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  • #381
  • Jun 30, 2006 8:24am Jun 30, 2006 8:24am
Ouch -- but you should still be ahead 500 pips or so if you're still using 25/50. I shut mine down yesterday about an hour before FOMC. All open trades were left open and all went to profit. I usually shut it down early Friday and not trade, but since there was a bit of news Thursday night and early this morning I never turned it back on. So I guess I missed a few loosers, but Firebird has a good chance of making up for those by the end of the day.



Quoting Yardie
Yes sure did. It looks like the EA is working as it should. Today been a bad day 0 wins and 4 losses. Which put back my overall record for the week to 33 wins and 11 losses
  • #382
  • Jun 30, 2006 8:34am Jun 30, 2006 8:34am
Hi Guys!

The work on the new Phoenix EA is getting very well! I've seen Firebird made some wrong trades just after a spike. That's why I'm now trying to develop a "Spike Detector" that will be incorporated in Phoenix. It works as follows: when a spike is detected in the last 12 hours (this setting is adjustable) Phoenix will wait until "the storm" calms down and is then allowed to place only sells (if the spike was up) or buys (if the spike was down). Looking at the last 2 days I think this option (together with SafeArea and the adjustable trade times) will be very helpful to prevent Phoenix in going the wrong way.

As soon as Phoenix is ready (patience!) I will open a new thread. Together we can make this Phoenix an EA that can make us some money on the log run!
  • #383
  • Jun 30, 2006 8:52am Jun 30, 2006 8:52am
All,
I think my EA is not working. I had to reboot my PC about 12 hours ago, and there have been 0 trades since. EA is running, but nothing executed. I've closed all my charts, opened new ones, and reattached the EA, but no luck.

Any ideas?
  • #384
  • Jun 30, 2006 9:39am Jun 30, 2006 9:39am
Try deleting the EA and installing a fresh one and see if that helps.

Quoting AlphaPip
All,
I think my EA is not working. I had to reboot my PC about 12 hours ago, and there have been 0 trades since. EA is running, but nothing executed. I've closed all my charts, opened new ones, and reattached the EA, but no luck.

Any ideas?
  • #385
  • Jun 30, 2006 9:44am Jun 30, 2006 9:44am
Well 33 x 25 = 825
11 x 50 = 550
825 - 550 = 275 net pips. This is still good in my book.

I want to see how the EA performs over time in all conditions and I think allowing it to run through is the best way to find out.


Quoting BenQ
Ouch -- but you should still be ahead 500 pips or so if you're still using 25/50. I shut mine down yesterday about an hour before FOMC. All open trades were left open and all went to profit. I usually shut it down early Friday and not trade, but since there was a bit of news Thursday night and early this morning I never turned it back on. So I guess I missed a few loosers, but Firebird has a good chance of making up for those by the end of the day.
  • #386
  • Jun 30, 2006 12:22pm Jun 30, 2006 12:22pm
oops -- I guess I should have just done the math . Still good though. Have a great weekend!



Quoting Yardie
Well 33 x 25 = 825
11 x 50 = 550
825 - 550 = 275 net pips. This is still good in my book.

I want to see how the EA performs over time in all conditions and I think allowing it to run through is the best way to find out.
  • #387
  • Jun 30, 2006 2:33pm Jun 30, 2006 2:33pm
Well got another loss so 0-5 today and 225 net pips on the week. Good thing I started at the beginning of the week and not the end of the week otherwise things wouldnt be pretty right now.

Quoting BenQ
oops -- I guess I should have just done the math . Still good though. Have a great weekend!
  • #388
  • Jun 30, 2006 3:06pm Jun 30, 2006 3:06pm
That's really unusual to go 0-5. Maybe just Friday blahs. 4th of July coming up too -- may be a slow start to the week as well.



Quoting Yardie
Well got another loss so 0-5 today and 225 net pips on the week. Good thing I started at the beginning of the week and not the end of the week otherwise things wouldnt be pretty right now.
  • #389
  • Jul 1, 2006 1:30am Jul 1, 2006 1:30am
Here you can see the difference in behaviour between Phoenix and Firebird for the USDCHF when things are getting rough:

Firebird was placing 3 BUYS, all stopped out.
Phoenix is waiting for the right moment, made 3 SELLS which all hit the TP.

Nice?
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  • #390
  • Jul 1, 2006 2:07am Jul 1, 2006 2:07am
Hendrick,

I have got to hand it too you - you've turned an EA that was more than 50% account imploder - into something with great promiss. I'm glad that the collective in this thread has seen the light - averaging up is much better than averaging down - especially in a strong trend! Of course Firebird is great the way it was in choppy markets.... now you may have the best of both worlds

And seeing as I'm no programmer - I'm glad that someone was able to make it happen!

