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Tiger trend trading -long term position trading

#281
Aug 1, 2012 10:16am Aug 1, 2012 10:16am

thecoolyman
| Joined Jun 2012 | Status: Trader | 24 Posts

I don't know anything about the code for these things but I couldn't figure it out as to why it wouldn't trade when it did so well on the other accounts I had it on.

Any help with this would be great

Thanks

#282
Edited 5:28pm Aug 2, 2012 11:02am | Edited 5:28pm

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

Lionking..you got it right!

Thanks,
Manny

Quoting Lion King

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Hi all
correct me if I'm wrong
from my understanding, the strategy can be summarized as below:

BUY
1. Daily chart must be uptrend (20/3,10/5 or 5/3)
2. Entry point whenever M15 chart gives second consecutive BUY signal (cross of ma (20/9,10/5 or 5/3)
3. Enter with 2 units
4.Stop loss will be the valley of the ma cross

EXIT
2 options
Option 1
1.Unit 1 TP=SL
2.Unit 2=open TP,let the tiger running,exit whenever there is a signal changes on daily chart

Option 2
1.Unit 1 exit whenever the lowest of the daily chart violated and
2.Unit...

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#283
Aug 2, 2012 11:04am Aug 2, 2012 11:04am

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

Thanks my friend..
you are most welcome to post and discuss your findings..
it will help all of us.

Thanks,
Manny

Quoting Lion King

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Hi for all Tiger followers
This is my 1st post in this FF thread because impressed by this Tiger Trading System,before any further sorry for my english because english is not my mother's tongue.
I keep observing the progress of this Tiger since it was 'born',it's seems one of the promising long term term trading strategy (good for swinger and intra day trader).For scalpers out there,I dont think this tiger is your friend,so dont waste your time look at this tiger unless for those who want to change trading style.The miracle about this system is...

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#284
Aug 2, 2012 11:08am Aug 2, 2012 11:08am

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

Brigadier:
Thanks for your hardwork..
the ea seems to be working fine..but
not the partial close..as per the rules

what it is doing is..its opening a bunch of trades after the cross
instead of one trade when you have the partial trade close option on.

Thanks,
manoj

p.s; attaching a pic to show the multiple entries being taken
instead of just one entry that was supposed to be.

Quoting TheBrigadier

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I'm going to Boston for the week. Here's something to play with in the meantime.
I'm curious to see whether the mechanism I used for partial closes works for you guys. The EA will open 2 trades of half the lot size if you choose to have CloseOnBreakEven on. This will close one trade at the violation of the daily high or low. It keeps track of the extra order by using a phony limit on the trade of 9900. It worked for me. If you're on a 4 digit broker and are getting errors you may have to change this variable. If anyone knows a better way of implementing...

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#285
Aug 2, 2012 11:27am Aug 2, 2012 11:27am

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

Carlitodog:
Thanks for your hardwork.
You are right..these results are disheartening.
There should be a way around it.

Thanks,
Manny

Quoting carlitodog

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Hi Guys,

I have finally gotten around to testing Brigdier's EA on some of my long term data.
I started with EURUSD because I always do in these situations.... I do note that supercat has already found this to be less profitable than some of the cross pairs which tend to trend for longer periods.

Attached are two sets of results both using 3ema and 5ema cross on daily bars (for trend) and 15min for entry.

After running the first scenario it was clear to me (comparing the equity curve to balance curve) that the exists were too sloppy and...

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#286
Edited 6:15pm Aug 2, 2012 12:01pm | Edited 6:15pm

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

Carlitodog:
For some reason my tester is not working (taking trades)..
I used the same data source..

would you be interested in running a couple of iterations
with the following parameters..for eurusd, when you have free time
maybe on 1 year data.
I would greatly appreciate that.

Daily trend of 2 and 5, 15 min entries in 3 and 5
with SL OPTION 0.

Seperator1="************EMA Settings************"; ShortEMA=2; LongEMA=5; FastShortEMA=3; FastLongEMA=5; PeriodShort=15; PeriodLong=1440; Type=1; Seperator2="************Lot Management************"; Lots=0.02; Slippage=3; MinimumMargin=0.8; Seperator3="************Stop Loss************"; StopLossType=0; Padding=0; StopLossPeriod=15; MaxStopLoss=200; HardStopLoss=200; Seperator4="*************Partial Trades*****************"; CloseHalfAtBreakEven=true; Seperator5="Only place trades outside of a range"; RangeUp=100; RangeDown=100;

Daily trend of 2 and 5, 15 min entries in 3 and 5
with SL OPTION 1.

Seperator1="************EMA Settings************"; ShortEMA=2; LongEMA=5; FastShortEMA=3; FastLongEMA=5; PeriodShort=15; PeriodLong=1440; Type=1; Seperator2="************Lot Management************"; Lots=0.02; Slippage=3; MinimumMargin=0.8; Seperator3="************Stop Loss************"; StopLossType=1; Padding=200; StopLossPeriod=15; MaxStopLoss=200; HardStopLoss=200; Seperator4="*************Partial Trades*****************"; CloseHalfAtBreakEven=true; Seperator5="Only place trades outside of a range"; RangeUp=100; RangeDown=100;

I personally do think that "Initial SL" with daily high/low will be too high a loss.
but,... does the trailing stop you added exit on the daily high/low violation?

