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  • #2,181
  • Dec 9, 2013 11:28am Dec 9, 2013 11:28am
Hi,
Is there anyone out there trying CHJungen and Dewey EA? I am using it with a relative amount of success however i do have some basic queries with it and i would like to hear from some other traders that may be trialing it.
Chris has been very helpful but i don't want to bother him with trivial stuff that other traders can possible guide me in as i know he is super busy at the moment.
I would just like to hear from some other users please.

Andy
  • #2,182
  • Dec 9, 2013 1:44pm Dec 9, 2013 1:44pm
Quoting gg53
{quote} orid, Gadi_OBV doesn't "decide" by itself where are the "Killing Zones" on your chart. There are some guidelines in this forum that let you manually or visually define those areas. Gadi_OBV marks, by default, the Asian session as possible area of consolidation - but it's up to you to decide if this is really the case. Gadi_Currencies is my way of calculating interaction between currencies, their direction and their relative strength. I didn't study the differences between Gadi_Currencies and other indicators. G.
Ok I've managed to read through all the posts, printed out important points for easier reference and sorted some of the butterflies in my head. I think I have a passable understanding of the "system" and which indi does what etc etc. I just have one last bit to ask before Im ready to take this for spin.

1)Does the Gadi_OBV mark anything else other the the asian session?
2)Or rather do I have to draw other "killzones" manually?
3)Other than setting the TF for Gadi_OBV is there anything else I need to set?
4)Are the marked zones suppose to disappear after sometime/condition cause mine did.

If my questions above are already answered somewhere please point me to it and I'm sorry for missing it and quote "tunnel vision" in my defence. And thank you all you great people for your sharing!!
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  • #2,183
  • Dec 9, 2013 2:04pm Dec 9, 2013 2:04pm
Quoting cfdtaleong
{quote} Ok I've managed to read through all the posts, printed out important points for easier reference and sorted some of the butterflies in my head. I think I have a passable understanding of the "system" and which indi does what etc etc. I just have one last bit to ask before Im ready to take this for spin. 1)Does the Gadi_OBV mark anything else other the the asian session? 2)Or rather do I have to draw other "killzones" manually? 3)Other than setting the TF for Gadi_OBV is there anything else I need to set? 4)Are the marked zones suppose to...
cfdtaleong,

1. Gadi_OBV marks areas of TIME. By default it is marking the Asian session. The parameters are settable - and you can create a CHANNEL at any time you want, or cancel the channel creation in the relevant parameter.

2. For other than "certain hours" cannels - you have to draw the channel manually.

3. No.

4. Marked zones suppose to disappear after sometime.

G.
  • #2,184
  • Dec 9, 2013 2:22pm Dec 9, 2013 2:22pm
Quoting gg53
{quote} cfdtaleong, 1. Gadi_OBV marks areas of TIME. By default it is marking the Asian session. The parameters are settable - and you can create a CHANNEL at any time you want, or cancel the channel creation in the relevant parameter. 2. For other than "certain hours" cannels - you have to draw the channel manually. 3. No. 4. Marked zones suppose to disappear after sometime. G.
Thank you!! Now is time to commit what you and others have shared to memory!
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  • #2,185
  • Dec 9, 2013 8:55pm Dec 9, 2013 8:55pm
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Technical question I overlay currencies and currencies difference and this is what i get. Doesn't look too right proply because the zero point is mark differently. Just curious as to why. The information given by both are in sync though
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  • #2,186
  • Dec 10, 2013 11:18am Dec 10, 2013 11:18am
Quoting cfdtaleong
{image} Technical question I overlay currencies and currencies difference and this is what i get. Doesn't look too right proply because the zero point is mark differently. Just curious as to why. The information given by both are in sync though
The indicators have different scaling, that's why the zero lines don't match. Maybe this helps you:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=6000166#post6000166
  • #2,187
  • Dec 10, 2013 11:57am Dec 10, 2013 11:57am
Quoting cfdtaleong
{image} Technical question I overlay currencies and currencies difference and this is what i get. Doesn't look too right proply because the zero point is mark differently. Just curious as to why. The information given by both are in sync though
cfdtaleong,

The zero line is not the same because MT4 resizes the height for each indictor diffrently according to the containing data.
The DIFF indicator has smaller highs/lows then the full version which displays other currencies as well.
But it's the same indicator values on both.

