Measuring the Markets – Ideas

I can tell you why.

1,2&3, it is a downtrend, so we look for weakness in retracement.
4,5&6, same shit here.
7&8, huge volume 3 bars before 7, and in 7 No sellers, it is support level now, and 8, no sellers, and 9, confirmation to that it is true.

Like I said, it takes time to learn VSA.
It is easy, but it takes time, before it is easy.

Still some candles are missing in between, also how you avoid whipsaws?
Let's say everything is correct and then whipsaw, and then another one, and another one...and...

-Show one longer bad example instead of good one.
-And your exit goes like...

when you have information about market, that there is no buyers or sellers, then it is gonna move sometime to opposite direction untill you see new info, so you do not have to analyze every candle, but you have to know where to look, trading ranges, playing field, support, resistance, pullback, retracement

okey, if you want best teacher for vsa, look for tom williams and all his videos what you can find about vsa

actually, there is no bad example in vsa, only bad analysis, vsa is allways right

For sure, I'm open for learning always.
Still it would be nice when and if we’ll see more explanations from members who previously answered here, as I stated in my earlier post.

Also, one more question came to my petty mind...
How to manage entry/exit and be the first and not the last?
Trading before the run?
Serious ideas...via p.m. or here...

Some would call it that...


[highlight=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]1) Sentiment = The race (a-b)[/highlight]
[highlight=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)] Instrument = The Trolls[/highlight]
[highlight=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]2) Stops/ Limits= Starting Gun/ Rules[/highlight]
[highlight=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]3) Change in dynamic of sentiment = Hamstring Strain[/highlight]
[highlight=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]4) An out come with very high probabilities = The Bet[/highlight]

[highlight=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]*Dont forget to wait for the Gun (New Race) [/highlight]

[highlight=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]And TY for your politeness[/highlight]

have to do more then 1 to 1 to win

Give me more - more, more, more...
More input...

And the more objectivity, the better...
Better explanations...
Give me great ideas. Whisper them into my ears...

Also talk about leading indicators. Whichever they may be...
Don't be afraid and if you don't want to say it publicly, then write me a p.m.

Many many thanks!

How to avoid range and whipsaw?

Which breakout will be valid?

How to avoid range and whipsaw?


How to avoid range ?
( trading when the market started to move fast )
How to avoid whipsaw?
(you have your stop loss tolerance)


Which breakout will be valid?
(there is no definite size breakout will be valid,,because any model //any form ,,B.O,,,can change direction at any time or become standstill//congestion // ranging=at any time )

nothing is 100% in trading ,,all about probability,, man,,

Anyone have any experiences with usual trades with risk 1 to gain 10,20,30,40,50...?

Or with long-term average risk to reward 1:5 or more?

Write even if you have any other good ideas about similar stuff and you want to share your experience.

Thanks...

Few other measuring tools.

AB=CD, you can see money getting out in point D, so many are using this.

Monthly, weekly, daily pivots with S/R levels, there are indicators for this.

So, if you take like, daily average ranges, pivots and use AB=CD, there you have
something to look how market is acting. Maybe adding Bollinger Bands to look for
upper/lowel levels.

SD levels with bollinger bands

Questions...

1.And the biggest reward with smallest risk, is possible on - this type of trades...?

2.How to enter with minimum risk and minimum time before the very beginning of the new trend? (Or at least at the beginning of the trend...)

3.You filter bad from good trades by these criteria...?

4.Your exit goes when the...?

Trade management, which produce RR is always confronted with price fluctuations. Meaning to say that,
1. If you set too tight the SL, it hit frequently, so expectancy is bad (RR is good, losing probability is high)
2. If you set too tight the TP, it hit more, but SL is not too tight, so expectancy is bad (RR is not good, winning probability is high)
3. If SL is set too far away, so expectancy is bad (RR is bad, winning probability is high)

So no matter what is the system, it need work together with trade management, price fluctuations is always your enemy, because there are many corrections or pull back of price, especially in smaller time frame.

Any professional here willing to share info about their long term average risk to reward ratio?
(Example on thousands of trades)
In intraday trading and/or longer term trading.
I’m interested in opinions how traders cope with trading and what the average long term rr ratio is at their disposal.
Something like: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...57#post1474957
Any comments about (only) 9% edge?
Also comment drawdowns in accordance with your rr profile...

And how you on the fly adjust your systems and in accordance with what parameters?

Thank you very much!

Any new ideas?

IMO a real edge is when the profitable trades are 10-50 times higher than an average loss trade.

Yes, that is indeed possible.

Have you ever done something like that?
What about winning-losing trades ratio in that example?

W=10%
L=90%

W=50%
L=50%

W=75%
L=25%

Tell me...
What's behind that system. Arbitrage or...?

Yes.
It's nothing magical. It has nothing to do with arbitrage. It's just taking advantage of the volatility.

In general a good winning trade can afford 10-20 losing trades.

The most robust edge you have in your arsenal, is...
(describe)