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  • #42,761
  • Sep 7, 2013 11:03am Sep 7, 2013 11:03am
Quoting fti
{quote} ic. ok , think and grow. reading cannot grow. still need think. many peeps read and grow lazy. mostly forgot they can think. regards
very true, fti!
sadly, most of the time power of thinking, contemplation is neglected.
As Above, So Below
  • #42,762
  • Sep 8, 2013 4:42am Sep 8, 2013 4:42am
Quoting -Michael-
{quote} Excellent that fever down means you on right track Understanding is rather simple of it than implementing it . I am reading curently Napoleon Hill book dont know if you familiar Called "think and Grow Rich " very interesting . The books talks about many examples of people that implemented in life a formula that made them wealthy. and it is not just in material way its based on a 13 principles 1. Desire 2. Faith 3. Auto-Suggestion 4. Specialized Knowledge 5. Imagination 6. Organized Planning 7. Decision 8. Persistence 9. Power...
Subconscious training... Very Powerful stuff.. Hard to trust anyone selling books though.

I used to subscribe to NH years ago now, I distinctly remember one exercise where you would get comfortable and shut with your eyes closed for a while and imagine a blackboard, and on that black board you would write with your chalk all the negative words like greed, fear, anger, pain, etc etc, and "scrub them out" and then on the blank "black board" write all the positive words: Peace, Love, Friends, sex, desire, happiness, etc etc... and just (still with your eyes closed.. Stare at them for an extended period...

Anyway... i did this a little while and immediately noticed positive effects on my life (this was a long time ago now).. Anyway, very powerful; stuff...fti may disagree
Time hides Nothing
  • #42,763
  • Sep 8, 2013 4:43am Sep 8, 2013 4:43am
Quoting fti
{quote} nice take sometime, get settled in new environment. then after that lots more swashbuckling in markets. make sure your boys a ok , they naughty , you tell them. hey i am watching you. have a house warming party, get to know the neighbours would be nice. regards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtWBlDC2-ss

That made me chuckle fti!
Time hides Nothing
  • #42,764
  • Sep 8, 2013 5:04am Sep 8, 2013 5:04am
Quoting appleboy
{quote} dear fti, yes yes, pls see an experienced doctor. health aint something to be gambled upon. well wishes and prayers for your health. best regards.
noted.

regards
  • #42,765
  • Sep 8, 2013 5:10am Sep 8, 2013 5:10am
Quoting drzakir123
{quote} better u see a doctor,with u heart very weak and I think ur diabetic as well,its very important that infection is treated otherwise it doesn't take much for things to turn nasty and in ur case very serious.regards
Yes , dr,
I and mom monitoring.
if this fever persist , i will need get some help fast.
For now , is coming and going, so body still fighter.

i not very like get wired up all over. very uncomfortable.
so i give body chance fight the intruders.
anyway the oxygen is helping, 1 tube on me i can live with.

you very clever dr, yes i also suspect is the sugar levels.
so i on very simple green diet trying ride thru slowly with much resting.

Thank you sir , your advicement is noted.


regards
  • #42,766
  • Sep 8, 2013 5:11am Sep 8, 2013 5:11am
Quoting tashkent
{quote} very true, fti! sadly, most of the time power of thinking, contemplation is neglected.
yes, seems you understand.

regards
  • #42,767
  • Sep 8, 2013 5:19am Sep 8, 2013 5:19am
Quoting CindyXXXX
{quote} Subconscious training... Very Powerful stuff.. Hard to trust anyone selling books though. I used to subscribe to NH years ago now, I distinctly remember one exercise where you would get comfortable and shut with your eyes closed for a while and imagine a blackboard, and on that black board you would write with your chalk all the negative words like greed, fear, anger, pain, etc etc, and "scrub them out" and then on the blank "black board" write all the positive words: Peace, Love, Friends, sex, desire, happiness, etc etc... and just...
i c , you have trained mind. maybe is your body is naughty cause your mind so much distress.
yes powerful stuff to those who uses it. Not really for most who like read, they become very knowledgable, but to what end

i like know if you been thru mind conditioning , why you not seem able internalise anything?
NH didn't ask for you trust him.
He organised stuff, sell to you , he gets $ you get development of mind. i don't think he lying to you, but if you cannot benefit from what he presents, is not his fault. Is yours.

