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  • #37,521
  • Dec 21, 2012 5:10pm Dec 21, 2012 5:10pm
I saw this thread and read the thoughts of the person who started it and a few of the others. In particular I'm amused and amazed at the ignorance when people mention W.D.Gann. Most have no idea how Gann traded. Gann's son worked with his father for a while but they had a major falling out and is why John would not say anything nice about his father. Another so called guru who bags Gann all the time is that total idiot Larry Williams. I went to one of his seminars in Australia and it was a total waste of money and a complete waste of time. How this guy can charge for the crap he spews out is beyond me. As for W.D.Gann he was a legendary trader who was extremely smart and if alive today would run rings around just about every other trader out there. He was a genius there's no doubt.

Many people bag Gann because they do not understand how he traded or how he worked out a market. Gann was very smart and he hid a lot of his ideas in his writings on purpose, to make you work! Do the work and you'll see the genius of the man.
  • #37,522
  • Dec 21, 2012 5:44pm Dec 21, 2012 5:44pm
Quoting tradercnx
I saw this thread and read the thoughts of the person who started it and a few of the others. In particular I'm amused and amazed at the ignorance when people mention W.D.Gann. Most have no idea how Gann traded. Gann's son worked with his father for a while but they had a major falling out and is why John would not say anything nice about his father. Another so called guru who bags Gann all the time is that total idiot Larry Williams. I went to one of his seminars in Australia and it was a total waste of money and a complete waste of time. How...
didnt gann die totally broke? or is that a myth?
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  • #37,523
  • Dec 21, 2012 6:58pm Dec 21, 2012 6:58pm
wow, every time I log on to FF it has a new look to it.
Happy holidays and merry christmas all
  • #37,524
  • Dec 21, 2012 9:06pm Dec 21, 2012 9:06pm
Quoting jacson101
wow, every time I log on to FF it has a new look to it.
Happy holidays and merry christmas all
Lol, nothing beats the old M-tech site during the holidays, they'd have snow flakes falling on the borders of the screen.... it would reek havoc if your computer wasn't up to speed.

Soultrader haven't seen you in ages.
  • #37,525
  • Dec 21, 2012 9:57pm Dec 21, 2012 9:57pm
Quoting soultrader
didnt gann die totally broke? or is that a myth?
i WAS TOLD IN A SEMINAR HE DID. bUT NOW IT GETS REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING. Gann, R.N. Elliot(father of elliot waves). Charles Dow,(dow jones industrial average) and the most colorful of all Edwin Lefevre(Reminiscence of a stock operator who made over a million dollars annually in the 20's-40's several times!

1-4 men. All considered the greatest minds in trading and/or investing.

2-All were sick and battled illness and/or alcoholism most of their lives.

3-All died fairly young.

4-All died broke.

What does this tell us?
  • #37,526
  • Dec 21, 2012 9:59pm Dec 21, 2012 9:59pm
Quoting Bakuli
Wishing everyone here a very merry xmas and a happy healthy & wonderful year from a silent follower.
Bakuli, you must be destined for trading greatness,then. Because those who talk dont know. And those who know dont talk. If you are silent you will eventually know all. (Or all that you need anyway. )
  • #37,527
  • Dec 21, 2012 10:04pm Dec 21, 2012 10:04pm
YOU WROTE:

We all human not need agree with each others minds, or concepts or views always.
Humans are very different.
Thats reason why we have markets.


It is also why we have locks on our doors,and guns. And prisons. Maybe for Christmas we should all buy some stock in Smith and Wesson, and Ruger. I definitely am! Traders need protection too.
  • #37,528
  • Edited 11:48pm Dec 21, 2012 11:09pm | Edited 11:48pm
Quoting Silat50
i WAS TOLD IN A SEMINAR HE DID. bUT NOW IT GETS REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING. Gann, R.N. Elliot(father of elliot waves). Charles Dow,(dow jones industrial average) and the most colorful of all Edwin Lefevre(Reminiscence of a stock operator who made over a million dollars annually in the 20's-40's several times!

1-4 men. All considered the greatest minds in trading and/or investing.

2-All were sick and battled illness and/or alcoholism most of their lives.

3-All died fairly young.

4-All died broke.

What does this tell us?
Thats what others wrote.

All men dies broke.
Its only way to die. When we came we brought nothing.
when we go home can't take anything.
Thats because of sound mind and body, they spent all their moneys before they died.
They mostly did something with their moneys.
Otherwise if left too much money hanging in limbo, then comes all the parasites afterwards.
Lead by the taxmen.

All men die because of sickness, is the natural way to die.

Some men die young because they doing exciting dangerous things in their life. They mostly have a life, than sit making judgements and critisising others.
Many many pioneers die, opening new paths in life. Off the beaten track.

