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The gg53 "Killing Zone"

#921
Nov 1, 2012 4:23am Nov 1, 2012 4:23am

gg53
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Hammondz,

i have set up the gadi abo ea v1.2 since yesterdays open but same thing...no errors..but no trades as well. i'm pretty sure there is a bug involved since i tried it on diffrent broker demos n on both my home pc n vps..same thing..no errors n no trades as well.

so far no coders have been keen to take a closer look at middleasterns ea n that is weird cos i think it has potential. maybe we gotta wait for more coders to come on board. any coders here willing to answer the call?

there have been very nice breakouts the last couple of...

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fxprotrader, Hammondz, Middleeastern,

I'm willing to check this EA out - but I can't "endorse" this EA.

My system is based, first of all, on the principal of "Forex is a game of DEFENCE" - and the "Killing Zone" and low volume is one of the corner stones of when NOT to trade.
Gadi_OBV is a great tool to "learn" from such low volume areas - but building a "trigger happy" EA based solely on it, without looking and getting support from the environment is doomed to fail - and not because the indicator is "wrong".

I presented here a complete system that is making money for me and others - based on many safety measures and confirmations - with coherent logic behind it.

But what is happening now is that everyone is enabling this EA on any available currency pair - just to learn that on the long run it will fail - and then abondon the whole very profitable concept because of that.

Middleeastern - I truely appreciate your efforts and they are more than welcome. But the upcoming efforts should be in the direction of implementing WHAT to trade, getting at least two more confirmations - instead of finding an "optimized" parameters which will soon be obsolete because of market changes.

Please DO continue this development project - and I'll try to contribute some coding skills - but this should be done in parralel with the system logic and not by relying on some "Holy Grail" parameters of just one indicator.

Thanks and good luck !

G.

#922
Nov 1, 2012 5:21am Nov 1, 2012 5:21am

Middleastern
| Joined Jan 2008 | Status: Trader | 207 Posts

Quoting gg53

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fxprotrader, Hammondz, Middleeastern,

I'm willing to check this EA out - but I can't "endorse" this EA.

My system is based, first of all, on the principal of "Forex is a game of DEFENCE" - and the "Killing Zone" and low volume is one of the corner stones of when NOT to trade.
Gadi_OBV is a great tool to "learn" from such low volume areas - but building a "trigger happy" EA based solely on it, without looking and getting support from the environment is doomed to fail - and not because the indicator is "wrong".

I presented...

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Hello G.,
You are right. I guess the EA thing distracted some from the core things here. It was meant to be a sort of kick-off to bring more contributors into coding, and from it start adding the other confirmations. No much luck there so far, I guess.

To anyone using the EA, let´s be clear: It only implements one (the Gadi_OBV indi) out of several confirmations shared by GG53 (Gadi_Currencies; Gadi_TickVolume; going down to lower TF´s to confirm entries), so it is NOT a substitute to human trading.

Regarding the lack of trades of the last version, there should be a bug somewhere. That is another reason I thought posting a limited EA would be useful. To benefit from the experience of others and build a more complete, hopefully bug-free robot brick by brick. I´ll check it out later today and try to find out where´s the bug.

Have a nice day,
M.

#923
Nov 1, 2012 8:04am Nov 1, 2012 8:04am

hitman045
| Joined Sep 2011 | Status: Trader | 11 Posts

@ sabrys5769
Can you share your indi of support and resistance please??

Thank's a lot for this system !!!

#924
Nov 1, 2012 8:32am Nov 1, 2012 8:32am

sabrys5769
Joined Jun 2010 | Status: Trader | 228 Posts

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@ sabrys5769
Can you share your indi of support and resistance please??

Thank's a lot for this system !!!

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#925
Nov 1, 2012 8:36am Nov 1, 2012 8:36am

Kasia
| Commercial User | Joined Mar 2012 | 105 Posts

Quoting Middleastern

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Hello G.,
You are right. I guess the EA thing distracted some from the core things here. It was meant to be a sort of kick-off to bring more contributors into coding, and from it start adding the other confirmations. No much luck there so far, I guess.

To anyone using the EA, let´s be clear: It only implements one (the Gadi_OBV indi) out of several confirmations shared by GG53 (Gadi_Currencies; Gadi_TickVolume; going down to lower TF´s to confirm entries), so it is NOT a substitute to human trading.

