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  • #21
  • Nov 25, 2012 2:48pm Nov 25, 2012 2:48pm
Quoting evertontrade
I don't want to ...
I think we should let them trade in peace. Most traders are losing money, so why be surprised if someone tries something different.
  • #22
  • Edited 6:23am Nov 26, 2012 5:58am | Edited 6:23am
Quoting GnarlyPips
From your OP, why don't you use wiki to debunk this? Instead of just saying stuff without actual reason...
Consider why I may have wrote that sentence... and then read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolo...ific_appraisal
  • #23
  • Nov 26, 2012 6:04am Nov 26, 2012 6:04am
Quoting sidhujag
i look stupid lol ur to stupid to even know how to quote someone lol u need to go back to school fool if einstien was still alive and reading your posts he would reach out
and slap some sense into you. Learn or
die little one.
Using your post as a measurement of your literacy skills, I think you should consider your own advice.
  • #24
  • Nov 26, 2012 6:20am Nov 26, 2012 6:20am
Quoting Pips_Cruiser
I think we should let them trade in peace. Most traders are losing money, so why be surprised if someone tries something different.
I created a separate thread for this discussion because I don't think it's fair to just spam their thread challenging their beliefs, however flawed they are. If it was a topic like "Trading using Scientology for signals" I imagine others would be less respectful but in terms of the actual methodology it's exactly the same fallacy, using superstition and micky mouse logic as a foundation to trading decisions.

I agree that in general most people will struggle to turn a profit but this is not a valid enough excuse to let it be. Just because terminal cancer generally kills people, doesn't make it okay for faith healers to claim they can remove cancer via the power of god. Why should a similar scenario in trading be permitted without criticism? This fallacy will undoubtedly have the same mortality consequence on a traders capital.
  • #25
  • Nov 26, 2012 2:40pm Nov 26, 2012 2:40pm
Quoting evertontrade
Consider why I may have wrote that sentence... and then read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolo...ific_appraisal

Well, I'm no believer in horoscopes, either.

This is what you should've linked me to, as well.

Something you have to consider about our atmosphere is that it changes, slightly, when it orbits and revolves. Much like Mars's atmosphere, however that one is entirely different to ours. The atmosphere blocks radiation from the sun, so there are going to be areas where more radiation gets through than others. Will this have an effect on people? Of course, it's fucking radiation. However, does this mean this idea is applicable in trading? Most likely not, unless we can find out that cities like N.Y., London, Hong Kong and a few others are getting extra doses of radiation.

There's also gravity. Different parts of Earth have different... gravities... if you will. Gravity can push down a little extra on one's brain and other parts of their body, which could have an impact on their thinking.

There's also the gravity pull of Jupiter, which helped stabilized our solar system. However, I believer that for any changes to occur to anything in our lifetime coming from Jupiter's pull won't occur. It will be millions of years before something changes.

I wonder if anyone includes the Asteroid Belt with their astronomical trading.

There may be a link with the planets and trading, but your link you have provided doesn't do a good enough job to discredit any theories. (Mostly because it's all about horoscopes which are generally optimistic and written by man. )

Just too many things to think about when it comes to astronomical trading. I prefer to keep things a little simpler.
Play the players, not the cards.
  • #26
  • Nov 26, 2012 2:43pm Nov 26, 2012 2:43pm
Quoting GnarlyPips
Well, I'm no believer in horoscopes, either.

This is what you should've linked me to, as well.

Something you have to consider about our atmosphere is that it changes, slightly, when it orbits and revolves. Much like Mars's atmosphere, however that one is entirely different to ours. The atmosphere blocks radiation from the sun, so there are going to be areas where more radiation gets through than others. Will this have an effect on people? Of course, it's fucking radiation....
There is only one line that matters.

"Astrology is a pseudoscience[48][49]:1350 that has not demonstrated its effectiveness in controlled studies and has no scientific validity"
  • #27
  • Nov 26, 2012 3:05pm Nov 26, 2012 3:05pm
Quoting evertontrade
There is only one line that matters.

"Astrology is a pseudoscience[48][49]:1350 that has not demonstrated its effectiveness in controlled studies and has no scientific validity"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horoscope

Quote
In common usage, horoscope often refers to an astrologer's interpretation

I've said this in my post just a few minutes ago. The interpretations are written by man. (That's why they are generally optimistic.) Even then, I don't see an asteroid belt in use by anyone, even though this is one of the biggest things in our solar system. There's also dwarf planets which end up changing everything, and then the change of the horoscopes as well within the century.

