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  • #5,861
  • Nov 20, 2013 1:37pm Nov 20, 2013 1:37pm
Quoting KecoaKecil
{quote} Jameshong start this thread, i do not know his intention. I post here, first i use astrology (interpretation of stars, planets, moon) and the title of this thread match what i am doing. Its forbidden in Islam (my teacher told me). But when i tell him, i find the planets has some truth in predicting the move, she said "As you use your knowledge of moon position to know when to start fasting, and when to end it, its not forbidden if you can relate this cycle to price. But do not interpret, use it as it is, like you use interest rate number...
- I think Astronomy is forbidden, but Astrology isn't in Islam.

- In fact, we have a Surat in the Holy Qur'an named The Big Stars. Isn't it simply encouraging?

- And I quote "I've learned never to close my mind to an idea simply because it seems miraculous"

- As above, so below.

- Regards.
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  • #5,862
  • Edited 2:47pm Nov 20, 2013 1:51pm | Edited 2:47pm
Quoting forexvegan
What is this thread about? I don't mean to sound naive or ignorant but I am just curious. So you base your trades on where the star, sun (I know it's a star), moon, planets are positioned, and take a trade? If the stars line up correctly than you will take a trade? Again I am very serious about asking my questions, just want to know if this is how you trade? Do you use cards like the ones they have when you have your fortune is read to help you? Just curious what is your religion? Islam? I know this has nothing to do with it, just curious. Have...

In general there is a correlation between a planetary position or an angle between two or more planetary body and markets (different relationships for every market). When looking at angles between planets some angles have more importance then others and have special name (e.g. 0 degree conjunction, 180 degrees opposition, 120 degree trine etc.) and astrologically it is believed that these angles creates more energy then usual. There are different positions depending from where you look (geocentric , heliocentric) to and to where you look (longitude, latitude, declination, right ascension etc.) It is believed that from these correlations and relationships some future market moves are possible to be predicted.

One Example from my observation. Every time moon ingres in (enters) astrological sign of Virgo USD/JPY market makes a bottom (or on inverted cycles a top)
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  • #5,863
  • Nov 20, 2013 6:23pm Nov 20, 2013 6:23pm
Quoting Ziko9o8
{quote} - I think Astronomy is forbidden, but Astrology isn't in Islam. - In fact, we have a Surat in the Holy Qur'an named The Big Stars. Isn't it simply encouraging? - And I quote "I've learned never to close my mind to an idea simply because it seems miraculous" - As above, so below. - Regards. {image}
dude, im not to try against anything..
i think we should keep religion discussion away from the thread. it's up to each person decision.

btw just want to make it straight,
bone reading, throwing bone/ rock reading etc...it's not forbidden unless you violate certain limit.
which the limit itself is already clear. multi God (in faith). futuretelling. gambling.

make money like honest merchant, buy at cheap, sell at expensive but affordable with money management and no sl tp 20 pips
that 100 % halal even if MC. coz merchant could go bankrupt too.
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  • #5,864
  • Nov 21, 2013 12:20am Nov 21, 2013 12:20am
We almost reach week end. May the green pips with you. For today, we have Pluto Careful, some pullback can happen. Venus near Saturn always mark good economy, so eur can have heartwarming news. Long term its bearish till end of this month. I wish you all good luck.
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  • #5,865
  • Nov 21, 2013 7:57pm Nov 21, 2013 7:57pm
I think the retrace is complete. 50% fibo is the key. I draw a nice trendline. What worry me, if 50% fib break, we can have a up move, which invalidate my bear bias. I put buy stop @50% fibo 1.3487, as life saver. Long term forecast bearish, short term there is Jupiter conjunction moon. For all my haters (actually i like you all, please don't stop criticize me) I shall stop using interpretation / divination. But here simple rule:
Everytime my indicator show conjunction (blue) or opposition (red): 1. If its in trend, reverse. 2. If its in range bound, play break. 3. Not clear direction? no trade. I wish you all profit, and if you like it, voucher for me?
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  • #5,866
  • Nov 22, 2013 1:08am Nov 22, 2013 1:08am
Looks like i was wrong. Oh well, i hedge, so long friend, must sleep before week end party ..
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  • #5,867
  • Nov 22, 2013 1:52pm Nov 22, 2013 1:52pm
I think its done. All my model forecast did not fit for this high rate. Rather disappoint with it. Although my hedge work, its not total loss.
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  • #5,868
  • Nov 23, 2013 12:52pm Nov 23, 2013 12:52pm
Quoting KecoaKecil
We almost reach week end. May the green pips with you. For today, we have Pluto Careful, some pullback can happen. Venus near Saturn always mark good economy, so eur can have heartwarming news. Long term its bearish till end of this month. I wish you all good luck. {image} {image}

