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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited 12:09pm Jun 26, 2013 8:20am | Edited 12:09pm
Hi guys, i have been trading for some years and then this trading idea came up, we are risk mangers so the first thing to acheive here is to lower our risk and get more profits.

trading with a hedge its for me the best way to lower our exposure and take advantage of all market swings.

With this kind of trading i find my self much more relaxed and actually trading more, if the trade go against me i can re open a trade in a better price. I enter a trade and let it mature over nigth and profit for what the market can give me. i look for entry points on h4 but im testing in lower tiem frames.

the pairs that im using is eurusd-usdchf in the direction of eurchf usdcad-audusd in the direction of audcad and gbpusd-usdjpy in the direction of gbpjpy

Make sure to read the pdf, i hope you guys can give some ideas.
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  • #2
  • Jun 26, 2013 11:50am Jun 26, 2013 11:50am
2nd pdf won't open - first one ok.
  • #3
  • Jun 26, 2013 10:38pm Jun 26, 2013 10:38pm
Quoting rohule
Hi guys, i have been trading for some years and then this trading idea came up, we are risk mangers so the first thing to acheive here is to lower our risk and get more profits. trading with a hedge its for me the best way to lower our exposure and take advantage of all market swings. With this kind of trading i find my self much more relaxed and actually trading more, if the trade go against me i can re open a trade in a better price. I enter a trade and let it mature over nigth and profit for what the market can give me. i look for entry points...

Thanks for sharing. how long do you use this strategy? How much drawdown ever happen? thanks
  • #4
  • Jun 27, 2013 1:57am Jun 27, 2013 1:57am
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

It could be good to see on or two of your trades with charts, just to be sure we understand well.

Are you demo or live trading this strategy ?

Thanks and best of luck !

BT
Simplicity is the Ultimate Sophistication.
  • #5
  • Jun 27, 2013 8:17am Jun 27, 2013 8:17am
thanks for taking time to come by.

Some people trade this and close the trade when is on profit, i use this hedge to elimitane sl and stress, if the trade go against me i just re buy or sell in a better place.

im trading this 2 moths a go and i am very comfortable with it.

in the example, i was specting to eurchf to rise due to inverse h&s, nice supply demand zone and stoch (red line) if the price go down to 1.2232 i place another buy. so i have the flexibility to enter on a nice level and let it mature.

if i think that the eurchf will rise i create a synthetic pair and a hedge by buying eurusd and usdchf
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  • #6
  • Jun 27, 2013 8:34am Jun 27, 2013 8:34am
one of the good thing abouth trading eurchf is that goes in the direction of the US economy so is easy to make fundamental and technical analisis. and if you left your trades mature over nigth you can earn the swap.
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  • #7
  • Jun 28, 2013 9:31pm Jun 28, 2013 9:31pm
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=95721 Is your strategy similar to this thread? What's is the different?
  • #8
  • Jun 30, 2013 10:12pm Jun 30, 2013 10:12pm
Quoting ronald_fsm
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=95721 Is your strategy similar to this thread? What's is the different?
Hi ronald,

i dint know abouth that strategy, i really like it a lot. My strategy its more easy to trade with but im understading the mechsnis of the other system to see if i can get some other advantage. thank you so much for the link.

I like this kind of strategy because it gives little but constant profit, if you compound the profits in a while you can use that money to take more profitable trades and limiting your initial risk, if your trade is a winner you can trade more profitable trades, but if your trade is a looser you will only loose the privious profit.
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  • #9
  • Jul 1, 2013 10:36pm Jul 1, 2013 10:36pm
Quoting rohule
{quote} Hi ronald, i dint know abouth that strategy, i really like it a lot. My strategy its more easy to trade with but im understading the mechsnis of the other system to see if i can get some other advantage. thank you so much for the link. I like this kind of strategy because it gives little but constant profit, if you compound the profits in a while you can use that money to take more profitable trades and limiting your initial risk, if your trade is a winner you can trade more profitable trades, but if your trade is a looser you will only...
Is this strategy working for a long time? How much drawdown ever happen? thanks for your kind information
  • #10
  • Jul 3, 2013 8:22am Jul 3, 2013 8:22am
hi,

i have been trading this strategy for a couple of months now and im very happy with it, the DD its very little or nothing, that deppends or how your trading is.
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  • #11
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:58pm Jul 4, 2013 10:58pm
Quoting rohule
hi, i have been trading this strategy for a couple of months now and im very happy with it, the DD its very little or nothing, that deppends or how your trading is.

Thanks for your reply. Anyway why do you put this system on commercial content? is that any improvement of this strategy that we must pay for? thanks
  • #12
  • Jul 5, 2013 5:10am Jul 5, 2013 5:10am
Hi Ronald.

I don't really know. I post this on trading systems but the manager of the page set this info here.
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  • #13
  • Jul 9, 2013 10:07pm Jul 9, 2013 10:07pm
Quoting rohule
Hi Ronald. I don't really know. I post this on trading systems but the manager of the page set this info here.
Hi ,how are your trading anyway? hope success always
  • #14
  • Jul 10, 2013 8:48am Jul 10, 2013 8:48am
Ronald,

I just suffered a -15% dd. But it was my fault because i put to much risk in the trade and i loose 2 weeks of profit.

Rigth now im trading to get .5 to 2% every day. I use the profit to take more profitable trades and lower my risk. So i like a lot this kind of trading so far.

have a good one and happy piping
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  • #15
  • Jul 11, 2013 12:00am Jul 11, 2013 12:00am
Quoting rohule
Ronald, I just suffered a -15% dd. But it was my fault because i put to much risk in the trade and i loose 2 weeks of profit. Rigth now im trading to get .5 to 2% every day. I use the profit to take more profitable trades and lower my risk. So i like a lot this kind of trading so far. have a good one and happy piping
Do you only open 1 hedging position or do you add more hedging position when floating minus? thanks
  • #16
  • Jul 11, 2013 8:01am Jul 11, 2013 8:01am
I average the position each 30 or so. I can hold -150 pips wich is 2% of the acc.
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  • #17
  • Jul 14, 2013 11:39pm Jul 14, 2013 11:39pm
Quoting rohule
I average the position each 30 or so. I can hold -150 pips wich is 2% of the acc.
When you already open multi position ,but the price still against you, do you close those position or let them floating?
  • #18
  • Jul 15, 2013 8:07am Jul 15, 2013 8:07am
Quoting ronald_fsm
{quote} When you already open multi position ,but the price still against you, do you close those position or let them floating?
if the lost reach 3 or 4% (depends on how much i win in the same trade) i close the trade.
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  • #19
  • Jul 15, 2013 3:09pm Jul 15, 2013 3:09pm
Que la tendencia este acompanyada de volumen brutal?

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  • #20
  • Jul 16, 2013 10:50pm Jul 16, 2013 10:50pm
Quoting Hugh Briss
Que la tendencia este acompanyada de volumen brutal? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6L1j5-JTzA
Could you explain what is the song about? thanks
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