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  • #6,881
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:30am Sep 6, 2013 5:30am
Quoting milam
{quote} YES, next time I will come, can we bring girls? you know the fresh air makes me horny. If there are not allowed maybe I can bring a sheep or a pumping? Pip are you coming?

He is neither a girl nor a sheep

Or is there something I do not know????
  • #6,882
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:32am Sep 6, 2013 5:32am
Quoting Sober_Colm
My 2 cent. Syria is being used to get Iran involved. If they can ensure Iranian oil is denominated in USD then the Petrodollar can continue until the oil runs out. They just need to rightly screw up Iran first, which is what this is all about really. Using the democracy/ religion/ flying pigs as a cover works just great. Oil spike: good for oil producing countries. Good for USD (hoarding USD to buy oil). Long protracted oil-region war that keeps oil prices high for a long period & thus affects world economy, bad for oil producers. Good for USD (risk-on,...

not sure about your logic for the following reason:

iran is a producer of crude,
but iran itself has almost no refining capabilities (they can do low grade fuel derivatives such as bitumen, but thats about it, and lately their bitumen production has dropped to record lows)
iran exports all of its crude, for refining to other countries, and imports petroleum, gasoil, and jetfuel (A1 etc)
everyone knows that the money in oil is in refining/cracking, not pure upstream...
so, without russian/chinese investment in refineries, there is no game changer re pricing its crude in euros (or other bilateral arrangements)... add: such investments take 10+ years to become viable (5+ for construction 5+ for cash flow generation)
US also owns the gulf states (KSA, Kuwait, UAE), who produce c30% of world refined petroleum products + iraq (add 10% to crude, they dont refine much... yet) = c40%
additionally, US has massive proven oil reserves (on and offshore) in addition to MASSIVE gas capabilities (shale and conventional, onshore and offshore)
crude oil, over the next 100 years will become less relevant..

hence i disagree with your assessment and maintain that iran and syria are proxies for something deeper...
90% of people, are wrong about 90% of everything, 90% of the time...
  • #6,883
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:33am Sep 6, 2013 5:33am
Quoting milam
Long term trade, in @ 1.3115, SL 1.3015 Buy stop order @ 1.3165, SL 1.3065.

I read such a trade somewhere this morning. Was a bank, when I remember correct.

In my books 3184 acts as very good resistance.

What makes you take the trade?
  • #6,884
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:34am Sep 6, 2013 5:34am
Quoting theDHT
{quote} not sure about your logic for the following reason: iran is a producer of crude, but iran itself has almost no refining capabilities (they can do low grade fuel derivatives such as bitumen, but thats about it, and lately their bitumen production has dropped to record lows) iran exports all of its crude, for refining to other countries, and imports petroleum, gasoil, and jetfuel (A1 etc) everyone knows that the money in oil is in refining/cracking, not pure upstream... so, without russian/chinese investment in refineries, there is no game...
ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT qatars GAS PIPELINE , RUSSIAS ENEMY FOR GAS SUPPLY , SYRIA IN THE WAY

rUSSIAS ECONOMY DEPENDS ON 40 % OF GAS SUPPLY TO EUROPE , USA AND QATAR TRYING TO TAKE IT
  • #6,885
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:37am Sep 6, 2013 5:37am
Quoting Mad Russian
{quote} ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT qatars GAS PIPELINE , RUSSIAS ENEMY FOR GAS SUPPLY , SYRIA IN THE WAY

sorry mate

qatar does not have a gas pipeline, any gas out of qatar would be routed via Saudi (look at a map), underwater routes are not feasable

their entire economy is built on LNG

look up the following company:

Qatar Gas Transportation Company - NAKILAT (state owned via QP, sole business: delivery of LNG via custom built tankers)
90% of people, are wrong about 90% of everything, 90% of the time...
  • #6,886
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:38am Sep 6, 2013 5:38am
Quoting Mad Russian
{quote} ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT qatars GAS PIPELINE , RUSSIAS ENEMY FOR GAS SUPPLY , SYRIA IN THE WAY rUSSIAS ECONOMY DEPENDS ON 40 % OF GAS SUPPLY TO EUROPE , USA AND QATAR TRYING TO TAKE IT

qatar, al qaeda, USA FRIENDS , DONT NEED A HIFHER EDUCATION
  • #6,887
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:38am Sep 6, 2013 5:38am
Quoting Mad Russian
{quote} ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT qatars GAS PIPELINE , RUSSIAS ENEMY FOR GAS SUPPLY , SYRIA IN THE WAY rUSSIAS ECONOMY DEPENDS ON 40 % OF GAS SUPPLY TO EUROPE , USA AND QATAR TRYING TO TAKE IT
Aha... Interesting. I think we are getting somewhere with this. But how do we trade it? Buy USD?
Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it
  • #6,888
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:39am Sep 6, 2013 5:39am
Quoting thedht
{quote} sorry mate qatar does not have a gas pipeline their entire economy is built on lng look up the following company: Qatar gas transportation company - nakilat (state owned via qp, sole business: Delivery of lng via custom built tankers)
they trying to built one , syria in the way
  • #6,889
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:40am Sep 6, 2013 5:40am
Quoting theDHT
{quote} sorry mate qatar does not have a gas pipeline, any gas out of qatar would be routed via Saudi (look at a map), underwater routes are not feasable their entire economy is built on LNG look up the following company: Qatar Gas Transportation Company - NAKILAT (state owned via QP, sole business: delivery of LNG via custom built tankers)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...l-gas-pipeline


