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  • #15,521
  • Nov 25, 2012 2:15am Nov 25, 2012 2:15am
Quoting emmanuel7788
Hi,

I think that my science lessons 40 years ago say that is something called Gravity or it that Relativity?

In trading,

why do we call BUY as LONG... and SELL as SHORT?

Anyone can explain this?
when BUYING price tend to take a LONGER time to move up whereby
SELLING price tend to fall down fast.. SHORTER time?
  • #15,522
  • Nov 25, 2012 2:20am Nov 25, 2012 2:20am
Quoting d.narrow
when BUYING price tend to take a LONGER time to move up whereby
SELLING price tend to fall down fast.. SHORTER time?

wow so simple yet I did not see that.

Now I have more time to add positions when I in BUY mode.

and in SELL mode I must learn to add positions fast enough.

Thanks!
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #15,523
  • Nov 25, 2012 2:54am Nov 25, 2012 2:54am
Thanks, i am getting ur point and am already analyzing my losing trades.... could you also post the indicator in bottom window of RSI and MA cross?

thanks again....

Quoting Vantage
If the comments below are inappropriate I'll remove post immediately. I trade MTF analysis with entries from 5 min. Approx 2 months ago switched to 15 min entry as per this thread. Good results became borderline unbelievable. An old dog can learn some new tricks, thank you my friend.

I start with an analysis of D chart for trend. Looking for:
[list][*]Good candles should follow through the next day e.g. an engulfing close (don't even worry about the correct definitions and perfection did you close above or below the previous...
  • #15,524
  • Nov 25, 2012 2:54am Nov 25, 2012 2:54am
Quoting mary4x
I've been looking for it today also, and I'm quite sure it's the indy at post 14917, page 995. Watch for Ciara's backtest results which she'll probably post soon.
Hey sister,

thank you for helping others.

I hope you have uploaded it and looked to the bottom left corner of your MT4 screen . I can tell you, if you follow it, with hard work and discipline, there are very good chances, you will start making money. Don't forget to read and STUDY Gibril's Journal as well. These are my experiences with the "backtesting". Just finished it. It's a real TREASURE. Thanks to Brother Arjun and fellow contributors.

Ciara
Ideas shape the course of history
  • #15,525
  • Nov 25, 2012 3:12am Nov 25, 2012 3:12am
Quoting emmanuel7788
Hi,

I think that my science lessons 40 years ago say that is something called Gravity or it that Relativity?

In trading,

why do we call BUY as LONG... and SELL as SHORT?

Anyone can explain this?
i am new in forex trading but my understanding here is

Long means increasing distance from centre of gravity and short means reducing distance from gravity
  • #15,526
  • Nov 25, 2012 4:17am Nov 25, 2012 4:17am
Quoting mkfx
i am new in forex trading but my understanding here is

Long means increasing distance from centre of gravity and short means reducing distance from gravity
Short sale is selling something you don't own (you are literally short of that stock holding) in the expectation that it will fall in price and you can buy in lower to make a profit.

What I do know, the definition of a long (going long) term hold - a scalp buy trade that went wrong.

Don't want to divert thread, for alij79 its very close to tdi (which is a 13 rsi, I use 8 rsi with 8 sma). Template attached.
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  • #15,527
  • Nov 25, 2012 6:57am Nov 25, 2012 6:57am
(REMINDERS FOR MY DUMB BRAIN TO REMEMBER)

...Just wait for the setup and go for it without hesitation...trust it solely...before you start your day ...

Just go to HTF say daily or 4hr...and think what wil happen if the price hits this area...if it tell you LONG...what are the supporting aspects /// is there a RN around it///will it reach the ADR at that point.....why it says long there and if i enter at that point with the PA in 15mn...where will i put my SL...and TP..

Trust me these things take less than a minute...just stcik to the basics my friend...when you see them selling just sell when you see them buyin just buy

TARGET THEIR FEAR AND GREED THATS ALL

Loveevery1

...(When I post these reminders, it sort of burn into my dumb brain. Hope I'm not cluttering the thread unecessarily! If I am, let me know and I'll stop. Have a great week ahead guys!)
  • #15,528
  • Nov 25, 2012 7:13am Nov 25, 2012 7:13am
Quoting emmanuel7788
wow so simple yet I did not see that.

