Something is happening at www.tradeslide.com!

What?! You created fake usernames to help promote your own site? I think you just lost your credibility. Now I wonder how many nicknames have TS Owl created for his advertisement all over this forum.

It's so obvious that the moderator has flagged javicolonbo for "Multiple Usernames". Everyone be cautious with this guy TS Owl, he is saying one thing but acting dishonest himself.

Sorry for the confusion, and thank you mmaker to pushing us to set things straight. Honesty is one of our core values so we hope this thread will help you see us as we are.

So, this account "TS Owl" is managed by one of the co-founders (Juan Colón- check his LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/pub/juan-col...-frm/1/747/6a0) and me, TradeSlide's Community Manager (http://es.linkedin.com/in/blancaalfaro).

"javicolonbo" is Javier Colón, Juan Colón's brother (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/javier-c...B3n/31/468/564) and the other co-founder of TradeSlide. In this forum he wanted to promote our site, yes, but mostly he wanted start a discussion about it. Javier is a trader himself and he had the idea to create a transparent platform that would help traders live off their trading and give good traders the credibility they lack to reach investors. The Colón brothers created this start-up together. The plan and functionalities have so far been very successful with investors (yay). For the past two years the TradeSlide team has been creating unique algorithms which will analyse trader's data and give them a score with which they can enter a ranking (the Challenge).

Rest assured we have no more accounts in FF- Javier has profiles in many forums and trading sites. Before getting involved with TradeSlide 24/7 he was an independent trader and lived off trading, he was trade leader in Currensee for a while.

Thank you again mmaker and I hope we can continue this interesting discussion.

Thank you for your questions Clive! We are building a platform for traders and we are launching in two week’s time. Our algorithms will analyse a trader's operations from their broker's account (right now we can only analyse MT4 but we are adding more brokers). Our algorithm analyses a set of very strict and accurate criteria (we classify this into different badges) including loss aversion or exit strategy among others.

We are looking for great traders but also for potential great traders. Only traders can enter our platform. We don't have “clients”, we got rid of that figure. In TradeSlide mentors are good traders who want to share their articles and knowledge with traders. Our TS Score is the quality seal everyone has been waiting for. The TS Score will be a guarantee for investors to trust a trader and the Mentor Score will be a guarantee for traders to trust other traders and leave charlatans behind.

Yes, every trader can sign up to TradeSlide and try it out. TradeSlide is free. We are sure you will stay. Do not worry if you do not get a good score straight away.

For now you just need to sign-up and we will email you with an invitation to try our platform in a couple of weeks. With it you will get your TS Scor, enter the TS Challenge and start using TradeSlide.

I just have one comment

Since you are analyzing performance from the MT4 record-i have to warn that some brokers may not keep all trading history.

For example-oanda only keeps about 3 months of historical trade history-even if I use ALL HIstory function.

case in point:

my mt4i
http://www.mt4i.com/users/tpotrader
vs

myfxbook (3rd party access to my fxtade plaform)
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/TPOT...otrader/410565

its better when you analyze say monthly performance and store that information on your own database and build from there like my fxstat
https://www.fxstat.com/en/performanc...POTrader-13387


So i'm pretty much screwed if i joined tradeslide now....

Yes, that's how TradeSlide works. We keep all your trading data in our data base and we analyse it. We don't constantly depend on the broker's data.

Our humble guess is you would not be screwed Some badges might take a bit longer to go up if you only give us three months data, like the expertise one (logically). But over all, with three months data you can obtain a representative score.

There are so many similar sites, all offering the same services: Currensee, FXStat, MQL5 Signal, MT4i Trade Mirror, RAPA Cap Intro, LiveForexTrading.info, Collective2. How is your site different? I didn't have time to visit so many sites including yours to find out who's better or who's worst at scoring traders.

TradeSlide focuses on how you trade and not so much on the results. That's the main difference. We don't just throw statistics out of your data, we analyse your technique. This means we can vouch for you if you are great and you are not a great trader yet, we can guide you in your path to living off trading (you can grow as a trader by learning from TS Mentors, watching great traders in action and reading quality content in the Wiki).
Besides, TradeSlide is not an automated signal provider, we give a quality stamp on trading talent.

