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  • #21
  • Aug 6, 2012 4:45am Aug 6, 2012 4:45am
Good day deathgod_ir!

I agree with you that there is a little secret - trend. Tendency. We could not make money if the market goes nowhere, but we could make money (at least theoretical) if the market shows us its intententions to move up or down. We could not know for sure how long and how far it would go that route, but at least we could see that the market is going somewhere now.
  • #22
  • Aug 6, 2012 4:56am Aug 6, 2012 4:56am
after closing the topic one good comment appeared . ^_^

look at this pic and tell me what you can find out .
the black line is the price .
have you ever seen such movement in the market ?
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  • #23
  • Aug 6, 2012 5:00am Aug 6, 2012 5:00am
Quoting deathgod_ir
after closing the topic one good comment appeared . ^_^

look at this pic and tell me what you can find out .
the black line is the price .
have you ever seen such movement in the market ?

I see price changes (oscilations) because price normally moves in waves. Those waves happens in the market because of supply and demand.
  • #24
  • Aug 6, 2012 5:23am Aug 6, 2012 5:23am
not exactly , what i wanted you to see is break outs not the infrastructure inside trend movements . based on the history of all charts one of these break outs will continue to move forward , and this zig zag movement will not continue more than 5 levels ( as i searched through all my historical data )
so the question is how we can use this idea to make money or to protect money . i don't know the correct and appropriate answer tight now , but i have several hypothesizes.
please think about it thoroughly and if you found anything lets work on it.and also check out the picture , as you see the similar zigzag is happening but it continues to breakout upper prices than lower ones ,and when the lower one breaks down i continues to fall smoothly for a longer period of time and price .
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  • #25
  • Aug 22, 2013 3:48pm Aug 22, 2013 3:48pm
Good day to you deathgod_ir!

may i ask that what you try to explain is how to covering our losing position when the breakout failed?
martiangle style with more than 5 step prepared maybe?
  • #26
  • Aug 23, 2013 4:32am Aug 23, 2013 4:32am
Quoting Pipsgeek
How do you program S/R in an automated system? Or do you simply ignore S/R and work with whatever else you can program?
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...16#post6898616
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  • #27
  • Last Post: Dec 12, 2021 12:16am Dec 12, 2021 12:16am
Quoting deathgod_ir
hi , after 6 years of trading , and losing a lot of money with a lot of systems( self-made systems ) , i found so many weird truth from my experience, market is unpredictable, r/r is unmeasurable, and no system will work for more than 3 month and so on . . . , so what is the correct answer to be profitable ? well , its not about your first position , because no matter what , its a wrong decision( based on the fact that market and the movement depth is unpredictable ), but its about what you do after your loss ( your profits doesnt matter because...

The fact that the Market is unpredictable is 100% true.
Considering the unpredictable nature of the price movement(price is the important variable), whatever prediction we make it has a 50% chance that we'll be right and a 50% chance that we'll be wrong.
The sooner we accept that the nature of what we are doing is basically random, the sooner we can begin to trade as trading should be done.
We gotta understand that in trading all we get is a series of opportunities where we don't expect much but we know that we'll place a stoploss which is in relation to how much we're on a risk.
There's no perfect system, or a perfect indicator, or a perfect chart pattern.
It's really impressive you got to the conclusion that the Market is unpredictable by yourself, I'm now more confident it's true.
The lines above are told by Tom Hougaard. I suggest you to watch his youtube videos on trading psychology in an event
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