Now I have more time to add positions when I in BUY mode.

and in SELL mode I must learn to add positions fast enough.

Thanks!
I think when these terms were originally coined, they referred to the financial instruments that were commonplace back then, i.e. stocks , bonds and commodities. These instruments have underlying assets and generally the price did/does take longer to rise than fall. With today's derivatives and forex too, i think, price moves can be as quick in either direction. So take care in thinking forex prices move slower up than down. Just the way i see it.
Regards
  • #15,529
  • Nov 25, 2012 7:46am Nov 25, 2012 7:46am
Quoting emmanuel7788
Hi,

I think that my science lessons 40 years ago say that is something called Gravity or it that Relativity?

In trading,

why do we call BUY as LONG... and SELL as SHORT?

Anyone can explain this?
I have a Google searched and found a link https://www.tradeking.com/education/...-sell-vs-short which explain your question as follows:

Differences with Buy and Long, or Sell and Short
You’ll notice sometimes an investor or trader may use the word “buy” while others use the word “long.” What’s the difference? It could be very little, or a lot, all at the same time.

Buying a stock (or an option) is straightforward. It’s the resulting position which might not be obvious. As you probably have heard, Wall Street is a unique place where you can sell things you don’t already own. This ability is what creates the nuance between “buy” and “long”. For example, say you buy 100 shares of Ginormo Industries, Inc. Then you decide to exit your position. So you sell your 100 shares. You were long 100 shares, then you closed your long position, getting rid of your shares.

Consider another example: you are short 100 shares of Ginormo Industries and then you buy 100 shares of the same stock. In effect, the two transactions balance each other out. After your buy order is filled, your short position is covered. In this case a buy order did not result in a position in your account. Herein lies the distinction between long and buy. “Long” not only conveys the action taken, but also current ownership, and therefore, it is much more descriptive than “buy”.

The same distinctions can apply to “selling” versus “short”. “Sell” refers to selling something you own. “Short” conveys selling something you don’t currently own, such as when selling a stock or option short. The term “short” also implies a liability exists. Think of this as similar to when you split the check at your favorite restaurant with your friend, but you are “short” five bucks. You may also see the term “write” to refer to selling something not owned, but this word is usually reserved for shorting options.
Accept as it is being!
  • #15,530
  • Nov 25, 2012 8:58am Nov 25, 2012 8:58am
Quoting emmanuel7788
Hi Pervis,

Those 3 bar pullback which I marked are not what the generic textbook type patterns which they call Rising Threes / Falling Threes.

I use the 3-bars pullback on M15 to help look for price pullback to the 10EMA and look for a possible trigger and entry.

Price pullback can be seen in the M15 charts very often - sometime 1-bar, 2-bars, 4-bars and 5 bars ... type of pullback. The 3-bar are more frequent than 2-bars. Those 4 to 5 bars pullback often result in price closing on the opposite side of the 10EMA and then we see if there is...
Thanks you, Emmanuel", I understood what you want to share with us...
I'm really appreciative with you. You taught me a lot other while I have not contribute anything for you and other... sorry about that because I have just start to learn... I'll follow you everyday..

God bless,
You teaching me so you're god in mine.

Thanks Emmuanuel!
  • #15,531
  • Nov 25, 2012 10:49am Nov 25, 2012 10:49am
I ask myself these everyday!! whenever i pass a graveyard...whenever i see the poor,whenever i make money...whenever someone praises me...whenever i buy a new thing.

Where am i in that picture ?
Where is my EGO,FAME,MONEY,FAMILY ?
Where is my GOLD,HOUSE,CAR ?
What will happen to the money i made by cheating,killing,putting others down, when i die where am i going ?
I'm left with nothing except the satification i carry that i have helped few people in their lives....This is stored in my soul.this is the only thing anyone can carry with them,leaving all the other things back to where it came from.......Leaving it for our kids is just to convince ourselves to make more money.


Questioning is the 6th sense.If you dont question and simply believe in whatever others(including me) say,,,,you havent arrived at the 6th sense.You are in the process of traformation.


