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  • #321
  • May 31, 2013 5:20pm May 31, 2013 5:20pm
Quoting Alfredo
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Hi Alfredo...those are pretty good, yeah, post more of those moves. What type of orders do you place? what time frame are those ?

I know it's about the pips at the end. I am not trading the system right now so I cannot really post pip counts. I can only speculate with you and probably on bigger charts.

But here with the system from late Feb2013 I took a buy trade and hit my 40 pip target 1 and then price kept moving up for more gains. You can see here...its on the screen.
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  • #322
  • Jul 11, 2013 8:40am Jul 11, 2013 8:40am
Guys,

This is an interesting thread. I have been considering trading with HA bars a lot lately. Why not just trade the H4 or Daily chart - looking only for moves that match the prevailing trend? Wait for a resumption of the trend, enter on the 1st HA bar that appears without a lower wick (for Long entries). Place initial SL below the recent HA reversal candle; trail SL behind each successive HA candle until trade is stopped out. Any thoughts on this?

thanks,

Bry
  • #323
  • Jul 12, 2013 3:37am Jul 12, 2013 3:37am
Hey Bry...yeah, I think it's a good way to go. I am not working with this one anymore...have been working on simplifying my approach, just price action with a 50 ma. Though, I did use this on the dailys and banked a fair amount of pips.

Alfredo may will be working with it, from the thread...though he likes the real low time frames.

(Alfredo...cheers bud, I am sorry I haven't gotten back to you on your ideas...will message you)

Bryan
  • #324
  • Nov 7, 2013 4:41am Nov 7, 2013 4:41am
What is the difference between the version of Heiken Ashi Smoothed with the wick and the version without a wick?

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Keep it simple and trade with the trend
  • #325
  • Nov 7, 2013 2:59pm Nov 7, 2013 2:59pm
Quoting emilnow
What is the difference between the version of Heiken Ashi Smoothed with the wick and the version without a wick? {image}
Great for trending markets! loose it all in ranging ones.
  • #326
  • Nov 7, 2013 3:37pm Nov 7, 2013 3:37pm
Which is the System is used in my trading is FTI_Hama System its similar Heiken Ashi indiactor ,but combination of some other systems to findout the market direction & Exactly predict the Market Breakout !
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  • #327
  • Nov 7, 2013 5:03pm Nov 7, 2013 5:03pm
that "trade made simple" template u use...and youre heiken ashi very lagging you will lose soon
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  • #328
  • Nov 8, 2013 6:12pm Nov 8, 2013 6:12pm
Quoting emilnow
What is the difference between the version of Heiken Ashi Smoothed with the wick and the version without a wick? {image}

Hi Emilnow...the HA smooth with or without the wick is probably the same thing. The wick does not really matter in this case...because the HA smooth really just functions like a moving average. If you are above it you buy, if below you sell. And, trends can be found on any time frame from high to low...just wait for the retracement back into the HA smooth. I used it on the H4 and daily timeframes and it worked ok...but now I trade other styles so it is not so much my thing now.

You can also contact Alfredo from above in the thread...he will have some input.

Bryn
  • #329
  • Nov 9, 2013 8:47am Nov 9, 2013 8:47am
Wow this is the place to come if you want to know about Heiken Ashi. Thanks for all the info I read the whole thread and looking forward to following.
Basically, I use standard Heiken Ashi candles with a 3 & 5 simple moving average crossover and a Heiken Ashi Oscillator, when I'm looking for entries and exits. When the crossover and oscillator line up that's my trigger. I added the Smooth HA since reading this thread and makes a nice addition.