They lived meaningful and mostly enjoyable life.
Thats what it tells me.

When men dies , all goes into a box.
Nothing else matters, only the journey after life.
What is done after a man kicks the bucket, is those who live do to show off.
The man cannot even get up tie his shoe lase.
Greatness does nothing for the man.

Merry Christmas.
Its 22 nd December, and i am waiting the start of the new world tomorrow.

Some still measures life by $$$, unfortunately $$$ is man made , means very little to the real world.
when one is capable, $$$ means little,
its those needy who needs it most.


regards

just a refresher, good for thinking.

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If you still cannot get it, then think, what's the tool the farmers use?
think words like payroll, wages.....systems.........
slowly it may come to you.
  • #37,529
  • Dec 21, 2012 11:40pm Dec 21, 2012 11:40pm
death is not a choice but a compulsion. its ok to die young.
happy new year and christmas and new year to all.

regards
  • #37,530
  • Dec 21, 2012 11:51pm Dec 21, 2012 11:51pm
Quoting cuthbert
death is not a choice but a compulsion. its ok to die young.
happy new year and christmas and new year to all.

regards
if one have to, one have to.
Mistakes may hasten it.
Does one have a choice?
switch on the ceiling fan full speed and stare at it and think.
would be easier think if one was cool.

regards
  • #37,531
  • Dec 22, 2012 12:05am Dec 22, 2012 12:05am
Quoting fti
if one have to, one have to.
Mistakes may hasten it.
Does one have a choice?
switch on the ceiling fan full speed and stare at it and think.
would be easier think if one was cool.

regards
chief if life and death are prerogative of Allah. how come one can hasten or delay it??

regards
  • #37,532
  • Edited 12:36am Dec 22, 2012 12:23am | Edited 12:36am
Quoting cuthbert
chief if life and death are prerogative of Allah. how come one can hasten or delay it??

regards
because he gave you option(choice), to have it fast or later.
you have choice how and what you want do with life.
As you choose , so will be your rewards.
Afterlife you reap the fruits you sowed.
Some are given while in life. I can't tell what they all are.
I suspect for every seed, there are life rewards and afterlife rewards.

but he not gave you choice to curcumvent it.
So at the end of it , he analayes it with you.
You kept all the records of it in your recorder.
Your recoder have all the witnesses, all your 5 senses.
in fact i suspect have more senses than 5. Some we not understand yet.


regards

I suspect everything that happens in life have its value, and its deminishing returns after it peaks.
when we returns home, if God finds that our CPU is damaged by too much things,
then i guess he has to throw it into the fire destroy it.
otherwise will pollute environment.
  • #37,533
  • Dec 22, 2012 12:38am Dec 22, 2012 12:38am
Quoting fti
because he gave you option(choice), to have it fast or later.
you have choice how and what you want do with life.
As you choose , so will be your rewards.
Afterlife you reap the fruits you sowed.
Some are given while in life. I can't tell what they all are.
I suspect for every seed, there are life rewards and afterlife rewards.

but he not gave you choice to curcumvent it.
So at the end of it , he analayes it with you.
You kept all the records of it in your recorder.
Your recoder have all the witnesses, all your 5 senses.
in fact i suspect...
so in essence life is given by Allah only to test how one treats it. life is not one's own property then, in fact nothing is, it belongs to Allah and one should not do bad things with something that belongs to the creator. why Allah wanted to test when he be all knowing already knew what be the results of test?

regards
  • #37,534
  • Edited 1:08am Dec 22, 2012 12:50am | Edited 1:08am
Quoting cuthbert
so in essence life is given by Allah only to test how one treats it. life is not one's own property then, in fact nothing is, it belongs to Allah and one should not do bad things with something that belongs to the creator. why Allah wanted to test when he be all knowing already knew what be the results of test?

regards
i guess he all knowing, because he knows all when all complys with natural law.
but when he give freedom, there are some surprises.
when he gave man power to create he opened door.
he knows all that he created, but what his creations create, thats not God's.
only that which God created can only crate within the boundaries that God had created.

Did you see the dog videos?
we knowmost of breed of german sheapards characteristics.
But in certain hands, they recreate monsters.

Anyway thats human understanding of it.
God is at higher plane.
Although we are created in God's image.
Its spirit.
in satan's hands, there are modifications, if you allows.
Some can hold true to form, some cannot, i guess.
But satan not creator, so he cannot create, only modify that which exist by modification thru deceptions.

MAybe i tyr explain it in human ways.
If i could convince you that you can fly by flapping your hands like a bird.
and if i continueously train you that way.
when we come to a cliff, you may try leap off cliffs, with that mindset.

