 30, 2013 8:08am
Quoting infinitus
{quote} Exactly my sentiment - what a bunch of cockroaches. But in the end: what do we have to await of the same persons that started war with Iraq under the false testimony that Iraq would be in possession of atomic weapons? But then again: they fooled the whole world over and over again And there is the saying: fool me once- shame on you, fool me twice - shame on me
Hehe well said. I think that only time i was personally fooled was by thinking that electing Obama will be good thing, as personallity and appearance would play role in better president of country that pretty much dictates monetary views of whole world- passively. I am quite proud that i have in my 5 years since turning 18 havent voted once, not supporting ponzi scheme that is represented trough our politicans, just as much as it is in other countries. And thats what people have to realise, this is one of most important steps toward getting rid of those NSAs, CIAs, Mosads, fiat currencies (i know thats probably end of FX but it has to be done) and what not. There are however good election candidates in some countries, that are not perfect but for sure at moment only chance to get onto better roads, and yet when they campain people dont give a shit about them. Or media doesnt either. I think it is beyond words of stupidty when USA or UK parents elect those people on top of goverment and then they send their sons (many of them republicans) into Iraq or Afgan fight on and for false flag events that are produced or backed by same people that they elect. And then maybe peple sent to fight there also have decent chance to die in gun fight. I feel petty for people like that, becouse there is enough people willing to go fight for petrodollar system ponzi scheme will always exist toped by functions like NSA and CIA.
Revolution has to come but it will be hard, becouse narrow minded people will be too hard to change in view. I still stay optimist electing right USA president should be biggest step forward for whole world.

But yeh as you said they did fooled world, thankfully internet is really doing its job on getting things into reverse engineering sort to say.


EU hit target (picture on post before), GJ hit BE SL. Gold is gona go on rampage drop if we meet 1200 again, however meeting 1214 is bullish with target 1230.
Btw daily and h4 pins on EU are quite scary, what do you guys think about quallity of info from them. I would not account much info from those as they happened on friday in those wierd moves, and not sure if they represent any obstracle towards 1.40
  • #12,833
  • Dec 30, 2013 8:32am Dec 30, 2013 8:32am
Quoting PipTrapper
{quote} It's always been this way. If you were a military commander and you didn't know what your allies and your enemies were doing, you would be fired. The internet just makes it easier.

Spying on the whole world in this fashion and to this degree is out of my sight the best recipe for a disaster. When you can not trust even your allies anymore....... What will be the result?

Did they really thought to create an environment for safety reasons? Could they not have thought about it, that the whole world looks at such actions as trying to get some kind of world domination?

How could they have ever thought, that all of this would not see the light of day?
  • #12,834
  • Dec 30, 2013 8:40am Dec 30, 2013 8:40am
Quoting janpec1000
{quote} Hm cant agree completly with that Just as example, Genghis conquered half of world, just becouse noone knew what he was doing until they face them in battle. None of comanders were fired due to that from oposite side. Sure that was long time ago, information in modern era is driving different standarts, but i am sure you could still find and bump into same problem today too. Holding GJ buy since 173.2, BE SL atm, probably gona hit it, will recharge on new m5 low formation.
Well. The "getting fired" bit was more of a figure of speech. The point was that intelligence is key and has always been. It gives you an advantage by eliminating many chances of surprise... not only from enemy nations, but also from terrorist and criminal groups.

Don't get me wrong. I would rather that there were no spy agencies at all and that my data is always kept top secret... in that I can trust the so called encrypted services that are offered and which I pay for. The reality however says that I cannot, but even if government agencies didn't hack into networks, criminals would still do it and it is the latter (the criminals) that can cause me the most damage. Of course an argument can also be made that the government is the largest of all criminal orgs.
Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it
  • #12,835
  • Dec 30, 2013 8:50am Dec 30, 2013 8:50am
Quoting infinitus
{quote} Spying on the whole world in this fashion and to this degree is out of my sight the best recipe for a disaster. When you can not trust even your allies anymore....... What will be the result? Did they really thought to create an environment for safety reasons? Could they not have thought about it, that the whole world looks at such actions as trying to get some kind of world domination? How could they have ever thought, that all of this would not see the light of day?
If they thought they would never be caught, they were stupid. Dead bodies eventually float to the top. The sick part is that current governments never worry about their actions because it is always some government in the future that will pay the consequences.