Wonderful EU Forecast chart... can you post a link where I can find it online?
  • #5,869
  • Nov 25, 2013 3:00am Nov 25, 2013 3:00am
Quoting jnevins
{quote} Wonderful EU Forecast chart... can you post a link where I can find it online?
I upload the excel file. Extract the excel and the dll into the same directory. The purpose of dll is to create custom function in excel for astronomy function.
For forecast model, I use Alyuda ForecasterXL trial version. Feel free to use other, my prof suggesting using MathLab polinomial solver, fourier transform, or numerical method. NeuroXL can be used to, and have a similar result.
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  • #5,870
  • Nov 25, 2013 8:37am Nov 25, 2013 8:37am
Should have post this @ Asia Session, now kind of too late.
What i am trying to do here, is make forecast on daily basis. Base on Sin(longitude), and Neural Network. Open-High-Low-Close.. This picture for today up to friday, but i think the deviation will be too large. Better take on daily basis. Tomorrow morning (asia) then.
By the way, Neptune is on the way, i dare not trade, as usually it bounce. (Please take this only second opinion, for i still have no confidence of the accuracy).
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  • #5,871
  • Nov 25, 2013 8:38pm Nov 25, 2013 8:38pm
I hope its not too late. ^_^ neptunus bounce so up bias till, 1,3590 ? then 1,3428 .. personally, that kind of move unlikely without big news.
This is just forecast, hope it will come close, but do not depend on it (if "highly paid leading economists" can be wrong, who am i to never wrong?). Happy hunting.
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  • #5,872
  • Nov 25, 2013 8:42pm Nov 25, 2013 8:42pm
Quoting KecoaKecil
I hope its not too late. ^_^ neptunus bounce so up bias till, 1,3590 ? then 1,3428 .. personally, that kind of move unlikely without big news. This is just forecast, hope it will come close, but do not depend on it (if "highly paid leading economists" can be wrong, who am i to never wrong?). Happy hunting. {image}

time frame besar akurat ga bos?
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  • #5,873
  • Nov 25, 2013 8:48pm Nov 25, 2013 8:48pm
Quoting ud1nh0
{quote} time frame besar akurat ga bos?
This base on D1 time frame. So, i try to forecast daily movement.
Bahasa: Secara teori, W1 (minggu) M1 (bulan) time frame lebih akurat. Tapi bagaimana membuktikannya? butuh waktu bulanan, baru bisa pasti modelnya benar.
English: Base on theory, W1 and M1 time frame yield better accuracy. But, it take months to validate the model.
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  • #5,874
  • Nov 25, 2013 9:13pm Nov 25, 2013 9:13pm
Quoting KecoaKecil
{quote} This base on D1 time frame. So, i try to forecast daily movement. Bahasa: Secara teori, W1 (minggu) M1 (bulan) time frame lebih akurat. Tapi bagaimana membuktikannya? butuh waktu bulanan, baru bisa pasti modelnya benar. English: Base on theory, W1 and M1 time frame yield better accuracy. But, it take months to validate the model.