Why would i want disagree with knowledge?
What i said, was that reading it not gains much benefit, is only when you use it.
Anyway The title is think and grow, Not read and grow.....

regards

Oh may i suggest, you take some reading and comprehension lessons. I think there many classes all over the world.
also may like, tash suggested, also contemplation lessons organise your mind, since you cannot gain anything from meditation.
I suggest this for you in the nicest sense, but if you not like how i said , is not my problem , is yours.
  • #42,768
  • Sep 8, 2013 5:25am Sep 8, 2013 5:25am
Quoting fti
{quote} i c , you have trained mind. maybe is your body is naughty cause your mind so much distress. yes powerful stuff to those who uses it. Not really for most who like read, they become very knowledgable, but to what end i like know if you been thru mind conditioning , why you not seem able internalise anything? NH didn't ask for you trust him. He organised stuff, sell to you , he gets $ you get development of mind. i don't think he lying to you, but if you cannot benefit from what he presents, is not his fault. Is yours. Why...
You make a lot of assumptions in that fti

1) you assume I think I have mastered my mind (I haven't, and I don't)
2) That I gave him money (I didn't)

For the short term I used it I saw results. That's all I said..

I think you're referring to DOING rather than THINKING... 100% agree... Takes will power and the right attitude
Do I have this? probably not.. But admitting it is the first step.

Hope you're feeling better anyway..
Time hides Nothing
  • #42,769
  • Edited 5:50am Sep 8, 2013 5:37am | Edited 5:50am
Quoting CindyXXXX
{quote} You make a lot of assumptions in that fti 1) you assume I think I have mastered my mind (I haven't, and I don't) 2) That I gave him money (I didn't) For the short term I used it I saw results. That's all I said.. I think you're referring to DOING rather than THINKING... 100% agree... Takes will power and the right attitude Do I have this? probably not.. But admitting it is the first step. Hope you're feeling better anyway..
you can see what i trying tell you?

get lessons , may help , really.
long time ago, and still baby steps. I think you, not have follow thru la.
i think is called procrastination and you can give me all the excuse you like.

yes, i feel better, thank you , otheriwse i would not reply you. Drained some good energy. worth it or not , will depends.
i waiting for night fall now, see if fever comes back.

regards

oh by the way , the last time you posted "kill em all" .
if we all dead , i guess no one will be able help you already.
so may be also read the book , think before kill them all.
ai ya no one wrote that yet.
ok lets see if we can start a project on that.
  • #42,770
  • Sep 8, 2013 5:46am Sep 8, 2013 5:46am
Quoting fti
{quote} you can see what i trying tell you? get lessons , may help , really. long time ago, and still baby steps. I think you, not have follow thru la. i think is called procrastination and you can give me all the excuse you like. yes, i feel better, thank you , otheriwse i would not reply you. Drained some good energy. worth it or not , will depends. i waiting for night fall now, see if fever comes back. regards
Follow thru what exactly? I follow no one.. No offense..
Time enjoyed wasted is not wasted time <<< Good excuse I guess.

I have no time to work out your cryptic messages unfortunately because I would really like to.. I just come on FF when I'm bored so often I'm caught in the wrong head space. I hope this doesn't offend you, but the whole "sensai with wooden cane thing" I could only take seriously with a real life scenario. I'm Australian, beer drinking, beech loving Australian.. You and me are different worlds and I'm sorry that we clash..

It would be strange of me to buy into your culture, as it's just not me. I'm sorry. You're the only one around here making any sense though these days, so keep up the good work.

Hopefully I haven't offended, as I often (unintentionally) do.
Time hides Nothing
  • #42,771
  • Sep 8, 2013 5:57am Sep 8, 2013 5:57am
Quoting fti
{quote} i c , you have trained mind. maybe is your body is naughty cause your mind so much distress. yes powerful stuff to those who uses it. Not really for most who like read, they become very knowledgable, but to what end i like know if you been thr.
I think I read that book think and grow rich in 1989,it seems to work but I think that's becos one is very young and very motivated to do well anyway,so obviously this stuff of positive thinking seems to working but reality may not be so.
My issue with this sort of positive thinking is it makes one very complacent and one come to assume that if one think positively one will be success and no need of working hard.recent research come to the conclusion that slightly a negative view of oneself is much more helpful in once growth than the positive thinking,becos it push one to work harder and improve oneself.
lately I comes to the view that the best approach is not having any view about oneself,just do whats right and takes things as they come and respond,for me in religious terms submitting to the will of God,heaven,or what tao call nonaction.ie maintain once poise(=mindset) so that one don't tilt to any extreme of positive or negative and respond to the situation demand.
Allah has permitted trade and has forbidden interest [koran]
  • #42,772
  • Sep 8, 2013 6:36am Sep 8, 2013 6:36am
Quoting fti
have you watched 3 kingdoms yet? what the difference between dong zhou and cao cao?