Regarding the lack of trades of the last...

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GG. Could you provide the source code of last Gadi_Currencies? I have an idea for EA. If result will be satisfactory i share it.

#926
Nov 1, 2012 9:21am Nov 1, 2012 9:21am

gg53
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Quoting Middleastern

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Hello G.,
You are right. I guess the EA thing distracted some from the core things here. It was meant to be a sort of kick-off to bring more contributors into coding, and from it start adding the other confirmations. No much luck there so far, I guess.

To anyone using the EA, let´s be clear: It only implements one (the Gadi_OBV indi) out of several confirmations shared by GG53 (Gadi_Currencies; Gadi_TickVolume; going down to lower TF´s to confirm entries), so it is NOT a substitute to human trading.

Regarding the lack of trades of the last...

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Middleastern,

I briefly reviewed your code.
I think that you meant this EA to work on H1 - but in fact everyone is trying it on lower TF's.

I think that the following is for H1 only (" a=1; a<9 " - seeking 8 previous bars) :

Gadi=iCustom(NULL,0,"Gadi_OBV_v1.3",0,2);
GadiHigh = Gadi+1;
GadiLow = Gadi-1;
for(int a=1; a<9; a++)

Hope this helps.

G.

#927
Nov 1, 2012 9:34am Nov 1, 2012 9:34am

fxprotrader
| Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Trader | 69 Posts

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Middleastern,

I briefly reviewed your code.
I think that you meant this EA to work on H1 - but in fact everyone is trying it on lower TF's.

I think that the following is for H1 only (" a=1; a<9 " - seeking 8 previous bars) :

Gadi=iCustom(NULL,0,"Gadi_OBV_v1.3",0,2);
GadiHigh = Gadi+1;
GadiLow = Gadi-1;
for(int a=1; a<9; a++)

Hope this helps.

G.

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G,

i tried it on h1 only..that is the gadi ea v1.2 , ea loads on the h1, everything looks cool on the chart, no error msgs at all, but funny thing is it doesnt trade even when loaded on 20 pairs the last 2 days.

#928
Nov 1, 2012 9:40am Nov 1, 2012 9:40am

gg53
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G,

i tried it on h1 only..that is the gadi ea v1.2 , ea loads on the h1, everything looks cool on the chart, no error msgs at all, but funny thing is it doesnt trade even when loaded on 20 pairs the last 2 days.

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fxprotrader,

Ok, later on I'll look a bit closer.

G.

#929
Nov 1, 2012 11:24am Nov 1, 2012 11:24am

Middleastern
| Joined Jan 2008 | Status: Trader | 207 Posts

Quoting gg53

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Middleastern,

I briefly reviewed your code.
I think that you meant this EA to work on H1 - but in fact everyone is trying it on lower TF's.

I think that the following is for H1 only (" a=1; a<9 " - seeking 8 previous bars) :

Gadi=iCustom(NULL,0,"Gadi_OBV_v1.3",0,2);
GadiHigh = Gadi+1;
GadiLow = Gadi-1;
for(int a=1; a<9; a++)

Hope this helps.

G.

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Yes, I thought I mentioned it. It is hard-coded only for H1, reading the previous 8 bars.
Had no time yet to check the no-trades issue. Will try to find some time today.

M.

#930
Nov 1, 2012 1:25pm Nov 1, 2012 1:25pm

gg53
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Quoting Middleastern

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Yes, I thought I mentioned it. It is hard-coded only for H1, reading the previous 8 bars.
Had no time yet to check the no-trades issue. Will try to find some time today.

M.

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Middleastern,

Isn't "a++" in the above code going backward from StartHour instead of forward?

G.

#931
Nov 1, 2012 2:17pm Nov 1, 2012 2:17pm

Middleastern
| Joined Jan 2008 | Status: Trader | 207 Posts

Quoting gg53

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Middleastern,

Isn't "a++" in the above code going backward from StartHour instead of forward?

G.

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Yes. At StartHour it reads the 8 previous bars, so it has to go backwards.

#932
Nov 1, 2012 2:54pm Nov 1, 2012 2:54pm

gg53
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Yes. At StartHour it reads the 8 previous bars, so it has to go backwards.