kayaknya bakal dalem dan lama ini bos ( walo mau bikin new high ato ga 1.3830) minim make retrace dari low high 2024 ke current high ato make yg dari 1.60 ke 2024
aku ralat....tuh dibawah naik A besar keknya, B besar kebawah
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  • #5,875
  • Nov 25, 2013 9:14pm Nov 25, 2013 9:14pm
Quoting KecoaKecil
{quote} This base on D1 time frame. So, i try to forecast daily movement. Bahasa: Secara teori, W1 (minggu) M1 (bulan) time frame lebih akurat. Tapi bagaimana membuktikannya? butuh waktu bulanan, baru bisa pasti modelnya benar. English: Base on theory, W1 and M1 time frame yield better accuracy. But, it take months to validate the model.

ralat. retrace doang keknya dari 2042 ke atas 38
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  • #5,876
  • Nov 25, 2013 10:05pm Nov 25, 2013 10:05pm
Quoting ud1nh0
{quote} ralat. retrace doang keknya dari 2042 ke atas 38
Ya, memang gak bisa 100% tepat sih. Saya cuma mencoba model forecast, yang mungkin bisa membantu. Dari pengalaman sih, Price Action nya seperti yang Mas Udin tulis.
Ada gak thread untuk indo trader di sini? saya mau join. Biar kita lancar komunikasinya.
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  • #5,877
  • Nov 25, 2013 10:08pm Nov 25, 2013 10:08pm
Quoting KecoaKecil
{quote} Ya, memang gak bisa 100% tepat sih. Saya cuma mencoba model forecast, yang mungkin bisa membantu. Dari pengalaman sih, Price Action nya seperti yang Mas Udin tulis. Ada gak thread untuk indo trader di sini? saya mau join. Biar kita lancar komunikasinya.

ada kemaren keknya pas ente nanya, dijawab ama orang di trit eur/usd
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  • #5,878
  • Nov 25, 2013 10:21pm Nov 25, 2013 10:21pm
Quoting KecoaKecil
{quote} I upload the excel file. Extract the excel and the dll into the same directory. The purpose of dll is to create custom function in excel for astronomy function. For forecast model, I use Alyuda ForecasterXL trial version. Feel free to use other, my prof suggesting using MathLab polinomial solver, fourier transform, or numerical method. NeuroXL can be used to, and have a similar result. {file} {file}
Thanks very much!
  • #5,879
  • Nov 26, 2013 1:04am Nov 26, 2013 1:04am
Hi KecoaKecil

I am also a fan of astro techniques for trading and so far its elusive. Not even a 10% correct forecast can be made. I saw your excel file from the above post. Have a few questions though:

1.
Moon
Sun
Merc
Venus
Mars
18.07109
188.2204
203.2548
147.3436
235.6863
30.28522
189.2035
204.7978
148.5015
236.3854

Are the vales of moon, sun, etc the angle on that day?

2. Are you trying to predict the close?
3. What are the inputs, the planets, or angle difference between planets, like sun-moon,

A little bit more explanation will help me to understand the excel file and its forecast.
  • #5,880
  • Nov 26, 2013 3:19am Nov 26, 2013 3:19am
Quoting kesk
Hi KecoaKecil I am also a fan of astro techniques for trading and so far its elusive. Not even a 10% correct forecast can be made. I saw your excel file from the above post. Have a few questions though: 1. Moon Sun Merc Venus Mars 18.07109 188.2204 203.2548 147.3436 235.6863 30.28522 189.2035 204.7978 148.5015 236.3854 Are the vales of moon, sun, etc the angle on that day? 2. Are you trying to predict the close? 3. What are the inputs, the planets, or angle difference between planets, like sun-moon,...
Hi kesk, its longitude from geocentric at the date (angle 00:00 hour). From there I construct a Neural Network model with all the 10 input (Moon, sun, merc, etc)
Then, i use the model to forecast at any later date. Several combination, like moon vs other planet and sun vs other planet (the absolute difference of longitude .. maximum 180 degree /opposition and minimum 0 degree/conjunction) from there again a NN model with all the input and closing price as output.
Just a bit of reminding, today we have midpoint Neptune .. Mars. And historically, we see some spike there.

If you notice, I try to do forecast on daily basis for OHLC (Open High Low Close) of next day EU rate. That different model, I use Sin(degree) of the Moon,Sun, Merc, Venus, etc. Using NN (4 output forecast) to form the next day candle. I hope it works.
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