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  • #42,421
  • Aug 28, 2013 6:37am Aug 28, 2013 6:37am
FTI

Are you sure ?
snowballing and rescuing a position is working for a retail trader ? for a dealer no doubt (based on your experience) , mindset mindset as you already mention .... but my question is: a dealer trading method can be used by retail trader ? ( normally retail trader use leverage ) or its just a mindset issue ?

Thank's in advance for your answer

Redsun
  • #42,422
  • Aug 28, 2013 6:40am Aug 28, 2013 6:40am
Quoting fti
looking at this, i just cannot but feel happy. Thank You so much. {image}
Who couldn't smile at that? Nothing better in the world than happy animals or children laughing.
  • #42,423
  • Aug 28, 2013 7:07am Aug 28, 2013 7:07am
Quoting tubguy
{quote} Who couldn't smile at that? Nothing better in the world than happy animals or children laughing.


regards
  • #42,424
  • Aug 28, 2013 7:08am Aug 28, 2013 7:08am
Quoting Redsunfx
FTI Are you sure ? snowballing and rescuing a position is working for a retail trader ? for a dealer no doubt (based on your experience) , mindset mindset as you already mention .... but my question is: a dealer trading method can be used by retail trader ? ( normally retail trader use leverage ) or its just a mindset issue ? Thank's in advance for your answer Redsun
eeee rrr... What you talking about?

ya, question is many david thinks can kill goliath with a pebble.
me prefer have bucket fulls when opportunity shows, than keep donating for goliath eat .

Is bread good for eating?
is a boat good for sailing?
Can poor people take the same planes as the rich?

regards
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  • #42,425
  • Aug 28, 2013 7:23am Aug 28, 2013 7:23am
Quoting fti
{quote} eeee rrr... What you talking about? ya, question is many david thinks can kill goliath with a pebble. me prefer have bucket fulls when opportunity shows, than keep donating for goliath eat . Is bread good for eating? is a boat good for sailing? Can poor people take the same planes as the rich? regards {image}
lool still mindset issue ..... yes i know ..... here on the forum many people behave as if they are making a lot of pips based on your posts ... but no one with real proof that they really understand and use your way a looking at graph ....just people saying hello and thank's ...

mindset mindset i believe ... you are right ....this is why i'm still not yet ready

redsun
  • #42,426
  • Edited 7:47am Aug 28, 2013 7:29am | Edited 7:47am
Quoting Redsunfx
{quote} lool still mindset issue ..... yes i know ..... here on the forum many people behave as if they are making a lot of pips based on your posts ... but no one with real proof that they really understand and use your way a looking at graph ....just people saying hello and thank's ... mindset mindset i believe ... you are right ....this is why i'm still not yet ready redsun
Huh? where you get that from?
mostly most peeps not even can make 50% per annum of their investments from what i hearing.
but it beats getting accounts busted all the time.

we never ever is ready. we always ready. But we must get the mindset right and skills sets stay fighting alive.
You need walk the learning curve. best you make the mistakes when you small and young.

regards


From what you saying, i gets this feelings , so maybe you should think of this.
In ventures many peeps dares attack when wounded, never when in good stead.
if one trys attack when wounded then chances is death battles.
I only attack when i in good. When wounded i eat humble pie.
but don't try pushing me when i in good, i very skillful deliver my necessaries.
You talking about snowballing.
so i guessing you up ante when wounded.
I never.
Only when have foreign cap.
I get feeling you being rigid.
Normally when ponys learn 1 skill only they 1 trick ponys.
a thinking horse have many many tricks in his bag.

By the way you reading the thread yet?
sorry, i ask because you not seems understand.
  • #42,427
  • Aug 28, 2013 7:39am Aug 28, 2013 7:39am
Quoting Redsunfx
{quote} lool still mindset issue ..... yes i know ..... here on the forum many people behave as if they are making a lot of pips based on your posts ... but no one with real proof that they really understand and use your way a looking at graph ....just people saying hello and thank's ... mindset mindset i believe ... you are right ....this is why i'm still not yet ready redsun
You could always use a demo account and prove it to yourself.

Not trying to be ugly. Just never got the whole "prove it to me and then I will try" thing.