G.
  • #2,188
  • Dec 11, 2013 1:27am Dec 11, 2013 1:27am
Quoting gg53
{quote} cfdtaleong, 1. Gadi_OBV marks areas of TIME. By default it is marking the Asian session. The parameters are settable - and you can create a CHANNEL at any time you want, or cancel the channel creation in the relevant parameter. 2. For other than "certain hours" cannels - you have to draw the channel manually. 3. No. 4. Marked zones suppose to disappear after sometime. G.
hello gg .
May I ask please about Futerespecs Kill zone V1.3.1
is it still in use or was it abandoned ?
if still usable can anyone post the settings for 15 mins 1 hour and 4 hour please
any help appreciated
Thanks Peter
  • #2,189
  • Dec 11, 2013 3:18am Dec 11, 2013 3:18am
following with interest. indicators installed and will be demoing the method for the next couple of weeks. although i am not a very proficient programmer as some here are i can and will be glad to help if needed. many green pips to u all speacially to GG,of course.

(waiting an entry long off the Asian channel...)
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  • #2,190
  • Dec 11, 2013 3:21am Dec 11, 2013 3:21am
Quoting orid
{quote} hello gg . May I ask please about Futerespecs Kill zone V1.3.1 is it still in use or was it abandoned ? if still usable can anyone post the settings for 15 mins 1 hour and 4 hour please any help appreciated Thanks Peter
orid,

Futerespecs Kill zone V1.3.1 was introduced by Futerespecs (http://www.forexfactory.com/futurespec).
It's not my indicator, and I believe it was part of "work in progress".

G.
  • #2,191
  • Dec 11, 2013 3:31am Dec 11, 2013 3:31am
Quoting gg53
{quote} orid, Futerespecs Kill zone V1.3.1 was introduced by Futerespecs (http://www.forexfactory.com/futurespec). It's not my indicator, and I believe it was part of "work in progress". G.
Oh pity it wasnt devloped more seemed,
quite clever to save time checking the charts.
Thanks for your reply
Regards peter
  • #2,192
  • Dec 11, 2013 7:50am Dec 11, 2013 7:50am
fellow GADI traders,

i am looking into the system with the time i have available and i must admit i still have quite a few doubts. i wouldn't want to disturb GG, i believe his time is too valuable, and i also know that probably with a deeper study on all the posts all of my doubts should be cleared. still, and asking for your understanding, i will place them here. if anyone has the time to help i am very thankfull.

i guess today the EU is a very good case study. we have been all of london in a range clearing stops above and below. if using the OBV with standard settings to the asian session. we have had already 2 fakeouts (please forgive me if i am interpreting wrong): 1 to the up side (went 5 pips above) at 9am GMT and another down (went 6 pips below) at 10am GMT. since at those times the obv never close above the channel we shouldn't adjust the said channel (right?). right now i am long on the 3rd signal.

could anyone comment on this? thank you.
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  • #2,193
  • Dec 11, 2013 8:46am Dec 11, 2013 8:46am
Quoting wannaberich
fellow GADI traders, i am looking into the system with the time i have available and i must admit i still have quite a few doubts. i wouldn't want to disturb GG, i believe his time is too valuable, and i also know that probably with a deeper study on all the posts all of my doubts should be cleared. still, and asking for your understanding, i will place them here. if anyone has the time to help i am very thankfull. i guess today the EU is a very good case study. we have been all of london in a range clearing stops above and below. if using the OBV...
try post #1058 and #1086 for some entry rules. there are more around that post range I think. The asia channel is sort of default and I'm under the impression it should be manually update for "safety". Im learning and testing just as you are so this is for discussion

1)Im assuming you entered at the 1st doji of your 3rd circle so base on obv break out that appears to be correct. +1
2)gadi tick and gadi trend are both blue so that appears to be correct too I prefer (gadi normal volume instead of trend). +1
3)gadi tick is above 0 which is important. +1
4)curreny difference line looked "uppish" in my opinion, would prefer more definition +0
5)currency lines are in correct position, blue above green for long but correlated so +0

