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  • #1
  • First Post: Jul 24, 2013 6:38am Jul 24, 2013 6:38am
not much to add here, the question is in the title and i appreciate your (informed and informative) input.

thanks

WBR
dreams do come true.
  • #2
  • Jul 24, 2013 6:52am Jul 24, 2013 6:52am
Quoting wannaberich
not much to add here, the question is in the title and i appreciate your (informed and informative) input. thanks WBR
Ummmm, why?
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #3
  • Jul 24, 2013 6:54am Jul 24, 2013 6:54am
well, this is a zero sum game. so eventually if everyone is on the same side who are you getting your money from?
dreams do come true.
  • #4
  • Jul 24, 2013 6:55am Jul 24, 2013 6:55am
The losers of course... you (probably) lose, I win!!!
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #5
  • Jul 24, 2013 6:56am Jul 24, 2013 6:56am
How the hell did you get 10 vouches?
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #6
  • Jul 24, 2013 6:59am Jul 24, 2013 6:59am
As long as more wannabe's join the game, the few who win will continue to be fed.
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #7
  • Jul 24, 2013 7:02am Jul 24, 2013 7:02am
The whales eat krill... tiny phyto plankton, but it is food that enables whales to grow into the biggest mammals on earth. There are multiple trillions of phytoplankton in every cubic kilometre of antarctic seawater, but only one or 2 whales, but guess what... the whales don't lose.
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #8
  • Jul 24, 2013 7:09am Jul 24, 2013 7:09am
that was some really informative input LOL

this place still seems to be crawling with attitude problems. i ask a question about trading strategies patents and your worried about vouchers. and whale food... what the fuck...
dreams do come true.
  • #9
  • Jul 24, 2013 7:12am Jul 24, 2013 7:12am
Quoting wannaberich
not much to add here, the question is in the title and i appreciate your (informed and informative) input. thanks WBR
I think it could,but,,
Do not use this image,,because it has been patented,,ha,ha,,just kidding,
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if there is something you should keep secret,simply just save it,, so, just
  • #10
  • Jul 24, 2013 7:27am Jul 24, 2013 7:27am
Quoting wannaberich
that was some really informative input LOL this place still seems to be crawling with attitude problems. i ask a question about trading strategies patents and your worried about vouchers. and whale food... what the fuck...
It's an interesting question, something along the lines of intellectual property. Whilst not an expert my guess would be that a coder for example could patent or copyright his code and thus anyone selling it would be liable, or if you could prove that someone was making money with it they may also be liable.

You could patent a brand like "the really gay and out there colorful indicator system" and no one else could sell it... dam

But the flaw in your thinking is that the only reason you would want to patent something is to stop others from profiting off of your idea or to preserve it's image. Trading by it's nature is just too subjective, and unless you were a commercial guy protecting his brand how would you ever know if someone was using your idea?

Again though, I'm no expert in the slightest, just my opinion. You may also want to check out the guidelines for patents, I'm pretty sure there's a good reason you wouldn't be granted one for a simple trading system I just can't think of what at this time... Something to do with the nature that profits are derived perhaps or the fact that your system is derived from public domain data??? No idea, interesting though.
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  • #11
  • Jul 24, 2013 7:29am Jul 24, 2013 7:29am
It's an interesting topic. Online Trading Academy has a patent pending on Sam Seiden's 'supply and demand levels'. The question is why? I can only think that it is an attempt to stop other people teaching his exact criteria. But I also suspect its a publicity stunt in which they try to enhance and make more exclusive the concept of supply and demand levels (i.e just another one of their BS marketing tactics to get the clueless to part with thousands of $s).
  • #12
  • Jul 24, 2013 7:41am Jul 24, 2013 7:41am
Quoting wannaberich
well, this is a zero sum game. so eventually if everyone is on the same side who are you getting your money from?
You assume too much... that this is a zero sum game, well, it OBVIOUSLY is not a zero sum game, is it?
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #13
  • Jul 24, 2013 7:51am Jul 24, 2013 7:51am
You cannot patent an idea; only the implementation of an idea. If you code your idea, you can patent that code. The very thought of patenting an idea is ludicrous. Seriously...

Besides, why would you, even if you could? To patent something, you have to disclose it (make it known), it would be far better to just keep it your own secret.
  • #14
  • Jul 24, 2013 7:54am Jul 24, 2013 7:54am
Is your strategy that original that it's patent worthy? Just saying cause there's nothing new under the sun. Especially when it comes to money.

PS: That evil clown scares the sh!t out of me.
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
  • #15
  • Jul 24, 2013 7:55am Jul 24, 2013 7:55am
exactly, and become rich
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #16
  • Jul 24, 2013 7:56am Jul 24, 2013 7:56am
Quoting vox dei
That evil clown scares the sh!t out of me.
The Macca's clown, KFC man or Ben Bernanke?
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #17
  • Jul 24, 2013 8:01am Jul 24, 2013 8:01am
Cindy ....... well said & I agree. That explorer means zero & another thing that means about a much is the 10+V next to a members joined date. What counts is this busines is what one is really doing & in the Land of Oz world of trading forums you will never really know what traders are really doing. Now if that explorer gives you a warm fuzzy feeling, by all means go ahead & throw one up.

Anyway Cindy thanks for the post as I always enjoy reading your views even if at times I don't agree.

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  • #18
  • Jul 24, 2013 8:06am Jul 24, 2013 8:06am
Quoting pt49
{quote} The Macca's clown, KFC man or Ben Bernanke?
All of them. Seriously, though there's something sinister about clowns.
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
  • #19
  • Jul 24, 2013 8:09am Jul 24, 2013 8:09am
Quoting acetrader
Cindy ....... well said & I agree. That explorer means zero & another thing that means about a much is the 10+V next to a members joined date. What counts is this busines is what one is really doing & in the Land of Oz world of trading forums you will never really know what traders are really doing. Now if that explorer gives you a warm fuzzy feeling, by all means go ahead & throw one up. Anyway Cindy thanks for the post as I always enjoy reading your views even if at times I don't agree. _________________________
Hey thanks, well my broker doesn't offer the trade explorer function and even if it did I don't see the value in bragging my performance or lack there of.

And it wouldn't be much of a forum if everyone agreed lol we would only need one thread, the "I agree" thread
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  • #20
  • Jul 24, 2013 8:10am Jul 24, 2013 8:10am
good to see that finally we have some constructive input.

forex IS a zero sum game. as a trader you should know it. unlike the stock market whatever someone wins someone else lost (broker spreads not accounted for for this).

it is possible to patent an idea. the company i work for has done, the market we work in do it constantly. in fact it is a far better aproach to patent first then build. although NDA's should protect you when you disseminate info regarding your idea/concept so that you can build it you will be far more secure if your IP is protected by a filed patent(even if pending).

yes the reason why i would like to know about trading IP/patents has to do with programming the strategy. not to be sold but to protect the strategy from becoming public via the programmers. truth is i am not sure if i am just being over zealous here... i was more curious about it.

(BTW 1.32023 on alpari feed will be a good long with a touch and not closed below, if not touched 1.32607 will be a good short)
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