TS Mentors remind me of 10+ vouches on this forum, people who professed to be "gurus" offering advice on every thread and writing page long posts. Or someone would start a thread to teach, and then be showered with friendly vouches from generous "mentors". In almost all cases, our 10+ vouches mentors don't even have Myfxbook or TradeExplorer.

Mmaker, thank you for raising this very good point.

This is something we've gone great lenghths to tackle by design and one we've tried to tackle by design.

Point 1: @Tradeslide if you don't report your trades, you can comment but not vote - the point being that Tradeslide is a trader, not blogger, community

Point 2: @Tradeslide everyone can post his track-record publicly, so everyone, using our diagnostic tools, can judge for himself/herself whether whoever is speaking carries any authority or not. The credibility of whoever chooses to comment but doesn't report trades is automatically put in question, which is, we feel, as it should be.

Point 3: your status as a mentor depends on the quality of the traders "vouching" for you: good traders carry more weight than bad traders (as defined by the rigorous internal logic of the challenge)

Point 4: circular "I vouch for you & you vouch for me" "likes" do not count towards status - i.e. your vote for someone else who votes for you is automatically ignored.

Point 5: if you frequently vouch for some comment that no one else vouches for, your community status drops, as we feel it should be

Point 6: your community standing is 100% independent of your assessment as a trader: a lot of people are bad traders but helpful & knowledgeable; being a good trader doesn't necessarily correlate with good communication & interpersonal skills. But both good traders & helpful community members have a lot to add to the broader independent trader community.

Hope this adresses your concerns, which we share, 100%

If you have any additional suggestions, don't hold your barrels!

mmaker, whilst we're at it.

We haven't explained yet the rationale behind the TS Mentor program, so we might as well close that gap.
The TS Mentor program is designed to empower honest mentors into generating revenues by coaching the traders at the Tradeslide Challenge.

Currently, most mentors post free content on their blogs / sites in the hope of converting "free" users into "paying" users.
This has several drawbacks, the main being that since every mentor has a site, traffic is fragmented and often good content doesn't get the visibility it deserves: there are literally thousands of trading blogs out there, and some are very good but don't generate traffic (or they take way too long to take off)

That approach is an open (imperfect) feedback loop:
- a lot of traders looking for content never find it
- (worse, many fall for the kind of pseudo-guru / charlatans you mention who claim to help but merely try to generate IB revenues / broker advertising)
- those who find high quality "free" content 1) are not 100% certain to convert to "paying" customers for the mentor and, worse 2) after liking what they read, leave the site without "endorsing" it.

Our Wiki aims to close the mentor feedback loop.

We do our best to help mentors who post their free content on the TS Wiki as well as on their personal blog
- Good trader mentors can post their trading at Tradeslide for everyone to see (this should hopefully take care of "charlatans come mentors")
- Entries to the TS Wiki trace back to the mentor that posted them (i.e. traders are welcome to drive traffic to their personal sites from the TS wiki)
- Mentors help out traders on the TS Wiki by posting high quality, free content (text, comments, videos, presentations, creativity welcome!)
- If Traders like what the mentors publish, they are encouraged to "like" the content
- Over time "likes" accrue mentors a deserved reputation (see my earlier contribution on avoiding the "69 vouching") problem at ForexFactory
- The higher the mentors' reputation, the bigger the likelihood that people will "follow" his contributions
- This increases 1) the likelihood that people click through to the mentors' site and 2) the likelihood that they purchase the paid content once on the mentors' site (after all, if the traders feel scammed after purchasing, they're free to come back to Tradeslide and vent their frustration!)
- There's a dedicated leaderboard for mentors at Tradeslide - i.e. there is a parallel competition to the trading one to become the best rated mentor

This way, we do our best to ensure that good mentors don't go unnoticed. Which helps them raise their profile & revenues, and it helps us because good mentors make our Challengers more successful traders (remember, unlike other value propositions ours generates zippo revenue from unsuccessful traders!!)