3/5 entry. For this I will go down to the lower TF for confirm. This point system I'm using is just a method I've learned elsewhere to help entry decision. Anyway I was long too and out at +25. +40 for you perhaps for you if you took it there?
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  • #2,194
  • Dec 11, 2013 8:59am Dec 11, 2013 8:59am
Quoting cfdtaleong
{quote} try post #1058 and #1086 for some entry rules. there are more around that post range I think. The asia channel is sort of default and I'm under the impression it should be manually update for "safety". Im learning and testing just as you are so this is for discussion 1)Im assuming you entered at the 1st doji of your 3rd circle so base on obv break out that appears to be correct. +1 2)gadi tick and gadi trend are both blue so that appears to be correct too I prefer (gadi normal volume instead of trend). +1 3)gadi tick is above 0 which is...
yes, i did enter on that circle but in the first candle inside the circle. that entry we know by now was a good one but the ones marked as 1st and 2nd are valid entries also, right? those two are the ones i am more "worried" as those 2 were losses. no problem with that as we know that every system must accomodate losses still i was just trying to figure out if they were valid or not. sl at be by now and my TP is 1.3831 defined by a different approach.

EDIT: looking at posts 1050 to 1100. this will take some studying. will have to do it at the end of the day. thanks for pointing that out.
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  • #2,195
  • Edited 9:32am Dec 11, 2013 9:19am | Edited 9:32am
Quoting wannaberich
{quote} yes, i did enter on that circle but in the first candle inside the circle. that entry we know by now was a good one but the ones marked as 1st and 2nd are valid entries also, right? those two are the ones i am more "worried" as those 2 were losses. no problem with that as we know that every system must accomodate losses still i was just trying to figure out if they were valid or not. sl at be by now and my TP is 1.3831 defined by a different approach.
Please correct me if I am wrong but point 1 and 2 do not look like valid entries to me as there is no break of the Obv channel. If you have been looking at the breaks on the price chart, again correct me if I'm wrong, then you are doing it wrongly. It has to be breaks of the Obv channel by the Obv line in the Obv window. This point we have to be very clear on.

Edit: There was a 5/5 sell signal which I took for +18 for a total of +47 with the previous long. This thread is worth your effort my friend. If anything at the very least it tells you when not to trade.

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Edit: This is my 5m where I saw 4/5 signal. If sold at price break would have been -9 before actual signal about 15mins later where Obv line broke Obv channel for my +18. Hope it helps
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  • #2,196
  • Dec 11, 2013 9:31am Dec 11, 2013 9:31am
Quoting cfdtaleong
{quote} Please correct me if I am wrong but point 1 and 2 do not look like valid entries to me as there is no break of the Obv channel. If you have been looking at the breaks on the price chart, again correct me if I'm wrong, then you are doing it wrongly. It has to be breaks of the Obv channel by the Obv line in the Obv window. This point we have to be very clear on.
yes, i understand that we should look at the obv (and not price) for the break. but for what i read a valid break in this system is not a close! as long as the OBV goes above the channel it's an entry. obviously here we can't see where the obv went, just the close. but i can tell you that it went above the line.

idea: OBV with a candle like formation instead of a line showing only close? it would be great for backtesting...
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  • #2,197
  • Dec 11, 2013 9:37am Dec 11, 2013 9:37am
great work, C!

i need to change my mindset for "shorter" trades... i am always looking for entries for longer runs...
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  • #2,198
  • Dec 11, 2013 9:49am Dec 11, 2013 9:49am
Quoting wannaberich
{quote} but i can tell you that it went above the line.
Was worried you might have missed the idea but what was I thinking??? Silly me.

Then I agree with you the 1st one was valid but did not work out. 2nd still does not look valid to me but as you've rightly pointed out I'm only looking at the aftermath of what has happened. Glad to see you here
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  • #2,199
  • Dec 11, 2013 9:58am Dec 11, 2013 9:58am
Quoting cfdtaleong
{quote} Was worried you might have missed the idea but what was I thinking??? Silly me. Then I agree with you the 1st one was valid but did not work out. 2nd still does not look valid to me but as you've rightly pointed out I'm only looking at the aftermath of what has happened. Glad to see you here
u seem to be getting the hang of it much faster than i am i need to get my sls and tps straight for this method...

i see you're using normalized volume instead of trend. is this correct?
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  • #2,200
  • Dec 11, 2013 10:07am Dec 11, 2013 10:07am
Quoting wannaberich
{quote} u seem to be getting the hang of it much faster than i am i need to get my sls and tps straight for this method... i see you're using normalized volume instead of trend. is this correct?
Yes, largely because of post 1058 on page 53. I find the method easier for me to set the Obv channels.
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