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  • #1,861
  • Feb 11, 2013 12:52pm Feb 11, 2013 12:52pm
Quoting Alpha-Bet
First up... traded positions Asia mid to now/ NY. No issues to report connection/transaction.

Formalities done.

Stock up on your olive oil... shortage. Price hike on horizon.
Ah man, well back to margarine, lol
Fuck Forex Factory.Wake up people.
  • #1,862
  • Edited 3:00pm Feb 11, 2013 2:47pm | Edited 3:00pm
Quoting diogo
Beware, Some IB have deals where commissions/spread are increased to favor them. With an increased commission they could offer you more, but has I have said, you might be paying more upfront. Just a thought.

Diogo
Yes, I see you did your homework. Nice. And it’s all about overall/average cost in the end. And security of funds.
Fuck Forex Factory.Wake up people.
  • #1,863
  • Feb 14, 2013 6:09am Feb 14, 2013 6:09am
I started documenting latency and the resulting slippage on 9 accounts (2 of them are pepperstone EDGE). After 6 trades I can tell you things are actually not looking very good for Pepperstone!

It took all of 26.0 seconds combined to open them on one EDGE standard account and
46.6 seconds combined to open them on another EDGE standard account
Same 6 trades on other accounts:
Alpari between 9.5 and 10.8 seconds combined (4 accounts)
FXpig 7.5 seconds
Go markets 25.5 seconds
and finally
Armada 2.8 seconds

Average time to open a trade therefore:
pepperstone EDGE standard 4.33s
pepperstone EDGE standard 7.77s
alpari best 1.58s
alpari worst 1.80s
FXpig 1.25s
GO markets 4.25s (very consistently around this number)
Armada 0.47s (never above 1 second)

Slippage is not that much worse on Peperstone as is the time to open a trade. Will keep on documenting for a while before I take it to Pepperstone. They can't blame the conditions, everything runs on a number of CNS VPS in London (Alpari, Armada) and New York (Pepperstone, Go markets, FXpig). If it's anybody that could do with a better VPS location it's Go markets.
  • #1,864
  • Feb 14, 2013 8:18am Feb 14, 2013 8:18am
Quoting Primi
I started documenting latency and the resulting slippage on 9 accounts (2 of them are pepperstone EDGE). After 6 trades I can tell you things are actually not looking very good for Pepperstone!

It took all of 26.0 seconds combined to open them on one EDGE standard account and
46.6 seconds combined to open them on another EDGE standard account
Same 6 trades on other accounts:
Alpari between 9.5 and 10.8 seconds combined (4 accounts)
FXpig 7.5 seconds
Go markets 25.5 seconds
and finally
Armada 2.8 seconds

Average time to open a trade therefore:
pepperstone EDGE standard 4.33s
pepperstone EDGE standard 7.77s
alpari best 1.58s
alpari worst 1.80s
FXpig 1.25s
GO markets 4.25s (very consistently around this number)
Armada 0.47s (never above 1 second)

Slippage is not that much worse on Peperstone as is the time to open a trade. Will keep on documenting for a while before I take it to Pepperstone. They can't blame the conditions, everything runs on a number of CNS VPS in London (Alpari, Armada) and New York (Pepperstone, Go markets, FXpig). If it's anybody that could do with a better VPS location it's Go markets.


standard live here ~~ I haven't measured exact times but the fills are instant

talk to them about it? may be it's something else causing the slowness
  • #1,865
  • Feb 14, 2013 1:23pm Feb 14, 2013 1:23pm
http://forexmagnates.com/pepperstone...e-in-shanghai/

lol.. this is interesting:

Quote
As Australia’s largest margin FX broker expanding further into Asia seemed a natural progression” Pepperstone’s CEO Owen Kerr said, “We look forward to many years of service and success with our valued clients and partners in the People’s Republic of China

Damn. Had no idea. I knew they've grown a lot lately, but taking the crown.. nice.
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  • #1,866
  • Feb 14, 2013 1:28pm Feb 14, 2013 1:28pm
Primi, I don't have any executions on my Standard account in the last few days (paused my EAs for some reworking of their code,) but when I was last observing execution it was pretty instant, within a second if not faster.

Around the same speed as my Razor, which even today I noted to have execution measured in milliseconds.

Mind you, I'm in Toronto, and just a spit away from the NY4 datacenter (~10 hour drive.) But even if you were in Asia or Europe it shouldn't add seconds to your execution, more like an extra few hundred milliseconds.

Perhaps something else is wrong? Maybe something related to your ISP's route to NY4 and the ISP that Pepper uses at the datacenter?
FXGears.com
  • #1,867
  • Feb 14, 2013 1:45pm Feb 14, 2013 1:45pm
Quoting Jack_Larkin
Primi, I don't have any executions on my Standard account in the last few days (paused my EAs for some reworking of their code,) but when I was last observing execution it was pretty instant, within a second if not faster.

Around the same speed as my Razor, which even today I noted to have execution measured in milliseconds.