Further, since members of Tradeslide can invite new members, we can link each and every trader to the mentor that introduced him. We reward the introducers of our best traders (see our scouting fee), so every member has an incentive to invite the best traders he/she knows.

This opens up interesting opportunities. Imagine you're someone who operates a successful trading school. As a TS Mentor, this person is free to invite his students to Tradeslide: once his students go on to become good traders, they'll be grateful to the mentor because good traders can make money at Tradeslide. But the best is, since the mentors that introduce them have a share in their success they can 1) credibly claim that they groom successful traders! and 2) get paid for being good talent scouts!

Presumably the success of previous students is the best argument for a future trader to pick a mentor?

And the best is: not only is that good publicity; once Tradeslide reaches cruising speed, the money we pay a mentor could become his best advertising!!!

It doesn't get much better than getting paid for (instead of paying for) advertising, does it?

You spoke about "generating revenues" and "getting paid". So eventually we have to pay a subscription fee? If not then how can the TS Mentors and TS Challengers get paid? Who pays them and where did that money come from, if not from fellow members at TradeSlide? Will there be free areas and subscription areas? So a TS Mentor can have free blog or thread, and then a subscription-based coaching room where only paying members can access? I don't like the idea that TS Mentors are feeding on fees from newbies.

Hi mmaker - thank you again for a helpful set of questions

Let's go through them, one at a time

"So eventually we have to pay a subscription fee?" No. Reporting your live trades and posting them for the world to see will always be 100% free

"If not then how can the TS Mentors and TS Challengers get paid?" This you'll see when the time is ripe :-) Either way, at Tradeslide we want mentors who help traders because they enjoy helping out. In exchange for good karma they will get credibility via their mentees' success. We feel this should suffice to attract mentors to the TS Wiki.
In addition to this, since TS benefits from the traffic that good content generates for Tradeslide, we will do our best to make it attractive to post to the Wiki by making Top TS Mentors shadow shareholders who share in our revenues. Obviously we can only share revenue once we generate it, which won't be straight away, and may not be much until we reach cruise speed.
But At Tradeslide, both as a trader and as a mentor, we regard money as a welcome by-product of doing the right thing, not as an objective in and of itself. We don't think mentors solely interested in mentoring for money make good mentors. It's therefore unlikely that they'll be ranked as Top Mentors any way - so it's extremely unlikely we'll ever pay them. Which is why we ask them to make themselves and our traders a favour, and stay away from the TS Wiki for everyone's benefit.

"Who pays them and where did that money come from, if not from fellow members at TradeSlide?" Let's define success at the TS Challenge: being an investable trader. Investable traders are traders that investors reward for their intellectual prowess at trading. Let me ask for your patience if I stay deliberately vague on this for the time being. What's 100% certain is: from day 1 we'll tell the world how investable, in our patent pending opinion, any trader is, 100% for free. Traders of whom we think they're investable will be able to use that information as they see fit (the TS Challenge leaderboard will be public and 100% free to access), to generate revenues with their trading. Initially those revenues will be generated outside of Tradeslide (this is our gift to their commitment to trading). Over time, there will be revenue generating opportunities within Tradeslide. What matters to TS Challengers is the fact that from day 1 they accrue the credibility they currently lack, and this will hopefully allow them to generate revenues beyond trading their own limited capital. Where those revenues materialize is TS' problem (obviously the sooner we share in them the better for TS) but once we tackle the credibility issue (the real roadblock) it's no longer the traders' problem.

"Will there be free areas and subscription areas?" Not at Tradeslide. Tradeslide Wiki = 100% Free Area. Mentors' site = Mentor's choice (free or paid - but that's none of Tradeslide's business). Our suggestion to mentors is: don't waste valuable real-estate on your site with free content - post free content at the Tradeslide Wiki instead - where a lot more traders are likely to read it than on any of the individual mentors' sites. The TS Wiki generates high-quality leads to the mentor's site: 1 ) Every mentor at the Wiki can post his trading for everyone to see (BS caught pretty quickly) 2) Every mentor at the Wiki is rated by a community of proven traders (remember, no reporting, no votes) 3) TS Wiki organised by levels (newbie, etc.) and subjects (money management, etc.). Which means a mentor could become king of the TS Wiki for "advanced risk management" and make a bundle from the paid "advanced risk management"courses on his site as TS Challengers diagnosed for risk management issues reach him via the TS Wiki (remember, traders will be diagnosed for money management at the TS Challenge - along with 9 more concepts, 100% for free).