Note: This is just milky way...one of the smallest galaxies...

http://youtu.be/9EXxzfjwC1A
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Let all the living things live blissfully
  • #15,532
  • Nov 25, 2012 11:04am Nov 25, 2012 11:04am
Arjun jan nice video thank you.
stay blessed.
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #15,533
  • Nov 25, 2012 1:04pm Nov 25, 2012 1:04pm
Sir loveevery1
The view is beautiful., I'm proud of you.
Persian Gulf forever
  • #15,534
  • Nov 25, 2012 1:59pm Nov 25, 2012 1:59pm
Quoting loveevery1
[color=Purple]I ask myself these everyday!! whenever i pass a graveyard...whenever i see the poor,whenever i make money...whenever someone praises me...whenever i buy a new thing.

Where am i in that picture ?
Where is my EGO,FAME,MONEY,FAMILY ?
Where is my GOLD,HOUSE,CAR ?
What will happen to the money i made by cheating,killing,putting others down, when i die where am i going ?
I'm left with nothing except the satification i carry that i have helped few people in their lives....This is stored in my soul.this is the only thing anyone can carry...
Thanks Arjun for this video! When I seen it, I think to Creator of this Universe and I remember the Psalm 19 from Bible:

The heavens are declaring the glory of God;
And of the work of his hands the expanse is telling. 2One day after another day causes speech to bubble forth,
And one night after another night shows forth knowledge.
3There is no speech, and there are no words;
No voice on their part is being heard.
4Into all the earth their measuring line has gone out,
And to the extremity of the productive land their utterances.
In them he has set a tent for the sun,
5And it is like a bridegroom when coming out of his nuptial chamber;
It exults as a mighty man does to run in a path.
6From one extremity of the heavens is its going forth,
And its [finished] circuit is to their [other] extremities;
And there is nothing concealed from its heat.
7The law of God is perfect, bringing back the soul.
The reminder of God is trustworthy, making the inexperienced one wise.
8The orders from God are upright, causing the heart to rejoice;
The commandment of God is clean, making the eyes shine.
9The fear of God is pure, standing forever.
The judicial decisions of God are true; they have proved altogether righteous.
10They are more to be desired than gold, yes, than much refined gold;
And sweeter than honey and the flowing honey of the combs.
11Also, your own servant has been warned by them;
In the keeping of them there is a large reward.
12Mistakes—who can discern?
From concealed sins pronounce me innocent.
13Also from presumptuous acts hold your servant back;
Do not let them dominate me.
In that case I shall be complete,
And I shall have remained innocent from much transgression.
14Let the sayings of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
Become pleasurable before you, O God my Rock and my Redeemer.
  • #15,535
  • Nov 25, 2012 2:04pm Nov 25, 2012 2:04pm
Quoting loveevery1
[color="Purple"]I ask myself these everyday!! whenever i pass a graveyard...whenever i see the poor,whenever i make money...whenever someone praises me...whenever i buy a new thing.

Where am i in that picture ?
Where is my EGO,FAME,MONEY,FAMILY ?
Where is my GOLD,HOUSE,CAR ?
What will happen to the money i made by cheating,killing,putting others down, when i die where am i going ?
I'm left with nothing except the satification i carry that i have helped few people in their lives....This is stored in my soul.this is the only thing anyone...
Hi Arjun,

Your are not only teaching about Trading, you are teaching about Life.
You are not only a trader, you are a wise man.
You deserve all the best.

Thank you!

Kyurem
  • #15,536
  • Nov 25, 2012 2:24pm Nov 25, 2012 2:24pm
Quoting loveevery1
[color=Purple]I ask myself these everyday!! whenever i pass a graveyard...whenever i see the poor,whenever i make money...whenever someone praises me...whenever i buy a new thing.

