Order Flow Trading for Fun and Profit - Book

Unfortunately, no. However, if the event goes well, I'd like to do it again in either the London or Asian session.

Doh! Went to a new page... incase anyone missed it, here is the link to the open chat event: http://www.orderflowtrading.com/Chat.aspx

I had to leave earlier, but the chat session was really awesome. I learned a lot in those 2 hours and really hope you guys are gonna repeat that again!

Thanks for stopping by Caymen!

FYI, Open Chat is ending at 3pm, so if you wanna get your Order Flow Tarding questions answered, might want to do it soon.

hey darkstar..... thanks for the chat invite..... it was interesting.....h

Hey DS remember when you said you only had a small number of your books for sale... Ah hem

oops sorry DS every now and then I forget that you invented trading itself

Don't get all pissy on me. My concerns are genuine.. I did glance at your forum the other day though.. Seems your die hard fans still can't trade for sh*t. I won't name names. And there was that guy who lost his life savings, but hey. Hope you're still fading the masses my man. Killem all

i actually one of the early purchasers of the book. I have to say, i wished i had waited a little because the book is WAY overpriced for what the content is worth.

But i did take a few concepts of order flow to use in my own system.

If anything, order flow is a mindset -not a a rigid system to be laid out in bullet points. If you can't understand people's motivation to make a trade, you have no chance in this game.

Like you I feel a bit ripped of for having bought it early, based on the assumption given by DS that there wouldn't be any copies left later on... and now you can purchase it for half the price... sad man. I can understand DS's wish to keep selling more, but why do people get caught up in cheap talk early on when they end up doing the same as everyone else?
Early birds always end up paying the bigger part of production cost for any new product... the price of being the first to know ?

I actually don't care how many books are sold, personally I enjoyed the book. I just find it disappointing that Darksters all commercial now, and everything's a hustle. That's what's sad really. Just needed to get that off my chest, feel better now Ty, moving on.

Im interested in the online trader's chat and the private thread that comes with the book. Is it worth it! Thanks for answers!

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As of today I have 42 books left. Truth be told I had 1000 units printed andbefore it was released I had over 1000 people contact me about purchasing. So Ihonestly assumed they wouldn't last long. Unfortunately not everyone who showedinterest purchased, so it took a bit longer to move them then I expected. C'estla vie.

As for the success and failure of people... is everyone profitable? No. It'sstill a hard business and most people aren't qualified to compete. However, asbest I can tell, there is a higher success rate then the industry average. Andthe more time people spend in chat, the higher that success rate is.

And yeah, High took a solid assbeating. Lost over $100k. Wasn't quite hislife savings, but regardless, it hurts. Honestly, he would be the first personto tell you that he has nobody to blame but himself. He was in a hurry to makea living before he was ready, broke all his rules and kept moving his stops(against the advice of everyone around him BTW), and he paid for it. I supposeyou can take that as a failure of the information, or the training, orwhatever, but I'm not losing any sleep over it.

In any event, if you choose to think I sold out or that it's all a scam, that'syour choice. There are plenty of people who would disagree, so I'm not gonnalose any sleep over that either.

Luck be with you.

Its actually more expensive now then when you purchased.

What can you expect from Order Flow Trading? Well, it is not really about one or a few specific trading strategies. OFT can be applied to intraday trading on the minutes charts, to swing trading holding the trades for a few days or for position trading applying global macro strategies. Our chat room is the evidence that Order Flow Trading is a method that is not limited to a timeframe or trading style. What we have been teaching traders from the beginning is that at its core, OFT is a mindset.

It is a mindset that encourages you to think about the actions of other market participants. Did you ever think about what other traders could do as you were looking at a trading opportunity? While one could argue that there are a lot of different participants in financial markets, the truth is, we can divide them into several groups and match certain characteristics that most of them share to each group. Once you have a basic knowledge about Market Microstructure and are aware of the participants that take part in trading the markets, you will already have an advantage over other traders that blindly follow the common TA stuff taught all over the internet.

As order flow traders, we exploit the predictable behavior of other market participants and profit from it. You will soon realize that as price moves, there is a side that is wrong and is losing money. They will place their stops at predictable levels. There will be price levels where the pain starts for the one caught on the wrong side and they will have to cover their positions. Emotions are a large drive in trading and if we incorporate metagaming (thinking about other participants' actions) and sentiment analysis (the current bias for a certain asset or for a certain group of assets, i.e. commodities), we'll have a powerful edge. Now, with time you'll realize that the stop hunt example we just mentioned is only a small part of the OFT universe. There is much more to discover and we promise it is worth the effort.

The key thing is to build a strategy that suits your style. While there are several concepts that most of the traders in our chat room incorporate in their trading, all strategies are unique in a way, because each trader modificates it to match his style. It is of great importance that you keep your strategy simple and you should be able to answer questions like "Why does my strategy works? Where is my edge? What makes my entry and exit methods suitable?" at any time. There is no reason why concepts like metagame analysis or sentiment analysis should frighten you, it gets only as complicated as you make it for yourself.

This is where our chat room can be of great help and we encourage everyone who buys the book together with access to the chat room to participate in it. Again, it is your mission to suit your trading strategy to your personal comfort, but there are some important things where we can assist you: Making the key concepts of OFT more clear by showing you live trade examples as they happen with detailed commentary, answering any questions about OF theory - from Market Microstructure to Sentiment Analysis, giving you inspiration to continuously work on yourself and getting better and so on... And there is also time for fun

Are you ready to take your trading to the next level?