Congrats and great job on all the hard work and not giving up - I'll be honest - there's no doubt that I would not have been able to program those ideas.

  • #391
  • Jul 1, 2006 2:13am Jul 1, 2006 2:13am
As you can see on the chart for the USDCHF for the last week Firebird is doing very well in a range bound market. As the markets becomes trending Firebird is very often making the wrong decisions. So the solution for this can be very simple: we have to get out as soon as the marker becomes trending and come back when the range bound market is restored.

In Phoenix there is a piece of code that's looking after these changes. In short it takes the Highs of the last 24, 12, 6 and 2 hours and can decide when the market becomes trending and when the range bound market is restored.
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  • #392
  • Jul 1, 2006 2:25am Jul 1, 2006 2:25am
Quoting lonespruce
Hendrick,

I have got to hand it too you - you've turned an EA that was more than 50% account imploder - into something with great promiss. I'm glad that the collective in this thread has seen the light - averaging up is much better than averaging down - especially in a strong trend! Of course Firebird is great the way it was in choppy markets.... now you may have the best of both worlds

And seeing as I'm no programmer - I'm glad that someone was able to make it happen!

Congrats and great job on all the hard work and not giving up - I'll be honest - there's no doubt that I would not have been able to program those ideas.

Thanks lonespruce!

Your message gives me the right spirit to continue the work. With the support of all these nice people in this thread I'm sure we will have an EA in the end that will do its job: making us money.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>
  • #393
  • Jul 1, 2006 4:53am Jul 1, 2006 4:53am
Hi there
Can some one atach the EA expert with the new firebird formula added , because i have tried to add the formula into the script but it was unseccessful try . I need to test both experts starting next week , i have tried the firebird end of last week but the market seems to be trending and that why couldn't juje the results , Any ideas about a useful tol to detect the change in the market situation from trending to a ranging market ?
  • #394
  • Jul 1, 2006 7:01am Jul 1, 2006 7:01am
Hendrick,
I'd like to run some side by side comparisons this coming week. Can the SafeArea function in your new version be turned off or disabled?
  • #395
  • Jul 1, 2006 8:07am Jul 1, 2006 8:07am
Good comparison Hendrick. But it would have been interesting to see how the G version of Firebird with the Safe Area perform vis a vis the new Phoenix. Although I think the Phoenix idea of making money in the trend is a nice one. When do you think it will be released? I am dying to start testing it.



Quoting Hendrick
Here you can see the difference in behaviour between Phoenix and Firebird for the USDCHF when things are getting rough:

Firebird was placing 3 BUYS, all stopped out.
Phoenix is waiting for the right moment, made 3 SELLS which all hit the TP.

Nice?
  • #396
  • Jul 1, 2006 9:59am Jul 1, 2006 9:59am
Quoting BenQ
Hendrick,
I'd like to run some side by side comparisons this coming week. Can the SafeArea function in your new version be turned off or disabled?
Hi Ben,

The maximum value of SafeArea is 100. So if you use this value it will be the same as disabeling this function.
  • #397
  • Jul 1, 2006 10:00am Jul 1, 2006 10:00am
Quoting Yardie
Good comparison Hendrick. But it would have been interesting to see how the G version of Firebird with the Safe Area perform vis a vis the new Phoenix. Although I think the Phoenix idea of making money in the trend is a nice one. When do you think it will be released? I am dying to start testing it.
Hi Yardie,

I realy need to do some testing on Firebird. I think 2 weeks and it's ready to launch.
  • #398
  • Jul 1, 2006 1:31pm Jul 1, 2006 1:31pm
Quoting Hendrick
Hi Yardie,

I realy need to do some testing on Firebird. I think 2 weeks and it's ready to launch.
Hi Hendrick
Are you using the latest firebirdH3 with another indicator? i'm welling to test the uptodate version that you have , in your previous reply you were sying its going to be ready in 2 weeks where you going to launch the latest version ?
  • #399
  • Jul 1, 2006 4:35pm Jul 1, 2006 4:35pm
Hendrick, looking at your SafeArea indicator, does this quote simply mean that when the indicator is outside of the 40/-40 channel trades are not initiated, is that how it works? Thx
Quoting Hendrick

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  • #400
  • Jul 1, 2006 7:15pm Jul 1, 2006 7:15pm
Did any body hear about using that indicator ''linear regression'' searching another form i have found that programmed and it seems that its useful , any idea on how to use it ? i have got the code in case any one needs it

Thanks
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