!st thing i need do is to nurture in your mind that you are the greatest, and you exist as natural process.
And that nothing is greater than you, that you are master of the universe.
Then i need keep providing you tools to reinforce that mindset.
then you will try, live up to that.


regards
  • #37,535
  • Edited 1:15am Dec 22, 2012 1:03am | Edited 1:15am
Quoting fti
i guess he all knowing, because he knows all when all complys with natural law.
but when he give freedom, there are some surprises.
when he gave man power to create he opened door.
he knows all that he created, but what his creations create, thats not God's.
only that which God created can only crate within the boundaries that God had created.

Did you see the dog videos?
we knowmost of breed of german sheapards characteristics.
But in certain hands, they recreate monsters.

Anyway thats human understanding of it.
God is at higher...
God is all powerful, all knowing. It is human who is too arrogant to believe that God either knows position or velocity of a particle but not both complying with natural law. God the entity who made all laws now human know a handful of those and calls it natural.

i am off tube. i didn't watch videos.
is better be a human than an angel. only it takes more effort.

regards

is like what they understand is natural and what they can not make an equation of is unnatural. then there deceptions, trying make alogrithms of faith, if this then that.....if that then something else should be......the problem is 'should be'. why it 'should be'? just because it satisfies the simplest scientific criteria of giving a probable outcome.

getting rid of personal daemons is task beyond accomplishment and they claim be objective? bringing into question the existence of God may be makes their egos satisfied.
  • #37,536
  • Edited 1:30am Dec 22, 2012 1:16am | Edited 1:30am
Quoting cuthbert
God is all powerful, all knowing. It is human who is too arrogant to believe that God either knows position or velocity of a particle but not both complying with natural law. God the entity who made all laws now human know a handful of those and calls it natural.

i am off tube. i didn't watch videos.
is better be a human than an angel. only it takes more effort.

regards
you know God is greatest and all powerful and all knowing.
But why you think you know everything about God.
Most of God's stuff you cannot know.
same as we not know all the stuff that a wolf may live by.
Can one judge a wolf's mindset from a man's?

One cannot know God, but one can feel God.
One can worship God, and seek his guidance that we may live in his favour and mercy.

You off tube is by your own choice.
You not want learn from public available stuff, no one can force you.
You want close eyes, no one can open it for you.

why would you want to be an angel?
You was not created an angel.
you was created offspring of Adam & Eve, a man.

regards

One thought
you no want learn about dogs.
OK i can respect that.
but did you read about my story about the 3 blind man and the elephant?
where are you?
What do you think the elephant looks like?

Please be not decieved that you are so great that you know what God is , or knows, or ......
that was satan's err, that he challanged God.
Be good creation, worship your creator, honour your parents, and seek God's guidance live and enjoy the life that God gives you with his guidance.
Pray.
  • #37,537
  • Dec 22, 2012 1:25am Dec 22, 2012 1:25am
Quoting fti
you know God is greatest and all powerful and all knowing.
But why you think you know everything about God.
Most of God's stuff you cannot know.
same as we not know all the stuff that a wolf may live by.
Can one judge a wolf's mindset from a man's?

One cannot know God, but one can feel God.
One can worship God, and seek his guidance that we may live in his favour and mercy.

You off tube is by your own choice.
You not want learn from public available stuff, no one can force you.
You want close eyes, no one can open it for you.

...
is in the domains of beliefs. maximum one can know about God is limited to one's being human. how far one can shoot being human? making fun of other's beliefs, they call it freedom of expression. would it be better free expression to call names of their family? good manners being one gentle man?

regards
  • #37,538
  • Dec 22, 2012 1:27am Dec 22, 2012 1:27am
Quoting fti
One thought
you no want learn about dogs.
OK i can respect that.
but did you read about my story about the 3 blind man and the elephant?
where are you?
What do you think the elephant looks like?
yeah chief, why would some other elephant conceiving mind want ridicule someone others?

regards
  • #37,539
  • Dec 22, 2012 1:33am Dec 22, 2012 1:33am
Quoting cuthbert
is in the domains of beliefs. maximum one can know about God is limited to one's being human. how far one can shoot being human? making fun of other's beliefs, they call it freedom of expression. would it be better free expression to call names of their family? good manners being one gentle man?

regards
this forum also have rules operate.
I do not want overstep their space, althought they gave much liberty already for learning.
Sorry my friend.

you still cannot move on, still stuck when even the world has stepped up say that, that was unacceptable.
Mostly peeps already move on. You still want bite. then you will attract the beast bite you back. And then you will need turn into a beast for that battle.

regards
  • #37,540
  • Dec 22, 2012 1:38am Dec 22, 2012 1:38am
Quoting fti
this forum also have rules operate.
I do not want overstep their space, althought they gave much liberty already for learning.
Sorry my friend .

regards
yes that is true. hope i didn't make you angry. my apologies if i did chief. i didn't mean to.
will try move on. i promise.

regards
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