We'd be glad to welcome you as new member of our community!

MORE INFORMATION -->
http://www.orderflowtrading.com/Learn.aspx

Also, follow us on Facebook for detailed market reports:
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And on Twitter for real-time flow info & market commentary:
https://twitter.com/OrderFlowForex

It seems like a good opportunity to write a review now. I bought Darkstar's book about six months ago and got access to his chat and forum too. The book itself is very good written, it explains you everything in a easy to understand manner. But if you read all Darkstar's posts and combined them, thought on your own about stops, barriers, sentiment, etc. you could have gotten most of it already. The book is there just to make your learning easier and faster. The forum is good, but it isn't very active. Pure gold is the chat. Darkstar and other successfull traders him alike are there and you can chat with them just about anything you want. If you have a hard time to understand something or need an advice or anything, they are there for you. And this is worth more than anything.

Also orderflow trading is no scam and Darkstar's teachings really are golden. If you think that learning about sentiment and the metagame-other traders mentality of where they put stops, what are their strategies and views/expectations on the market and so much more, are all scam, then go back to your indicators and candlesticks. No need to blame someone else for your own failure.

Meanwhile for others, who want to know more about OFT, Darkstar's OrderflowTrading site is the way to go.

My two cents on the matter.
Regards,
ppfx

Hey guys, that news feed you started up has seriously been helping my trading. Having it on twitter was nice but it didn't stream and didn't include as much information as what you've got at http://www.orderflowtrading.com/News.aspx

If anyone here needs help finding actual s/r levels from large bids and offers, determining sentiment, or other important market data, I couldn't recommend this more. It's top notch.

You are right Eff, OFT.com as come a long way since the start and the news feed is a great improvement.

Facebook & twitter feed was already awesome with sentiment and order board informations, but now with some more sources added to it, all in one place, it is really great.

Thanks DS

This is the kind of news feed every trader needs to make an informed trading decision.l have been using your news feed in my daily trading,its has improved my trading.thank you

Indeed, that newsfeed is a must. Forget about fishing for infos, all is there !
I'm waiting EU report to plots the levels and I plan my trading day based on that.
I also *love* the small update during the day like "huge bids seen at that level" etc ...

A must.

Cheers,
LhDT

Wow, it's been awhile since I stopped by... Glad you guys are finding the news feed useful. For those who haven't seen it yet, here's the promo text:

The news feed provided by OrderFlowTrading.com will offer you a unique insight into the world’s largest market – the foreign exchange market. We will provide you the latest information on market flows aggregated from credible sources, including major news agencies and interbank contacts. What are the central banks buying/selling? What are the hedge funds and leveraged players doing? Where are the stops and large orders resting?

Such information was only available to professionals, as most retail traders with limited capital cannot afford to pay $100-200 or more for a monthly subscription. Our goal therefore is to make this valuable information available to retail traders as well. Beside the real-time flow information, we will also deliver you the latest order info, summarized in our daily market briefings and continuously updated through our news feed.

Also included in the subscription are the latest forecasts and research papers from major investment banks like UBS and Morgan Stanley. All in all, with this information you will add a valuable edge to your trading method, whether you apply a technical, fundamental strategy or a mix of both. Trade more like the professionals with a deeper understanding of what is really driving the markets and what major players are doing.

Included:

1. 3 Daily Market Briefings (European Open, New York Open and Asia Open) – we will brief you about the major flows and news events from the previous trading session, note key technical levels traders are monitoring, provide you with the order board for major currency pairs and present our market sentiment analysis.
2. Real-Time News Feed (05:00 AM – 06:00 PM London Time) – the feed includes real-time flow information, updated order boards, brief sentiment analyses, market commentary from major investment bank, expiry schedule for FX options and updates on FX-related news and events.
3. Bank Research – we will collect research papers from major global investment banks and post it in the separate Research section. The reports will brief you about the fundamentals, key global flows and bring you closer to understanding the large money’s perspective.

To view the feed visit: http://www.orderflowtrading.com/News.aspx

I have been learning to trade as a technical trader for the last couple of years but it was obvious to me, through my inconsistent results, that something was missing, I felt that 'that something' was possibly order flow so I bought Darkstar's book, which I've found to be a really good read, and it has totally altered my mindset with regard to when I should enter & exit trades, but not just that, as I went for the top package I gained entry into the chat room and I must say that it's a real pleasure to be learning OFT in a live chat room on a daily basis from successful traders like DS, Tyler & Milan.

The latest addition to the service, the news feed, is simply mind blowing, giving accurate levels for orders along with something else that I have struggled with, fundamental news, and if there is anything that I don't understand, especially with regard to news items, I'm not made to feel like an idiot when I ask about it in the chat, these guys are a real breath of fresh air and I can't recommend their service highly enough!

It's quite funny really, I have a trading partner, and one of the things that I used to say to him, on a regular basis, was 'if only I could reverse my brain signals I'd be a highly profitable trader'.....now I have the OFT information I understand, totally, where I was going wrong, I was looking for totally the wrong signals, usually in relation to price action & technical levels, pivots etc, without considering order flow, and getting into trouble time after time.

Thanks fellas, you've given me back my hope that, in the not too distant future, that I will be able to earn my full time living from trading!