On the subscription point As you see a whole lot of stuff is free at TS - but this is not to say that traders' intellectual property (the incredibly valuable know how of knowing what to trade, when and how) should be given away for free. The TS Score is a revolutionary step towards allowing traders to market their talent. Since limited talent is very widespread, it will continue to go largely for free. Big talent is very rare, and as I hope you agree, shouldn't go away for free. It certainly won't be given away for free at Tradeslide, and Tradeslide, as a market for trading talent, will have its fair share in it.

"So a TS Mentor can have free blog or thread, and then a subscription-based coaching room where only paying members can access?" A TS Mentor is a trader who chooses to 1) post his trading for everyone to see (we will approve case by case exceptions to the obligation of posting trades) 2) posts free content to the TS Wiki which will be offered free to any visitor.

Any TS Mentor is welcome to sponsor a URL to his personal site on his TS Profile & contributions. TS will encourage traders to rate mentor's contributions. Any trader interested in what the mentor posts is very welcome (in fact, encouraged) to visit that URL. Whatever happens on that URL is entirely up to the mentor operating it and to the trader visiting it. All we do is allow the trader to rate the mentor on Tradeslide given what he thought of the external URL. There's more to come in relationship to good mentors and committed traders helping each other out, but we'll stay here for the time being.

"I don't like the idea that TS Mentors are feeding on fees from newbies." I think we've made it clear that the TS Wiki is and will remain 100% free to any trader, regardless of whether newbie or expert. I hope the previous points highlight the concept :-) On a related note - are you suggesting that workers at a kindergarten should educate children in exchange for no fees? What is wrong with an honest, knowledgeable teacher transmitting valuable knowledge to a committed student, in exchange for a fee? What would the world be without honest teachers' knowledge? On the face of it, doesn't your statement logically amount to "students should be banned from learning from commercial books"?

Thanks for all your incisive questions mmaker - I can see you know first-hand everything that's wrong in the market today. We would love to partner with you to make it better for your, TS and independent traders' benefit!!.

mmaker,

we´ve done our best to describe what an ideal TS Mentor is in our blog: http://www.tradeslide.com/trade-with-a-mentor/

We see where you're coming from on mentors abusing Newbies.

The point is: who you have in mind shouldn't be mislabelled as a mentor, because he's a charlatan :-)

If you look at ForexFactory's Member List(each page count is 50), there are 650 with at least 10+ vouches. I'm not going to help you criticize ForexFactory so that you can promote your site as "better".

mmaker

I take your point.

We launch on March 4th - you'll hopefully be in a position to form your own opinion then.

You're cordially invited - constructive scepticism is a powerful motivator to help us do our best.

Looking forward to your opinion once you see everything we've got to offer

Happy trading!

TradeSlide was featured in a couple of articles, check them out!!

"FX Social Networking / Copytrading's latest entrant – TradeSlide" by Gerald Segal in LeapRate: http://bit.ly/ZfRriZ

and

"Coming Soon: TradeSlide – What’s Your Owl Score?" by Ron Finberg in Forex Magnates http://bit.ly/XrqlF9


Hurry, sign-up at www.tradeslide.com and get your invitations before we launch our closed beta version on the 4th of March!

Is there anything happening here? are you guys in beta right now?

I need update.

Hi TPO

Ironing out the final bits before Beta start. ETA is next week if everything goes to plan.
If you signed up, you'll be notified to join!

Looking forward to having you on board!

I was still subscribed to this thread and was wondering why there were no updates since March 6th. Then I realized TODAY that you created more new threads. Why can't you stay with one thread, but have to keep creating new threads? In your attempt to get more attention, you left the current followers behind.

@mmaker

We have replied to your comment on the latest thread. That is the thread we will be using from now on:http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=422083

Regards,

TS Team