Anyway, as I said before, this has been going on for a very long time, before you and I were even born. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage#History

The electronic age where everything is recorded in ones and zeros including the hacking activities makes it easier to do and also more evident that it is being done.
Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it
  • #12,836
  • Dec 30, 2013 8:59am Dec 30, 2013 8:59am
Quoting PipTrapper
{quote} If they thought they would never be caught, they were stupid. Dead bodies eventually float to the top. The sick part is that current governments never worry about their actions because it is always some government in the future that will pay the consequences. Anyway, as I said before, this has been going on for a very long time, before you and I were even born. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage#History The electronic age where everything is recorded in ones and zeros including the hacking activities makes it easier to do...

I was not surprised that they spy, I was surprised about the extent. Would never have thought that they were such shameless. Well, shame on me for being naive

What are our countermeasures?
  • #12,837
  • Dec 30, 2013 9:13am Dec 30, 2013 9:13am
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How could they have ever thought, that all of this would not see the light of day?

Well they were doing quite well for years...until Snowden and Maning joined army. Boy did they shoot in their own foot by hiring them Thats way Goverment Sachs does 10 interviews when they hire someone, it keeps those chances lower of hiring whistle blower. However they have those too, in the end any secret organization once gets uncovered becouse there is just statistically little chance that every single person working there is or will behave like its planned.

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Don't get me wrong. I would rather that there were no spy agencies at all and that my data is always kept top secret... in that I can trust the so called encrypted services that are offered and which I pay for. The reality however says that I cannot, but even if government agencies didn't hack into networks, criminals would still do it and it is the latter (the criminals) that can cause me the most damage. Of course an argument can also be made that the government is the largest of all criminal orgs.

I can see your point but the main problem is that thinking like that is not good. Basically what needs to happen is rather change and figuring out new system of how to prevent terrorist or whoever to attack people rather than keeping system as it is working. It is just as wrong using same principle to explain investment banks are good for investors becouse some of them get profits of them, on other hand they destroy economies of countries like Greece, and using argument as if that is colatheral damage which you cant prevent is not really good view to stand by. Or saying that money printing is great for economies with low inflation driving towards deflation...well there is a beast on other hand that is created by this. So it has to come to a change and first step is to get rid of current spying agencies, market will follow and create their own better protection agencies or goverments will.
Then on other hand i see that you are thinking from rather realistic point of view as changing system into "perfect" is rather hard and unlikely. But who knows, there are ways to do it so maybe we shall see those days when it gets done.
  • #12,838
  • Dec 30, 2013 10:20am Dec 30, 2013 10:20am
Quoting godim
Remains 3-4 days. The goal is still 3916. Just during the time, the level will be a magnet for the price. May never be reached, may do break through. If this happens we will see again. {image}
I intend to finish the year with these two charts.
New Year - new luck.
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  • #12,839
  • Dec 30, 2013 11:12am Dec 30, 2013 11:12am
Hi Infinitus!
Dear Trader!

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Denk dir einen Baobab-Baum,
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stell dir vor, wie sie klettern,
baumeln, wie sie sich aneinandergeklammert,
hangeln von Ast zu Ast (Währungspaar zu Währungspaar);
bis sie sich fallen lassen,
verhoffen, sich zu paaren, dösen -
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der all das beschreiben wollte!

Lach, erschrick, wundere dich,
doch hör auf, bevor du verrückt wirst,
über das Nachdenken nachzudenken.

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Happy New Year!
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  • #12,840
  • Edited 12:00pm Dec 30, 2013 11:21am | Edited 12:00pm
Forextrading ist in den letzten Jahren zunehmend ein reines Spekulationsgeschäft geworden.
Nicht mehr und nicht weniger.
Sei dir darüber im klaren, wenn du tradest.
I like FX-Trading!
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