It's free to give any system, style, etc on the forum a whirl.
  • #42,428
  • Aug 28, 2013 8:00am Aug 28, 2013 8:00am
Quoting fti
{quote} Huh? where you get that from? mostly most peeps not even can make 50% per annum of their investments from what i hearing. but it beats getting accounts busted all the time. we never ever is ready. we always ready. But we must get the mindset right and skills sets stay fighting alive. You need walk the learning curve. best you make the mistakes when you small and young. regards From what you saying, i gets this feelings , so maybe you should think of this. In ventures many peeps dares attack when wounded, never when in good stead. if one...
i read every post from the begining 3 times already .... but can't articulate yet something ..... meaning if you know what you are doing you should be able to explain to someone else the right way to trade ... i still can't .. so i miss something ...
  • #42,429
  • Aug 28, 2013 8:05am Aug 28, 2013 8:05am
Quoting Redsunfx
{quote} i read every post from the begining 3 times already .... but can't articulate yet something ..... meaning if you know what you are doing you should be able to explain to someone else the right way to trade ... i still can't .. so i miss something ...
i see.
so sorry to speculate.
can i ask you a question.
What is it that you not understand?

regards

ok since you read whole thread 3 times.
tell me, i like know what was Drzakir's difficulty?
may solve yours.
  • #42,430
  • Edited 8:29am Aug 28, 2013 8:16am | Edited 8:29am
Quoting Redsunfx
FTI Are you sure ? snowballing and rescuing a position is working for a retail trader ? for a dealer no doubt (based on your experience) , mindset mindset as you already mention .... but my question is: a dealer trading method can be used by retail trader ? ( normally retail trader use leverage ) or its just a mindset issue ? Thank's in advance for your answer Redsun
I read this post and i already know.
you not missed something.
seems you missed everything.

regards

question,

what does a dealer do that a retail trader doesn't.
correct he uses cash trades, deliverable 2 days , is called spot trade.
when deals sell eurousd to you,
my usd to my usd account , xxx ny
your euros to your euro account xxxxeurope.
value spot, means 2 days for backoffice clear trade.
failing which , lines off.

for you retail, you borrow your usd, pays interest every day you have loan.
and you borrow at least 50X your deposits.
try go your bank do this.

can you make a 10cents call with 2 cents?
can a rat fight with my dog and win?
ya i know, have special skills , read lines.
Pick on your own size. please.
  • #42,431
  • Aug 28, 2013 8:21am Aug 28, 2013 8:21am
Quoting fti
{quote} i see. so sorry to speculate. can i ask you a question. What is it that you not understand? regards ok since you read whole thread 3 times. i like know what was Drzakhir's difficulty? may solve yours.
FTI

being in front of my 4 charts ( GBPUSD 1h EURUSD 1h USDJPY 1h and a 5 mn EURUSD ) and decide if i should dance up or down ...i don't see the rythm ..
the only thing i understand is that you are building kind of optional position long or short of volatility with a constant delta management. (snowballing rescuing is in fact to manage delta of your position ).

Regards
  • #42,432
  • Edited 9:19am Aug 28, 2013 8:40am | Edited 9:19am
Quoting Redsunfx
{quote} FTI being in front of my 4 charts ( GBPUSD 1h EURUSD 1h USDJPY 1h and a 5 mn EURUSD ) and decide if i should dance up or down ...i don't see the rythm .. the only thing i understand is that you are building kind of optional position long or short of volatility with a constant delta management. (snowballing rescuing is in fact to manage delta of your position ). Regards
nono you don't decide. the chart decides.
you only decide how many troops you can dispatch safely, with a backup when necessary.

can you please direct me to the post i said that?
when did i ever suggest you sell volatility with a constant delta?
and how can your delta be constant when your exposure size keeps changing?
why you managing delta when your delta is 1 on 1?

why you watching price charts while trading volatility?
are we on the same page?


regards

oops , ran away.
I not trying belittle you.
trying tell you you got it all wrong.
  • #42,433
  • Aug 28, 2013 9:19am Aug 28, 2013 9:19am
Quoting fti
{quote} It not seems to be a good thing at all, vic. there some info, cannot verify. seems there is massive outflow of exchange due to the rich overspending abroad. snowballed effects. but i don't know how true this is. I mean how much can one spend, really. container loads gold buying? surely IRB can see where the leak from their trade reports? I fail to see what fed QE stoppage can have such extream impact on the currency. hearing is govt spending, but thats very politikal. but seems more focus seems about the import/ export. This sounds more...

chief,

it hitted 69 intraday today.....now i am thinking wtf is going on....


