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  • #29,661
  • Dec 3, 2013 10:00pm Dec 3, 2013 10:00pm
I am also a newbie here but my feel is that Gold will go down
  • #29,662
  • Dec 3, 2013 10:02pm Dec 3, 2013 10:02pm
Quoting Pip Anon
{quote} Thanks Venzen! To me, gold and silver hold up really well to technicals. I filter out knee-jerk spikes because the key drivers behind the metals are dying.... until the are revived, it's down hill. Fundamentals hold true over the long run. Until sentiment at the institutional level changes, all else remains the same. Now, US prints good data, then gold retests lows 1179 I believe. I still hold a 1038 Q1 target. Silver is a little tricky because it's just more volatile day-to-day, but I believe a retest of yearly lows are in order. Being...

PA,

I like that analysis - the bigger picture in Gold is really so important and you summarized it well.

Bitcoin is not coming off it's highs and I wonder if it's going to just hold above $1000 from now on? Damn, a few days ago Bitcoin and Gold had the same price tag... of course they're functionally and sentimentally different kettles of fish, but the brief parity is significant - somehow - not sure how exactly! The USD is flirting with overbought highs and (if the inverse correlation holds true) we might see Gold push up for a bit from here - i'm looking at the chart now and it's got that 2-steps-fwd-1-step-back look in PA - but as you say: all things being equal - the Fed holds the reigns.
cryptocurrency everytime
  • #29,663
  • Dec 3, 2013 10:39pm Dec 3, 2013 10:39pm
Quoting venzen
{quote} PA, I like that analysis - the bigger picture in Gold is really so important and you summarized it well. Bitcoin is not coming off it's highs and I wonder if it's going to just hold above $1000 from now on? Damn, a few days ago Bitcoin and Gold had the same price tag... of course they're functionally and sentimentally different kettles of fish, but the brief parity is significant - somehow - not sure how exactly! The USD is flirting with overbought highs and (if the inverse correlation holds true) we might see Gold push up for a bit from...

I am just watching the USD Index now, looking very bullish at the moment, maybe we could see a further drop in gold today. Just a thought.
insideBars==boss
  • #29,664
  • Dec 3, 2013 10:42pm Dec 3, 2013 10:42pm
Hi XTrade,

How are you?
Here is my planning today...

DRT


http://i43.tinypic.com/2w1zhud.png
  • #29,665
  • Dec 3, 2013 11:15pm Dec 3, 2013 11:15pm
Quoting Drentaga
Hi XTrade, How are you? Here is my planning today... DRT {image}
Hey, I have seen a lot of people use that indi you have on your chart, do you mind sharing it do I can check it out?

Cheers
insideBars==boss
  • #29,666
  • Dec 3, 2013 11:35pm Dec 3, 2013 11:35pm
My analysis for the day is gold: Bearish. wait for a retracement and then to short it for the day. Let's see what happens.
You win, you lose. All else is history. The future does not exist.
  • #29,667
  • Dec 3, 2013 11:43pm Dec 3, 2013 11:43pm
Quoting The Rhodie
My analysis for the day is gold: Bearish. wait for a retracement and then to short it for the day. Let's see what happens.
Hardly any sign of retracement these few days. A slight rally will be sold off immediately. The bears must be hungry.
The true fact is market doesn't care, risk mgt is important.
  • #29,668
  • Dec 4, 2013 12:15am Dec 4, 2013 12:15am
Quoting Ssm
{quote} Hardly any sign of retracement these few days. A slight rally will be sold off immediately. The bears must be hungry.
Winter time now = Bears goes hungry. no intention to hibernate....lol...
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  • #29,669
  • Dec 4, 2013 12:36am Dec 4, 2013 12:36am
Quoting The Rhodie
My analysis for the day is gold: Bearish. Wait for a retracement and then to short it for the day. Let's see what happens.
Keep making the mistake of tight stops too early. Made some small losses, but got analysis right so far.
You win, you lose. All else is history. The future does not exist.
  • #29,670
  • Dec 4, 2013 12:49am Dec 4, 2013 12:49am
Quoting The Rhodie
{quote} Keep making the mistake of tight stops too early. Made some small losses, but got analysis right so far.

Trending again. The trend is your friend...........
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  • #29,671
  • Dec 4, 2013 12:51am Dec 4, 2013 12:51am
Quoting The Rhodie
{quote} Keep making the mistake of tight stops too early. Made some small losses, but got analysis right so far.
With the current PA, your SL must be really tight. I couldn't even find a decent retracement to short.
The true fact is market doesn't care, risk mgt is important.
  • #29,672
  • Dec 4, 2013 12:52am Dec 4, 2013 12:52am
Hello traders,

After my elliott wave analysis, I will state, the trend of the day for trading.

Action : Short/Sell, 3 wave degrees downtrend

Type signal : BREAK OUT,conservative
Applies to : Traders
Conservative Target :1186.0223
2nd Target :1197.2791
Wave degree (1st) :Minute
Wave :3
Wave degree (2nd) :Minuette
Wave :3
% signals wave 2 :17.1071
% signals wave 3 :63.5993
% signals wave 4 :5.7542
% signals wave 5 :13.5393
Late Exit Alert :1231.6671
Earlier Exit Alert :1228.2441
  • #29,673
  • Dec 4, 2013 1:32am Dec 4, 2013 1:32am
Quoting Ssm
{quote} With the current PA, your SL must be really tight. I couldn't even find a decent retracement to short.
I'm waiting to see gold test 1219.4 before shorting again. Z scope says that ios a potential consideration, but market is weak, and may not make it there.
You win, you lose. All else is history. The future does not exist.
  • #29,674
  • Dec 4, 2013 2:50am Dec 4, 2013 2:50am
H1 bear flag still in play, this implies large downside risk with 1180 as target. It will only be negated if we go higher than 1226.
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  • #29,675
  • Dec 4, 2013 2:53am Dec 4, 2013 2:53am
I have three charts based on what im confident will play out .....remember the head and shoulder pattern on the daily and its target 1072. All these channels and stochastic are based on fib numbers.
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  • #29,676
  • Dec 4, 2013 2:58am Dec 4, 2013 2:58am
Mates, Sorry I want to ask a question,
Some friends told me that there is some websites can give you the data of the news specially NF before it is release for the public within 60 seconds before like reuters
So I went to reuters.com and I failed to get it

Is that right?????
  • #29,677
  • Dec 4, 2013 3:24am Dec 4, 2013 3:24am
Quoting bugsbunny110
Mates, Sorry I want to ask a question, Some friends told me that there is some websites can give you the data of the news specially NF before it is release for the public within 60 seconds before like reuters So I went to reuters.com and I failed to get it Is that right?????

tell them that you know the site which gives info about prices before an hour )
  • #29,678
  • Dec 4, 2013 3:26am Dec 4, 2013 3:26am
Quoting eugenyk
{quote} tell them that you know the site which gives info about prices before an hour )
hahahaahhaha
nice comment
  • #29,679
  • Dec 4, 2013 3:31am Dec 4, 2013 3:31am
Watch out for the USD announcement today (not that you need warning). Gold has revolved around very symmetrically. I would be very careful here. It looks like a dangeous setup that can go either way and for a big price change.
You win, you lose. All else is history. The future does not exist.
  • #29,680
  • Dec 4, 2013 3:34am Dec 4, 2013 3:34am
I think we will test 1205-1200 level soon.
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