Again thanks to all of you that contributed. Best Wishes and Continued Success
Gp
Nobody ever went broke closing a trade in profit
  • #330
  • Nov 9, 2013 3:31pm Nov 9, 2013 3:31pm
Quoting gp00053
Wow this is the place to come if you want to know about Heiken Ashi. Thanks for all the info I read the whole thread and looking forward to following. Basically, I use standard Heiken Ashi candles with a 3 & 5 simple moving average crossover and a Heiken Ashi Oscillator, when I'm looking for entries and exits. When the crossover and oscillator line up that's my trigger. I added the Smooth HA since reading this thread and makes a nice addition. Again thanks to all of you that contributed. Best Wishes and Continued Success Gp

Cool...glad you like it. I'm thinking to get back to this style on daily charts...buy on dips, sell on pullbacks and never trade against that HA smooth...the HA smooth represents the big money.

cheers,
Bryn
  • #331
  • Nov 9, 2013 6:50pm Nov 9, 2013 6:50pm
Quoting bryn077
{quote} Cool...glad you like it. I'm thinking to get back to this style on daily charts...buy on dips, sell on pullbacks and never trade against that HA smooth...the HA smooth represents the big money. cheers, Bryn
I am going to use it on the 1 hour as a confirmation for triggers and see what happens. For some reason I can't upload screen shots I'm not sure what that's about I'll try again tomorrow and see if it changes.
Have A Good Night
Gp
Nobody ever went broke closing a trade in profit
  • #332
  • Nov 9, 2013 7:11pm Nov 9, 2013 7:11pm
sounds good...if you are not aware, Jing and clip2net are great free softwares you can use to very quickly capture screen shots to post charts and share ideas. I use Jing.

http://www.techsmith.com/jing.html

Bryn
  • #333
  • Nov 9, 2013 9:58pm Nov 9, 2013 9:58pm
Quoting bryn077
sounds good...if you are not aware, Jing and clip2net are great free softwares you can use to very quickly capture screen shots to post charts and share ideas. I use Jing. http://www.techsmith.com/jing.html Bryn
Thank you yes I am aware of Jing, it was a problem with my computer. Good thing my 15 year old knows what he's doing. lol
Have A Good Nigght
Nobody ever went broke closing a trade in profit
  • #334
  • Nov 11, 2013 11:02am Nov 11, 2013 11:02am
First trade using HA Smoothed. I added 2 SMA's and HA Histogram

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  • #335
  • Nov 12, 2013 3:22pm Nov 12, 2013 3:22pm
Quoting gp00053
First trade using HA Smoothed. I added 2 SMA's and HA Histogram {image}

Nice one...yeah, I like to see the MAs pinch like that in a trend...as the market retraces back into the HA smooth. A trader can add to the position in cases like that.

http://screencast.com/t/8D6xWtVLuaf

Bryn
  • #336
  • Nov 12, 2013 4:50pm Nov 12, 2013 4:50pm
Quoting bryn077
{quote} Nice one...yeah, I like to see the MAs pinch like that in a trend...as the market retraces back into the HA smooth. A trader can add to the position in cases like that. http://screencast.com/t/8D6xWtVLuaf Bryn
Ran with the same pair today. Not quite a pinch but did add to my position. Gotta love those days when everything goes your way
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  • #337
  • Nov 18, 2013 3:18am Nov 18, 2013 3:18am
I am new to this forum, however HA crossing HA smoothed looks to have potential.
Having read through all the posts, one of the clearest charts I have seen is that posted by Hugh Briss, post 193.
Hugh, if you are still around, have you pursued this idea please? If so, what progress? If not, I guess it didn't work as well as anticipated.
Thanks.
Robbie.
  • #338
  • Feb 17, 2014 9:34pm Feb 17, 2014 9:34pm
I tried the ha default crossing over the smoothed, with my demo account. Was great when the market was trending but got slaughtered
when it was ranging. If anyone is interested I can post the image.
  • #339
  • Feb 18, 2014 12:43am Feb 18, 2014 12:43am
in the end, this is any other MA system, which works wonders in trending markets, but never will in ranging. So what a trader net at the end of the month if using this system?
  • #340
  • Mar 8, 2014 1:54pm Mar 8, 2014 1:54pm
Haven't you pointed out the obvious Bataviatrade, really ? It's just like guppy trend trading and multiple moving average trading like the rainbow, or whatever. Buy on dips sell on pullbacks...whatever suits the trader. Also, like any trend trading approach...it's not time frame specific...a pair may be ranging on the H4 but trending quite nicely on the 5 minute, for example.

Thanks,
Bryn

@ Maindoor...if you are reading...yeah, post a chart
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