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Middleastern,

AFAIK - current bar is 0, previous bar is 1, etc.
So if you start from StartHour the next bar will be StartHour -1 hour.

G.

#933
Edited 4:41pm Nov 1, 2012 3:15pm | Edited 4:41pm

Pat1
Joined Nov 2008 | Status: Trader | 170 Posts

M,G

To Calculate High and Low of the Asian Session

if(DailyTime<iTime(NULL,PERIOD_D1,iBarsShift(NULL,PERIOD_D1,Time[i]))) // Calculate Hi Lo only once per day
{
NumOfBars=StartHour*60/Period();// assuming from Midnight -0 to start hour . Placeindi on any period less than daily
if(TimeHour(Time[i])==StartHour && TimeMinute(Time[i])==0)
{
Gadi_max=Gadi[i+1];
Gadi_min=Gadi[i+1]
for(j=2; j<NumOfBars;j++)
{
int jk=i+j;
Gadi_max=MathMax(Gadi_max,Gadi[jk];
Gadi_min=MathMin(Gadi_min,Gadi[jk]);
}
}
DailyTime=iTime(NULL,PERIOD_D1,iBarsShift(NULL,PERIOD_D1,Time[i]));
}

My indi below has something similar

Cheers

Pat

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#934
Nov 1, 2012 3:43pm Nov 1, 2012 3:43pm

Middleastern
| Joined Jan 2008 | Status: Trader | 207 Posts

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Middleastern,

AFAIK - current bar is 0, previous bar is 1, etc.
So if you start from StartHour the next bar will be StartHour -1 hour.

G.

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Hi G.,
the idea there was for the EA to read the indi´s value of the 8 preceding bars, doing that at StartHour. StartHour does not participate in the loop. It goes backwards one hour at a time and collects the high and low of the indi.
Do you think it does something else?

to Pat1,
Thanks for the code. As I said elsewhere, my coding skills are limited, so I will have to sit on it a while to understand it. Feel free to replace the relevant routine in the EA and post a modified version.

M.

#935
Nov 1, 2012 3:54pm Nov 1, 2012 3:54pm

gg53
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M,G

To Calculate High and Low of the Asian Session

if(DailyTime<iTime(NULL,PERIOD_D1,iBarsShift(NULL,PERIOD_D1,Time[i]))) // Calculate Hi Lo only once per day
{
NumOfBars=StartHour*60/Period();// assuming from Midnight -0 to start hour . Placeindi on any period less than daily
if(TimeHour(Time[i])==StartHour && TimeMinute(Time[i])==0)
{
Gadi_max=Gadi[i+1];
Gadi_min=Gadi[i+1]
for(j=2; j<NumOfBars;j++)
{
int jk=i+j;
Gadi_max=MathMax(Gadi_max,Gadi[jk];
Gadi_min=MathMin(Gadi_min,Gadi[jk]);
}
}
DailyTime=iTime(NULL,PERIOD_D1,iBarsShift(NULL,PERIOD_D1,Time[i]));
}...

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Pat1,

My version is a bit simpler:

// Minimum/Maximum latest Asian session Gadi_OBV
for(int k=0; k<=Hist; k++)
{
if (TimeHour(Time[k])==AsianStart && TimeMinute(Time[k])==0) jStart=k;
if (TimeHour(Time[k])==AsianEnd && TimeMinute(Time[k])==0) jEnd=k;
if (jStart>0 && jEnd>0) break;
}
Comment(jStart," ",jEnd);
for(j=jEnd; j<=jStart; j++)
{
if (kMax < GadiObv[j]) kMax = GadiObv[j];
if (kMin > GadiObv[j]) kMin = GadiObv[j];
}

G.

#936
Nov 1, 2012 4:01pm Nov 1, 2012 4:01pm

tixy
| Joined Sep 2012 | Status: oops | 101 Posts

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M,G

To Calculate High and Low of the Asian Session

if(DailyTime<iTime(NULL,PERIOD_D1,iBarsShift(NULL,PERIOD_D1,Time[i]))) // Calculate Hi Lo only once per day
{
NumOfBars=StartHour*60/Period();// assuming from Midnight -0 to start hour . Placeindi on any period less than daily
if(TimeHour(Time[i])==StartHour && TimeMinute(Time[i])==0)
{
Gadi_max=Gadi[i+1];
Gadi_min=Gadi[i+1]
for(j=2; j<NumOfBars;j++)
{
int jk=i+j;
Gadi_max=MathMax(Gadi_max,Gadi[jk];
Gadi_min=MathMin(Gadi_min,Gadi[jk]);...