V
  • #42,434
  • Aug 28, 2013 9:22am Aug 28, 2013 9:22am
Quoting Redsunfx
{quote} FTI being in front of my 4 charts ( GBPUSD 1h EURUSD 1h USDJPY 1h and a 5 mn EURUSD ) and decide if i should dance up or down ...i don't see the rhythm .. the only thing i understand is that you are building kind of optional position long or short of volatility with a constant delta management. (snowballing rescuing is in fact to manage delta of your position ). Regards
Hi ResSunfx
Here is the link that might help you
Link 1
Link 2
Link 3
Link 4
Hope it helps
Maybe The words "average price" of your position close to the real market price can help understand
What we need to do to flow above the water or maybe under it but close to the surface of water.
How much force do we need to put into our body in order to surface above the water to be salvaged

Hope it helps
regards
Michael
Do not be victim to conflict of the General and Commander in you - by FTI
  • #42,435
  • Aug 28, 2013 9:23am Aug 28, 2013 9:23am
May i consider the shaded areas good signals?
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  • #42,436
  • Aug 28, 2013 9:24am Aug 28, 2013 9:24am
Quoting indianguyinny24
{quote} chief, it hitted 69 intraday today.....now i am thinking wtf is going on.... V
currency trying to adjust to import over extension. i think.
is not a bad thing,
now imports will be too expensive.
so domestic economy must kick in to develop. Otherwise economy gets caught in a vice grip.

Raising interest rates to combat this can be big mistake. Can dry up funds access and cause dessert effects.
If rate hikes , must be mild, just for control.
must not be strong choke contracted system.
I am watching see, how they going handle this.

Panda benefited from same.
so i watching how this transition. is very interesting.
for me is watching 1997 revisted.

regards

this normally happens because the currency was not allowed adjust incrementally to the economic ground.
in free markets , this cannot happen , because currency would had adjusted to situations incrementally.
If markets are pegged or manipulated. then shock events like this adjusts.
  • #42,437
  • Aug 28, 2013 9:31am Aug 28, 2013 9:31am
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...ing-clues.html
  • #42,438
  • Aug 28, 2013 9:32am Aug 28, 2013 9:32am
Quoting Redsunfx
FTI Are you sure ? snowballing and rescuing a position is working for a retail trader ? for a dealer no doubt (based on your experience) , mindset mindset as you already mention .... but my question is: a dealer trading method can be used by retail trader ? ( normally retail trader use leverage ) or its just a mindset issue ? Thank's in advance for your answer Redsun
Hi Redsunfx
I think that to answer this question
after you understand what is sqew of attack or rescue
try to play with numbers i mean size of your troops
on demo and see if it can explain you how size can help you
to be close to the market when needed.
When you on demo try to be as much realistic as you can
i mean sized like you do in life and not accounts of 50000 in demo
Hope it will be eye opener
regards
Michael
Do not be victim to conflict of the General and Commander in you - by FTI
  • #42,439
  • Aug 28, 2013 9:36am Aug 28, 2013 9:36am
Quoting indianguyinny24
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...ing-clues.html
rigging?
if cbs gets the proof, then is right slap them silly.

regards
  • #42,440
  • Edited 10:01am Aug 28, 2013 9:39am | Edited 10:01am
Quoting FFStudent
May i consider the shaded areas good signals? {image}
what mean good signals.
every read has a 50 :50 chance of being wrong.
ok some have 60:40. but what that does for you is make you a stone.

just put strategic positions for managing, don't sell the house.

regards

what about these?
you would be homeless , if you had sold the house.
beware of pattern illusions.
they not necessarily wrong.
but if you mismanage mm, you finished.
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