Where am i in that picture ?
Where is my EGO,FAME,MONEY,FAMILY ?
Where is my GOLD,HOUSE,CAR ?
What will happen to the money i made by cheating,killing,putting others down, when i die where am i going ?
I'm left with nothing except the satification i carry that i have helped few people in their lives....This is stored in my soul.this is the only thing anyone can carry...
The Bible says that we are, with all, like dust and like a drop from a bucket.
Isaiah 40:15-17 said:
"15 Look! The nations are as a drop from a bucket; and as the film of dust on the scales they have been accounted. Look! He lifts the islands themselves as mere fine [dust].16Even Leb′a‧non is not sufficient for keeping a fire burning, and its wild animals are not sufficient for a burnt offering.17All the nations are as something nonexistent in front of him; as nothing and an unreality they have been accounted to him."
And I like so much what is said in the letter of James 4:13-17 : "Come, now, ​YOU​ who say: “Today or tomorrow we will journey to this city and will spend a year there, and we will engage in business and make profits,”14whereas ​YOU​ do not know what ​YOUR​ life will be tomorrow. For ​YOU​ are a mist appearing for a little while and then disappearing.15Instead, ​YOU​ ought to say: “If God wills, we shall live and also do this or that.”16But now ​YOU​ take pride in ​YOUR​ self‐assuming brags. All such taking of pride is wicked.17Therefore, if one knows how to do what is right and yet does not do it, it is a sin for him."
  • #15,537
  • Nov 25, 2012 2:48pm Nov 25, 2012 2:48pm
Quoting loveevery1
[color=Purple]I ask myself these everyday!! whenever i pass a graveyard...whenever i see the poor,whenever i make money...whenever someone praises me...whenever i buy a new thing.

Where am i in that picture ?
Where is my EGO,FAME,MONEY,FAMILY ?
Where is my GOLD,HOUSE,CAR ?
What will happen to the money i made by cheating,killing,putting others down, when i die where am i going ?
I'm left with nothing except the satification i carry that i have helped few people in their lives....This is stored in my soul.this is the only thing anyone can carry...
it´s all about positive energy
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  • #15,538
  • Nov 25, 2012 3:56pm Nov 25, 2012 3:56pm
@wonderwoman

Hope and pray to have you back in the family soon, stronger and healthy!
  • #15,539
  • Nov 25, 2012 3:58pm Nov 25, 2012 3:58pm
The Mayonnaise Jar & Two Beers

A professor stood before his philosophy class and had some items in front of him.

When the class began, he wordlessly picked up a very large and empty mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill it with golf balls.

He then asked the students if the jar was full.

They agreed that it was...

The professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into the jar. He shook the jar lightly.

The pebbles rolled into the open areas between the golf balls.

He then asked the students again if the jar was full.

They agreed it was...

The professor next picked up a box of sand and poured it into the jar.

Of course, the sand filled up everything else.

He asked once more if the jar was full.

The students responded with a unanimous 'yes.'

The professor then produced two Beers from under the table and poured the entire contents into the jar effectively filling the empty space between the sand.

The students laughed...

'Now,' said the professor as the laughter subsided, 'I want you to recognize that this jar represents your life.

The golf balls are the important things---your family, your children, your health, your friends and your favorite passions---and if everything else was lost and only they remained, your life would still be full.

The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your house and your car.
The sand is everything else---the small stuff.

'If you put the sand into the jar first,' he continued, 'there is no room for the pebbles or the golf balls.

The same goes for life.

If you spend all your time and energy on the small stuff you will never have room for the things that are important to you.

Pay attention to the things that are critical to your happiness.

Spend time with your children.

Spend time with your parents.

Visit with grandparents.

Take time to get medical checkups.

Take your spouse out to dinner.

Play another 18...

There will always be time to clean the house and fix the disposal.

Take care of the golf balls first---the things that really matter.

Set your priorities.

The rest is just sand.

One of the students raised her hand and inquired what the Beer represented.

The professor smiled and said, 'I'm glad you asked.'

The beer just shows you that no matter how full your life may seem, there's always room for a couple of beers with a friend.
  • #15,540
  • Nov 25, 2012 4:04pm Nov 25, 2012 4:04pm
I have the Arjun Arrow indicator in the indicators folder/Navigator. What does it look like when applied to the chart? All I see is the message in red from Arjun. I've added/deleted/added several times and I don't see a diffeence on the chart. Thanks for any help.
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