Thanks,
Manny

Quoting carlitodog

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Hi Guys,

I have finally gotten around to testing Brigdier's EA on some of my long term data.
I started with EURUSD because I always do in these situations.... I do note that supercat has already found this to be less profitable than some of the cross pairs which tend to trend for longer periods.

Attached are two sets of results both using 3ema and 5ema cross on daily bars (for trend) and 15min for entry.

After running the first scenario it was clear to me (comparing the equity curve to balance curve) that the exists were too sloppy and...

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#287
Aug 3, 2012 11:56am Aug 3, 2012 11:56am

TheBrigadier
| Joined Oct 2011 | Status: Trader | 23 Posts

Ya, if anyone wants to help with the EA feel free. Just please keep the code clean and legible for the rest of us.

If you guys are having individual issues with the EA, you can send me a private message and we can work that out individually so this thread doesn't turn into tech support.

supercat, I'll try to figure out what is causing the flurry of orders. I haven't seen that before.

In the meantime, everyone should try backtesting new ideas by hand. If the results look promising, and not just over the pristine trending market conditions of the past 2 months, I'll gladly try to incorporate it into the EA for more rigorous long term backtesting.

#288
Aug 6, 2012 4:40am Aug 6, 2012 4:40am

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

Thanks a lot my friend.

Quoting TheBrigadier

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Ya, if anyone wants to help with the EA feel free. Just please keep the code clean and legible for the rest of us.

If you guys are having individual issues with the EA, you can send me a private message and we can work that out individually so this thread doesn't turn into tech support.

supercat, I'll try to figure out what is causing the flurry of orders. I haven't seen that before.

In the meantime, everyone should try backtesting new ideas by hand. If the results look promising, and not just over the pristine trending market conditions...

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#289
Jun 1, 2013 6:00am Jun 1, 2013 6:00am

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

Analyze the weekly chart and check to see the signals based on 1/5 ema cross (closed/start on the following candle):
use kolier ema to enter trades at every 2-3 ema cross on the corresponding 15 min chart in the main direction
as specified by weekly chart.

on the 15 min chart...
kolier ema parameters:
trade at bar open-true
max open orders(buy and sell):>400
stop losses: 30 (eurjpy, gbpjpy, eurusd etc.), 70 (eurnzd, gbpnzd etc.)
take profit:0

on the weekly chart..
breakeven v2 parameters:
lockinpips at-SL
lockinpips-0
trades-2
modify trades-true

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#290
Jun 1, 2013 6:08am Jun 1, 2013 6:08am

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

less than a week old!!

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#291
Jun 1, 2013 6:17am Jun 1, 2013 6:17am

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

money management:
1/2 lot is closed when it reaches tp=sl
and simultaneously sl is moved to zero...so now, the trade is free.

the winning strategy is to keep your trades running till the weekly chart suggests you to
do otherwise.

good luck.

also, looking into/studying
gbpaud...as the trend is steep all over the weekly chart.

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#292
Jun 1, 2013 6:28am Jun 1, 2013 6:28am

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

a fine example:
gbpjpy-
a strong upward movement of 1300 pips..
this is what you would've gained if you had 1 trade at the very beginning..NOW
imagine if you had 20-30 trades in this trend.
you would have netted AT LEAST 10,000+ pips...and all of them "free" trades.

Again, patience if the key...14 weeks in the market.. riding the trend...mmhh??

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#293
Edited Jun 6, 2013 8:45am Jun 5, 2013 2:51pm | Edited Jun 6, 2013 8:45am

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

12-14,000 pips (in 2 weeks)

also, as the arrows on the weekly chart develop =stop trading!!

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#294
Jun 7, 2013 9:07pm Jun 7, 2013 9:07pm

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

end of 2nd week of trading
results: +20,000 pips

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#295
Jun 7, 2013 9:13pm Jun 7, 2013 9:13pm

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

come next week...start shorting the EURJPY..
- based on the weekly chart signal.

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#296
Jun 7, 2013 9:19pm Jun 7, 2013 9:19pm

supercat1977
| Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Trader | 219 Posts

also..bear in mind as you are progressing...try to replenish the balance, by closing a few trades..
..(because equity can disappear like vapor) to compensate for all of our random unsuccessful
entries..

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#297
Jun 8, 2013 2:00am Jun 8, 2013 2:00am

shiva
Joined Aug 2007 | Status: Doing It In Dubai | 2,457 Posts

Quoting supercat1977

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Analyze the weekly chart and check to see the signals based on 1/5 ema cross (closed/start on the following candle): use kolier ema to enter trades at every 2-3 ema cross on the corresponding 15 min chart in the main direction as specified by weekly chart. on the 15 min chart... kolier ema parameters: trade at bar open-true max open orders(buy and sell):>400 stop losses: 30 (eurjpy, gbpjpy, eurusd etc.), 70 (eurnzd, gbpnzd etc.) take profit:0 on the weekly chart.. breakeven v2 parameters: lockinpips at-SL lockinpips-0 trades-2 modify trades-true...

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Welcome back Manoj, a long gap in posts