I'm a big fan of astronomy, which leads me to believe that even if there is a link between celestial bodies and trading, we may never find it because of the magnitude of our universe. Who knows if the black hole in the middle of our galaxy has any affect on our bodes. Who knows if a sun exploding billions of years ago, even though we may see it today, will have any affect on anything.

To me, the standard horoscope chart doesn't include things it should, however, it may have to included too many things to be usable.
Play the players, not the cards.
  • #28
  • Nov 26, 2012 3:17pm Nov 26, 2012 3:17pm
Quoting evertontrade
Don't get all philosophical, you look stupid and this really isn't the argument to defend.

I honestly can't understand why people don't immediately relate this to horoscopes and other scams?
You opened a thread, inviting opinions on this topic, and then you call those who happen to disagree with you stupid. If you're not interested in the opinions of others, why start a thread?

If you don't believe in astrology, and/or don't believe that it can be applied to trading, then don't use it. Simple.

Personally, I don't use astrology, either, but I'm neither bold nor knowledgeable enough to insist that it's a sham. If other traders can use it profitably, then more power to them.

Some folk can't use technical analysis profitably, and then post repeatedly that TA is worthless junk. It's the tiresome old "I'm smarter than everybody else, so if I can't make it work, then nobody else can" argument.
  • #29
  • Nov 26, 2012 3:23pm Nov 26, 2012 3:23pm
Quoting hanover
You opened a thread, inviting opinions on this topic, and then you call those who happen to disagree with you stupid. If you're not interested in the opinions of others, why start a thread?

If you don't believe in astrology, and/or don't believe that it can be applied to trading, then don't use it. Simple.

Personally, I don't use astrology, either, but I'm neither bold nor knowledgeable enough to insist that it's a sham. If other traders can use it profitably, then more power to them.

Some folk can't use technical analysis profitably,...
I'm afraid you're way off the mark.
  • #30
  • Nov 26, 2012 3:28pm Nov 26, 2012 3:28pm
Quoting GnarlyPips
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horoscope



I've said this in my post just a few minutes ago. The interpretations are written by man. (That's why they are generally optimistic.) Even then, I don't see an asteroid belt in use by anyone, even though this is one of the biggest things in our solar system. There's also dwarf planets which end up changing everything, and then the change of the horoscopes as well within the century.

I'm a big fan of astronomy, which leads me to believe that even if there is a link between celestial...
Your beliefs are you own and that's fine, I would rather put my money on the scientific consensus.
  • #31
  • Nov 26, 2012 3:53pm Nov 26, 2012 3:53pm
Quoting evertontrade
Your beliefs are you own and that's fine, I would rather put my money on the scientific consensus.
You really are clueless. I'm actually somewhat agreeing with you, and I don't think you see that.
Play the players, not the cards.
  • #32
  • Nov 26, 2012 4:01pm Nov 26, 2012 4:01pm
Quoting GnarlyPips
You really are clueless. I'm actually somewhat agreeing with you, and I don't think you see that.
To be honest you're right lol I completely misread your post, apologies.
  • #33
  • Edited Dec 13, 2012 5:18am Dec 12, 2012 9:25pm | Edited Dec 13, 2012 5:18am
  •  Owl
  • | Joined Dec 2012 | Status: FX Siphoner Of Symphonies | 435 Posts
Lol everton you pie ass
excuse my language but
your a complete wanker of balls
if you know what I mean

to start such a topic and to provoke none other than 10 vouch critics and one with one vouch suggests although you scream about scam
you know very well or I guess should I say your pineal gland knows for sure this is no fluff cake walk in he park with a dragon feathered snake oil salesman pitching marketing material about some loonies in a asylum swimming in gold coins up to the ceiling like scrooge mc duck and the other quacks

It's like I guess what one guy up here mentioned you must be in one off those places/geographic zones where the gravity is crushing your head and turning your brain inside out or something of that nature but hey anyways I bet 1000 bucks if you take your natal chart transits for the next 14 days you most likely have all negative/minus numbers in your horizon which features no good events for you lata