hi Fti,
i just realize three kingdoms is "samkok" story?
i don't know if it's true (three kingdoms = samkok ??), but these story very popular in the past.
i remember when i was a child my uncle have lot book collection series of this story.

i have just watched four episode of three kingdoms.
cao cao have vision, insight, and clever.. but lack of tact, hence he will cut off all of odds no matter in the right or bad way.

i think dong zhou doesn't have any vision as leader.
he is just a dumb luck who grab giant opportunity that lies in his hand,
so that he use ruthlessness in order to hold his position.
steady as she goes
  • #42,773
  • Sep 8, 2013 6:39am Sep 8, 2013 6:39am
Quoting drzakir123
{quote} I think I read that book think and grow rich in 1989,it seems to work but I think that's becos one is very young and very motivated to do well anyway,so obviously this stuff of positive thinking seems to working but reality may not be so. My issue with this sort of positive thinking is it makes one very complacent and one come to assume that if one think positively one will be success and no need of working hard.recent research come to the conclusion that slightly a negative view of oneself is much more helpful in once growth than the positive...

hi dr.. i'm agree in part of your opinion

i had read the book too, a year ago.. good stuff.
i like NH tells about people achieving their goal, it was boosting up my motivation.

what i realise now is.. sometimes we have not necessary programming our subconscious mind, if we want achieving our goals bad enough.
(and it is impossible to programming if we won't it )

as adage, "if there is a will, there is a way."
so, i just give life a chance to test the depth of my faith and my desire.
steady as she goes
  • #42,774
  • Sep 8, 2013 8:29am Sep 8, 2013 8:29am
Your subconscious protects you from physical and emotional pain. It's a reflex action or autopilot that is like a zombie, just reacting as you've taught it to.

Simple example.. If you see a little girl walk in from of your car, no thought is required your subconscious will step in and just hit the breaks,, As it has envisioned such a scenario before and knows what to do to protect you from the emotional pain that would be caused by running over a little girl in your car.

In other words, this reaction is pre programmed and entwined in he back of your mind.. I could go on and on but fti would not like this, and I need to respect that.

Subconscious training is just about your Conscious mind communicating with your zombie "unconscious mind" about what you would REALLY like to be.. About taking out the trash and replacing "out dated" norms, with new norms. Your mind is a computer really... I need to stop now =)
Time hides Nothing
  • #42,775
  • Sep 8, 2013 9:39am Sep 8, 2013 9:39am
Quoting CindyXXXX
Your subconscious protects you from physical and emotional pain. It's a reflex action or autopilot that is like a zombie, just reacting as you've taught it to. Simple example.. If you see a little girl walk in from of your car, no thought is required your subconscious will step in and just hit the breaks,, As it has envisioned such a scenario before and knows what to do to protect you from the emotional pain that would be caused by running over a little girl in your car. In other words, this reaction is pre programmed and entwined in he back of...

i've almost forget that part..
yes, i agree.

i'm concerning on burning desire.
i like when i have vision about my future plan.
when i want "something" bad enough, it automatically depicts on my head.
no programming required. i have faith on myself and focus.

only when the other thing ruin my mind,
such noise which could violated my course plan.
then re-programming required. sometime through meditate and pray.

oh, maybe i should stop too.. sorry guys. :=)
steady as she goes
  • #42,776
  • Sep 8, 2013 10:43am Sep 8, 2013 10:43am
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.
if there is something you should keep secret,simply just save it,, so, just
  • #42,777
  • Sep 8, 2013 10:57am Sep 8, 2013 10:57am
Quoting sandycarrot
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.
If I am walking with two other men, each of them will serve as my teacher. I will pick out the good points of the one and imitate them, and the bad points of the other and correct them in myself.
if there is something you should keep secret,simply just save it,, so, just
  • #42,778
  • Sep 8, 2013 11:03am Sep 8, 2013 11:03am
Quoting sandycarrot
{quote} If I am walking with two other men, each of them will serve as my teacher. I will pick out the good points of the one and imitate them, and the bad points of the other and correct them in myself.
I'd just kick them both in the balls and steal their wallets =P
Time hides Nothing
  • #42,779
  • Sep 8, 2013 11:16am Sep 8, 2013 11:16am
Quoting CindyXXXX
{quote} I'd just kick them both in the balls and steal their wallets =P

ha,ha,
if there is something you should keep secret,simply just save it,, so, just
  • #42,780
  • Sep 8, 2013 11:44am Sep 8, 2013 11:44am
He who learns but does not think, is lost! He who thinks but does not learn is in great danger.

goodnight all
if there is something you should keep secret,simply just save it,, so, just
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