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  • #9,641
  • Nov 6, 2012 11:42pm Nov 6, 2012 11:42pm
he was the first ever GRID trader with only short trading.

I advise you to read his life & then post about him

walker.


Quoting stevewalker
& I think I dont neded to say how he ended his life.

he is a wrong expample of being trader
totally wrong.
  • #9,642
  • Nov 6, 2012 11:43pm Nov 6, 2012 11:43pm
here the link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Lauriston_Livermore

Quoting stevewalker
he was the first ever GRID trader with only short trading.

I advise you to read his life & then post about him

walker.
  • #9,643
  • Nov 6, 2012 11:45pm Nov 6, 2012 11:45pm
no man, do you really think he just had 2 good trades in his life? REALLY? do you know the amount he made in those trades? What happens after does not matter, do you ever read his books? pure gold. Nobody will question his financial intelligence, people always remember the bad but never the good.


Quoting stevewalker
& I think I dont neded to say how he ended his life.

he is a wrong expample of being trader
totally wrong.
  • #9,644
  • Nov 6, 2012 11:45pm Nov 6, 2012 11:45pm
Look at the qouted chart posted today early.

look @ the white tick channel.


Quoting stevewalker
here
D1
  • #9,645
  • Nov 6, 2012 11:47pm Nov 6, 2012 11:47pm
Quoting gino32
Good and Smart thinking,

Just some jesse livermore quotes related to what you just did:

[list][*]I believe that having the discipline to follow your rules is essential. Without specific, clear, and tested rules, speculators do not have any real chance of success. Why? Because speculators without a plan are like a general without a strategy, and therefore without an actionable battle plan. Speculators without a single clear plan can only act and react, act and react, to the slings and arrows of stock market misfortune, until they are defeated.[*]I...
thank you
  • #9,646
  • Nov 6, 2012 11:47pm Nov 6, 2012 11:47pm
Don't use wiki to show me something plz. Im not used to information anybody can edit. I have read jesse books. I really don't understand why you kind of hate him?

Quoting stevewalker
here the link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Lauriston_Livermore
  • #9,647
  • Nov 6, 2012 11:47pm Nov 6, 2012 11:47pm
the importance is the amount of he LOST!!!
read his life.

if you want to see a genıous about trading read Warren Buffet
he still rich & did not lost


Quoting gino32
no man, do you really think he just had 2 good trades in his life? REALLY? do you know the amount he made in those trades? What happens after does not matter, do you ever read his books? pure gold. Nobody will question his financial intelligence, people always remember the bad but never the good.
  • #9,648
  • Nov 6, 2012 11:48pm Nov 6, 2012 11:48pm
I dont hate him.
he was GRID Trader & ended as GRID Trader

- Grid Trading == Suicide
Quoting gino32
Don't use wiki to show me something plz. Im not used to information anybody can edit. I have read jesse books. I really don't understand why you kind of hate him?
  • #9,649
  • Nov 6, 2012 11:50pm Nov 6, 2012 11:50pm
you are free to follow him.
but not in this thread.
he was not a trader.
he was speculator nothing more then that
Quoting stevewalker
I dont hate him.
he was GRID Trader & ended as GRID Trader

- Grid Trading == Suicide
  • #9,650
  • Nov 6, 2012 11:52pm Nov 6, 2012 11:52pm
Warren Buffet also has losses. And really you should be able to see more good things into the caos of something, not just the caos. Jesse was one of the people who perfected pivot trading also the pioneer of something he called when all the factors get together today knows as intermarket trading!

Quoting stevewalker
the importance is the amount of he LOST!!!
read his life.

if you want to see a genıous about trading read Warren Buffet
he still rich & did not lost
  • #9,651
  • Nov 6, 2012 11:53pm Nov 6, 2012 11:53pm
do you know from where he make big money before lost all?

when all world suffering with war & economic crises when kids were eating rats due to lack of wheat & food he make his fortune from those peoples money.

then lost all

dont call that kind of man as a trader!


Quoting stevewalker
you are free to follow him.
but not in this thread.
he was not a trader.
he was speculator nothing more then that
  • #9,652
  • Nov 6, 2012 11:54pm Nov 6, 2012 11:54pm
this conversation ended.
walker.

Quoting stevewalker
do you know from where he make big monet before lost all?

when all world suffering with war & economic crises when kids were eating rats due to lack of wheat & food he make his fortune from those peoples money.

then lost all

dont call that kind of man as a trader!
  • #9,653
  • Nov 6, 2012 11:58pm Nov 6, 2012 11:58pm
I was trading when 9/11 and when the train station in london. I closed up my charts and call it a day. I really dont feel confortable winning money on others people misery
  • #9,654
  • Nov 7, 2012 12:00am Nov 7, 2012 12:00am
back to charts
  • #9,655
  • Nov 7, 2012 12:01am Nov 7, 2012 12:01am
Ended. Just One more thing IF you think i will not short a crisis or other people( Professional traders) will not short a crisis(Paulson +7 Billion profit 2008-2009 )...then you will never become a shark... we eat what we hunt.. you will figure it out sooner or later..

Quoting stevewalker
do you know from where he make big money before lost all?

when all world suffering with war & economic crises when kids were eating rats due to lack of wheat & food he make his fortune from those peoples money.

then lost all

dont call that kind of man as a trader!
  • #9,656
  • Nov 7, 2012 12:03am Nov 7, 2012 12:03am
Good debate. It's true that jesse has his moment of glory and his success can't be downplayed. However I think true successful needs consistency and sustainability, which he didnt manage to achieve. Just my thoughts.
  • #9,657
  • Nov 7, 2012 12:04am Nov 7, 2012 12:04am
prcie made a lower low in CZ zone.
this make the change of direction.

first & 1H & 4H charts
then D1 closed over 2804

then make the direction change on D1 chart.


Quoting stevewalker
Look at the qouted chart posted today early.

look @ the white tick channel.
  • #9,658
  • Nov 7, 2012 12:06am Nov 7, 2012 12:06am
dont you know
Paulson lost all that money
his fund is in bad situation.

how it comes the way it goes!!!


Quoting gino32
Ended. Just One more thing IF you think i will not short a crisis or other people( Professional traders) will not short a crisis(Paulson +7 Billion profit 2008-2009 )...then you will never become a shark... we eat what we hunt.. you will figure it out sooner or later..
  • #9,659
  • Nov 7, 2012 12:08am Nov 7, 2012 12:08am
your 2 examples of traders are not good.
first one is gone
second one is about to!!!

Quoting stevewalker
dont you know
Paulson lost all that money
his fund is in bad situation.

how it comes the way it goes!!!
  • #9,660
  • Nov 7, 2012 12:08am Nov 7, 2012 12:08am
good level for shorts, what do you guys think ?
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