P.S I almost forgot to see your natal chart/transits for next 14 days visit: http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/prev lol u wanker u
One Must Use A Noble Rapier To Pierce The Veil Of Mystery
  • #34
  • Dec 13, 2012 5:35am Dec 13, 2012 5:35am
Quoting Owl
Lol everton you pie ass
excuse my language but
your a complete wanker of balls
if you know what I mean

to start such a topic and to provoke none other than 10 vouch critics and one with one vouch suggests although you scream about scam
you know very well or I guess should I say your pineal gland knows for sure this is no fluff cake walk in he park with a dragon feathered snake oil salesman pitching marketing material about some loonies in a asylum swimming in gold coins up to the ceiling like scrooge mc duck and the other quacks

It's...
Okay child, you keep your $1000 and put it in a piggy bank like all the other good little boys. Leave the sensible discussion to the adults.
  • #35
  • Dec 13, 2012 5:56am Dec 13, 2012 5:56am
  •  Owl
  • | Joined Dec 2012 | Status: FX Siphoner Of Symphonies | 435 Posts
Hey buddy did you know even Einstein believed in God
So your I.Q is higher than his and you know all there is to know in the universe,huh?

To set off and settle this meager and useless claim of yours about this subject
let me take you back to school little boy or girl whichever you are


Even in Babypips when you graduate they dare you to create your own system which means if you don't get it
there are literally thousands of ways to trade this market you wanker of balls and chains
even you sound smart enough to even get this but I bet you didn't get it until I just mentioned it or your just a dropout dreaming

So for you to go on so like this isn't a possible method to trade the market says alot about your ego which freud will tell you
you need to let it go and move on because indeed I did just prove you are a complete oblivious pie ass lata
One Must Use A Noble Rapier To Pierce The Veil Of Mystery
  • #36
  • Dec 13, 2012 5:58am Dec 13, 2012 5:58am
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Quoting Owl
Hey buddy did you know even Einstein believed in God
So your I.Q is higher than his and you know all there is to know in the universe,huh?

To set off and settle this meager and useless claim of yours about this subject
let me take you back to school little boy or girl whichever you are


Even in Babypips when you graduate they dare you to create your own system which means if you don't get it
there are literally thousands of ways to trade this market you wanker of balls and chains
even you sound smart enough to even get this but I bet...
  • #37
  • Dec 13, 2012 6:18am Dec 13, 2012 6:18am
Quoting Owl
Hey buddy did you know even Einstein believed in God
So your I.Q is higher than his and you know all there is to know in the universe,huh?
Quote
Albert Einstein's religious views have been studied extensively. He said he believed in the god of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a personal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an agnostic, and criticized atheism, preferring he said "an attitude of humility."[1]...




perhaps you should just go back to your tree and think a little harder about things.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #38
  • Dec 13, 2012 9:16am Dec 13, 2012 9:16am
Quoting evertontrade
I don't want to pollute the specific thread
Very considerative

It's obvious you care a lot, but it's a bit strange to see that someone cares SO MUCH about how I provide for my family.
You're free to disagree with whatever you wish... I disagree with a lot of ways that people use to earn money too.

I disagree with prostitution, killing animals for fur clothing etc.
I also disagree with going to an office everyday and recieving stupid tasks to do from a boss that doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

So I carve out my own life.

Should I really be concerned with getting your stamp of approval on this? I couldn't care less... I suggest you stop caring too...
  • #39
  • Dec 13, 2012 9:23am Dec 13, 2012 9:23am
I am a caring person, however I have no idea who you are and how you provide for your family is none of my concern and unrelated to this subject.

The topic was created to discuss superstitious methods of trading, I think it's had it's lifespan now.

Quoting Sti
Very considerative

It's obvious you care a lot, but it's a bit strange to see that someone cares SO MUCH about how I provide for my family.
You're free to disagree with whatever you wish... I disagree with a lot of ways that people use to earn money too.

I disagree with prostitution, killing animals for fur clothing etc.
I also disagree with going to an office everyday and recieving stupid tasks to do from a boss that doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

So I carve out my own life.

Should I really be concerned with...
  • #40
  • Dec 13, 2012 9:28am Dec 13, 2012 9:28am
I'm one of the peeps posting to the thread you're reffering to, so i'm one of the peeps that (in your words) is wasting money.
So my response is obvious: why do you care how I "waste" my money?

If you want to discuss the methods, join us in the specified thread...

If you consider this particular discussion to have come to it's end, then ok, let's leave it at that then.

Thanks for posting i wish you well in trading!
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