Mind you, I'm in Toronto, and just a spit away from the NY4 datacenter (~10 hour drive.) But even if you were in Asia or Europe it shouldn't add seconds to your execution, more like an extra few hundred milliseconds.

Perhaps...
Dah
  • #1,868
  • Edited 2:01pm Feb 14, 2013 1:49pm | Edited 2:01pm
Quoting Jack_Larkin
http://forexmagnates.com/pepperstone...e-in-shanghai/

lol.. this is interesting:

Damn. Had no idea. I knew they've grown a lot lately, but taking the crown.. nice.
Agreed.

This thread is filled with newbies who can't manage their PC or IP connection, and who only trade demo accounts.

Owen Kerr is a serious player.

Pepperstone is a serious broker.

I love trading at 400:1.

I love getting the weekly withdrawals of my profits into my bank account.

I subscribe to this thread just in case there is something I should know about them.

But quite frankly, the most annoying thing is the noise I read from the TWITS (that's Australian for "f*ckwits") who dream of ever having a live account.

I get smart and fast service from Pepper. I've never had spreads including the commission as low as I get from Pepper, circa 1.05 pips on the Eur:USD inc commission.

I've never met a broker that didn't have an outage of some kind. And I'm still yet to have such an outage with Pepper.

All doubters of Pepper should just p'off. The real/live users don't want you on the servers.

The article of the China expansion has been real for a long time.

And Owen Kerr is taking his push as far as he can, and I say "Good on the bastard!"

That's much more exciting than the soft-cocks on this thread
  • #1,869
  • Feb 14, 2013 4:47pm Feb 14, 2013 4:47pm
Quoting dancingphil
Agreed.

This thread is filled with newbies who can't manage their PC or IP connection, and who only trade demo accounts.
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All doubters of Pepper should just p'off. The real/live users don't want you on the servers.
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That's much more exciting than the soft-cocks on this thread
I sincerely hope you have not been directing any of this at me and that this was just a coincidence of you appearing at just the wrong moment.

As I said I'm recording the data and will be taking it to pepperstone on monday with the file attached. I've been happy with Pepperstone from the very beginning and up to the moment when I switched to the so called 'better' EDGE technology. Now however things are not what I'd like to see on an account of any size. And we have a new record:
Pepperstone EDGE standard
2013.02.14 13:00:20 EURUSD,M15: Retries: 0, Entry latency: 18188ms, Slippage: -0.8

same trade, same VPS, same setup, different broker
2013.02.14 13:00:03 EURUSD,M15: Retries: 0, Entry latency: 1516ms, Slippage: -0.2

EDGE servers are not 'on-net' at CNS but it still means only around 1.5ms latency. The other broker I mention here is Alpari which of course means light must travel accross Atlantic perhaps a couple of times before I get my confirmation.

I will let you know how it goes and I have no doubt that they will try to fix it. Mind you I'm not the only one with these problems. FF is not the only place where traders hang out. However if they don't fix it I will have no problems taking my business elsewhere.
  • #1,870
  • Feb 14, 2013 6:36pm Feb 14, 2013 6:36pm
Quoting Primi
Pepperstone EDGE standard
2013.02.14 13:00:20 EURUSD,M15: Retries: 0, Entry latency: 18188ms, Slippage: -0.8
... I don't know how do you measuring the speed, but as you can see from picture below ... it's surely not even close to what you're mentioning.
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  • #1,871
  • Edited 7:56pm Feb 14, 2013 6:50pm | Edited 7:56pm
Quoting Primi
I sincerely hope you have not been directing any of this at me and that this was just a coincidence of you appearing at just the wrong moment.

As I said I'm recording the data and will be taking it to pepperstone on monday with the file attached. I've been happy with Pepperstone from the very beginning and up to the moment when I switched to the so called 'better' EDGE technology. Now however things are not what I'd like to see on an account of any size. And we have a new record:
Pepperstone EDGE standard
2013.02.14 13:00:20 EURUSD,M15: Retries:...
You are hardly the only soft-cock on this thread, yet your nonsense is a case in point.

If you had a genuine bone in your body, you'd be working to resolve any issue directly with any broker you have that issue with, rather than jerking off in public with the exclusion of the broker's input.

Should I guess that in fact you have no outstanding issue registered with Pepper? That you are simply peeing in the wind.

You do not have a clue what you are doing.

Come back when you can report actual attempts to resolve your drivel as dealt with by the broker's involvement.

Anything less is mindless slander against a solid broker I currently use to great effect.
  • #1,872
  • Feb 14, 2013 8:32pm Feb 14, 2013 8:32pm
Quoting dancingphil
Agreed.

This thread is filled with newbies who can't manage their PC or IP connection, and who only trade demo accounts.

Owen Kerr is a serious player.

Pepperstone is a serious broker.

I love trading at 400:1.

I love getting the weekly withdrawals of my profits into my bank account.

I subscribe to this thread just in case there is something I should know about them.