read this
  • #6,890
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:40am Sep 6, 2013 5:40am
Quoting theDHT
{quote} sorry mate qatar does not have a gas pipeline, any gas out of qatar would be routed via Saudi (look at a map), underwater routes are not feasable their entire economy is built on LNG look up the following company: Qatar Gas Transportation Company - NAKILAT (state owned via QP, sole business: delivery of LNG via custom built tankers)
I think the point is that Qatar needs a pipeline to get their gas to Europe, but they need to pass it through Syria.
It would be obviously much cheaper to transport via pipeline rather than custom built tankers... in which case it would be able to compete with Russia... and that's why Putin looks worried. He is in a bit of a conflict right now. Investment from Western countries on the one hand and the protection of the Russian gas monopoly on the other
Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it
  • #6,891
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:41am Sep 6, 2013 5:41am
Quoting Mad Russian
{quote} they trying to built one , syria in the way

can you please source an article re this?
90% of people, are wrong about 90% of everything, 90% of the time...
  • #6,892
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:41am Sep 6, 2013 5:41am
Quoting Mad Russian
{quote} 1.306-74 my next region {image}
very good my target 3070
looking for investors . pm me
  • #6,893
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:43am Sep 6, 2013 5:43am
Quoting thedht
{quote} can you please source an article re this?
i will just give me a time please
  • #6,894
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:43am Sep 6, 2013 5:43am
Quoting infinitus
{quote} Even good question is: What is the advantage for the Saudis to get Bassad thrown out?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...ind-syrian-war
  • #6,895
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:44am Sep 6, 2013 5:44am
Quoting PipTrapper
{quote} I think the point is that Qatar needs a pipeline to get their gas to Europe, but they need to pass it through Syria. It would be obviously much cheaper to transport via pipeline rather than custom built tankers... in which case it would be able to compete with Russia... and that's why Putin looks worried. He is in a bit of a conflict right now. Investment from Western countries on the one hand and the protection of the Russian gas monopoly on the other

THATS THE REASON OF WHOLE SHIT WITH syria do you agree ??
  • #6,896
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:45am Sep 6, 2013 5:45am
Quoting infinitus
{quote} http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...ind-syrian-war
thats why they came to Moscow
  • #6,897
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:49am Sep 6, 2013 5:49am
Quoting theDHT
{quote} maintain that iran and syria are proxies for something deeper...
As I said, not quite as simple as I put it but this is a huge issue & probably not for this forum. In short, imo, it's all part of the continued US hegemony game that they have played since WWII (& spoke of even before this).

But, in the here & now & it's affect on currencies...... imo, those behind what's happening now believe the Petrodollar needs to rule (petrodollar vs budget deficit etc) & Iran sits on one of the largest reserves of oil in the world so they say "lets just make it ours". It's a massive producer, regardless of where the oil needs to go to be refined (& that place of refining can be changed while the place of the reserve can't). If you can ensure that the USD controls everything & is seen to control everything then your imperial dominance of the world will certainly be stronger & your minions will think twice about stepping out of line. It's all about control & imo that means long USD in the long term, if everything goes according to their plan of course.
  • #6,898
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:50am Sep 6, 2013 5:50am
ok, im not trying to start a fight but here are the facts:

look at this map:
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facts:
qatars only land border is w KSA, which is owned by US
qatar houses one of the largest US air bases in the world (qatar is owned by the US)
anything underwater would have to go through iran (non option) iraq (owned by US) or kuwait (owned by US)
Qatar is building LNG regassification terminals in southern spain, as well as greece

it is true that Russia owns the land gas route into europe, and qatar and russia have beef over this, but the notion of a pipeline out of qatar into europe is ludacris...
my only point: qatar does not factor into this syrian issue, while it may be true that they fund the rebels, i think thats about as far as their involvement goes (with regard to russia)

just my 2 cents

edit: add to this mix the recent political moves to allow shale E&P in europe... it just doesnt stack up..
90% of people, are wrong about 90% of everything, 90% of the time...
  • #6,899
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:52am Sep 6, 2013 5:52am
Quoting infinitus
{quote} He is neither a girl nor a sheep Or is there something I do not know????
Wherever you go, there you are.
  • #6,900
  • Sep 6, 2013 5:53am Sep 6, 2013 5:53am
Quoting Mad Russian
{quote} THATS THE REASON OF WHOLE SHIT WITH syria do you agree ??
Yes and no. A gas pipeline from Qatar to Europe does not help the US unless it is US companies that will build it.
However, one thing is for sure
Obama made a promise that if Assad used CW against his people, he would take action. So the Saudis, Qatari and Al-Qaeda decided to use that to their advantage and they arranged for the launch of the CW themselves and made it look like Assad did it... All this so the US would unknowingly help the Saudis, Qataris and Al-Qaeda to accomplish their mission.
Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it
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