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This indie is great- saves me having to draw the channels- thanx Pat

#937
Nov 1, 2012 4:18pm Nov 1, 2012 4:18pm

gg53
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M,G

To Calculate High and Low of the Asian Session

if(DailyTime<iTime(NULL,PERIOD_D1,iBarsShift(NULL,PERIOD_D1,Time[i]))) // Calculate Hi Lo only once per day
{
NumOfBars=StartHour*60/Period();// assuming from Midnight -0 to start hour . Placeindi on any period less than daily
if(TimeHour(Time[i])==StartHour && TimeMinute(Time[i])==0)
{
Gadi_max=Gadi[i+1];
Gadi_min=Gadi[i+1]
for(j=2; j<NumOfBars;j++)
{
int jk=i+j;
Gadi_max=MathMax(Gadi_max,Gadi[jk];
Gadi_min=MathMin(Gadi_min,Gadi[jk]);
}
}
DailyTime=iTime(NULL,PERIOD_D1,iBarsShift(NULL,PERIOD_D1,Time[i]));
}...

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Pat1,

Your indi is doing someting wrong at the last bar of the Asian session.

G.

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#938
Edited 4:51pm Nov 1, 2012 4:40pm | Edited 4:51pm

Pat1
Joined Nov 2008 | Status: Trader | 170 Posts

G,

The Max and Min are calculated from the previous bar of the start hour. Hence The values of Start hour are not included. If these values are essential, the calculation has to begin once the StartHour bar is completed.

NumOfBars is calculated using the following.

StartHour*60/Period()

Assuming StartHour=8, for a 15 minute chart NumOfBars = 8*60/15 = 32 bars.so the values of 7:45 bar=1; 32nd bar from that is Midnight.
00:00 to 7:45 or 32 bars.

Cheers

Pat

Please download the indi again. Should have been <=NumOfBars to include 00:00 bar value

#939
Edited 5:44pm Nov 1, 2012 4:46pm | Edited 5:44pm

Pat1
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Pat1,

My version is a bit simpler:

// Minimum/Maximum latest Asian session Gadi_OBV
for(int k=0; k<=Hist; k++)
{
if (TimeHour(Time[k])==AsianStart && TimeMinute(Time[k])==0) jStart=k;
if (TimeHour(Time[k])==AsianEnd && TimeMinute(Time[k])==0) jEnd=k;
if (jStart>0 && jEnd>0) break;
}
Comment(jStart," ",jEnd);
for(j=jEnd; j<=jStart; j++)
{
if (kMax < GadiObv[j]) kMax = GadiObv[j];
if (kMin > GadiObv[j]) kMin = GadiObv[j];
}

G.

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G,

Both codes achieve the same.

The difference lies in the number of conditional checks per tick in real time.

Cheers

Pat

PS I'm not sure about the latter snippet of code above. How many times does that code loop per day.

Also noticed that you tend to calculate value from the current to the historic - For(k=0; k<Hist;k++) assuming Hist=Bars-cbars-1; where cbars is indicatorcounted();

#940
Nov 1, 2012 6:28pm Nov 1, 2012 6:28pm

gg53
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G,

Both codes achieve the same.

The difference lies in the number of conditional checks per tick in real time.

Cheers

Pat

PS I'm not sure about the latter snippet of code above. How many times does that code loop per day.

Also noticed that you tend to calculate value from the current to the historic - For(k=0; k<Hist;k++) assuming Hist=Bars-cbars-1; where cbars is indicatorcounted();

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Pat,

The "something wrong" is the session "end".
if you specify "8" it will refere to the bar that "open" at 08:00 but closes at 09:00 on H1 chart.

"Looping" - I'm just calculating for LATEST session and not all bars:
if (jStart>0 && jEnd>0) exit;

G.

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