But quite frankly, the most annoying thing is the noise I read from the TWITS (that's Australian for "f*ckwits") who dream of ever having a live account.

I get smart...
I like you.
lowest draw down possible please.
  • #1,873
  • Feb 14, 2013 8:46pm Feb 14, 2013 8:46pm
Quoting ehrek
I like you.
You've got competition. I like me too.
  • #1,874
  • Feb 15, 2013 12:47am Feb 15, 2013 12:47am
Quoting Jack_Larkin
http://forexmagnates.com/pepperstone...e-in-shanghai/

lol.. this is interesting:



Damn. Had no idea. I knew they've grown a lot lately, but taking the crown.. nice.
You have to stay informed Jack . . lol.
  • #1,875
  • Feb 15, 2013 3:09am Feb 15, 2013 3:09am
Quoting dancingphil
You are hardly the only soft-cock on this thread, yet your nonsense is a case in point.

If you had a genuine bone in your body, you'd be working to resolve any issue directly with any broker you have that issue with, rather than jerking off in public with the exclusion of the broker's input.

Should I guess that in fact you have no outstanding issue registered with Pepper? That you are simply peeing in the wind.

You do not have a clue what you are doing.

Come back when you can report actual attempts to resolve your drivel as dealt with by the...
You must be really stupid or have no reading glasses on most of the time.

Every time I come here I come here with an issue and I provide some proof of it. I have a screenshot, a log or something else perhaps. All you have is a big mouth. And the way you're talking yeah, that will be just a great way to deal with your customers when you open your new while label brokerage. I'm sure we will be reading about your success story shortly. And don't worry, it's not expensive. You will fail on other fronts.

As for your comments about why you like trading with pepperstone:
I love trading at 400:1.
There are so many things that come before leverage when you're looking for a broker.
I love getting the weekly withdrawals of my profits into my bank account.
Yes yes you're very successful. We all are mate.
I subscribe to this thread just in case there is something I should know about them.
There is.
I get smart and fast service from Pepper. I've never had spreads including the commission as low as I get from Pepper, circa 1.05 pips on the Eur:USD inc commission.
No complaints regarding commission and spread.
I've never met a broker that didn't have an outage of some kind. And I'm still yet to have such an outage with Pepper.
Clearly you're not around a lot then. I can provide you with a ton of evidence from last year and even some from this year. Just because you're sleeping it doesn't mean it didn't happen. And yes, I did take it to Pepperstone.
All doubters of Pepper should just p'off. The real/live users don't want you on the servers.
Things can go south, it happened before and it will happen again.

And how exactly do you guys work out how long it takes to open a trade eh? I'm dying to know, really. Those with big mouths and weekly withdrawals first please. I want to know exactly and will not take 'everything is fine here' as an answer.

Also would you mind making clear what kind of account(s) you have? Is it EDGE or not because it makes a difference on more than one front.

And in reply to some others that one can have a normal conversation with, you can see from the attached picture that my ping times to EDGE servers are great at an average of 1ms. It's the actual execution of trades that I'm talking about.

As I said a couple of times and will repeat again for some, I will let you know what Pepperstone thinks of it.
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  • #1,876
  • Feb 15, 2013 3:21am Feb 15, 2013 3:21am
The only thing of interest here is what Pepperstone have to contribute about your specific issues.

Venting without their direct input is like a dog foaming at the mouth with a disease I'm not interested in catching.
  • #1,877
  • Feb 15, 2013 3:24am Feb 15, 2013 3:24am
Quoting dancingphil
The only thing of interest here is what Pepperstone have to contribute about your specific issues.

Venting without their direct input is like a dog foaming at the mouth with a disease I'm not interested in catching.
Of course you avoided a direct question. How are you measuring your execution times exactly? Have you even tried?
  • #1,878
  • Feb 15, 2013 3:29am Feb 15, 2013 3:29am
Quoting Primi
Of course you avoided a direct question. How are you measuring your execution times exactly? Have you even tried?
I've never needed to measure them. I click a button and the trade is done.

I've only had good experiences with Pepper. As I said, I monitor this thread just in case something real ever emerges that I should know about.

And you are certainly NOT it.

End your slander of this reputable firm until you can report Pepper's contribution to the issues and trades you report to them.

That's it. It's what normal people do.
  • #1,879
  • Feb 15, 2013 3:33am Feb 15, 2013 3:33am
Quoting dancingphil
I've never needed to measure them. I click a button and the trade is done.

I've only had good experiences with Pepper. As I said, I monitor this thread just in case something real ever emerges that I should know about.
And you missed another question if you don't mind please. Are you trading on EDGE accounts or not?
  • #1,880
  • Feb 15, 2013 3:37am Feb 15, 2013 3:37am
You don't get it do you?

I am saying that I think you are a mental midget who foams at the mouth. I'm not here to entertain your nonsense ranting.

I'm saying this thread is polluted by fools who do not include Pepper's responses in the discussion of any trade where something went wrong.

Attention seeking drivel is meaningless.
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