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  • First Post: Oct 14, 2012 11:48pm Oct 14, 2012 11:48pm
  •  Belaslav
  • | Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 8 Posts
I got into Forex a few months ago, sometime back in July. Studied the basic terminology, the most common indicators, etc. Got into demo trade in the beginning of September. At first, like everyone else (and don't deny it!), I got into it for the money. The concept of making lots of cash just by sitting at home, clicking my mouse every now and then, it was most appealing. Every time I made a successful trade 20 cent trade on 0.01 lots, I would daydream and see myself in the short future sitting at my own house with a laptop, dealing trades with with big figures and feeling most... Well, successful. Hah, I was so full of it.

In reality however, I was nowhere near my dream. Those 20 cent profits were merely drops in the sea of my losses. I would look for chart patterns, make a prediction, lose trade after trade, get frustrated and give up, only to come back and trade, and lose time and time again, again get frustrated and give up. Until recently.

Recently, I decided to up my lot size to 1, and trade with that. Not really sure why, just thought that if I were to lose money at the same rate as I was before, my account would be drained quicker, and I could start anew with a different one. Surprisingly, this time for some goddamn reason, I actually made money. Not only that, I've managed to get back all (!) of my losses, and make 50% of what I lost as profit with 1 trade!

That's when it hit me. I've stopped caring about profits and money altogether. I've just started looking at the chart and try to figure out what the hell happened. And even when I look at the chart now, I still don't know what went 'right'. Were my predictions correct? Or was I just lucky? (Probably the latter. XD) But either way I don't care anymore. Maybe someday in the future I'll come back to that timeframe and figure it in a matter of seconds and laugh about it to myself. Maybe.

I am no longer a trader. At least, not yet. I am now a spectator.

Those bars and how they move. Pesky little things. Always a mind of their own. A mystery that frustrates a lot and sparks curiosity in few.

You know who I think is one of those 5% that succeeds in trading? Those that love the bars. Not for the money and profit, but for what they are. Those that love to watch how they move up and down, and feel the joy when they see it for themselves why. Like Galileo trying to discover the laws of Newton. It's like having a dream of becoming a doctor, getting good grades in school and a degree in a university, only later to be employed as one and earn good money for doing what they love. Like that.

Maybe I'm wrong, who knows. But I'll keep watching the chart, watch those pesky little things go up and down. And observe.
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  • Oct 15, 2012 1:43am Oct 15, 2012 1:43am
  •  metroman
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Sep 2012 | 57 Posts
Thanks for sharing your experience, but actually I do not think that trading with 1 lot is a good idea. Market is changing and even if your strategy works now you can lose everything tomorrow with such a big lots... maybe your strategy requires lots which are bigger than 0.01 but why to use 1 lot trades? you can try something like 0.1 or 0.2. What do you think?
In my trading I prefer small lots and I'm pretty satisfied with that.
 
 
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  • Oct 15, 2012 4:38pm Oct 15, 2012 4:38pm
  •  Pidgeon
  • | Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Seasoned Lurker | 242 Posts
...You know who I think is one of those 5% that succeeds in trading? Those that love the bars. Not for the money and profit, but for what they are. Those that love to watch how they move up and down, and feel the joy when they see it for themselves why. Like Galileo trying to discover the laws of Newton. It's like having a dream of becoming a doctor, getting good grades in school and a degree in a university, only later to be employed as one and earn good money for doing what they love. Like that...
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I hate to bust your bubble, but trading for most ppl is rather boring.
Love, Joy, Dreaming....this has little to do with my trading.

I will say, I've gotten a much better handle on what the market is doing once I switched to daily charts. I can read the candles and figure out what is likely to happen next. No guarantees of course.

Whether you trade .01 lots or 1 lot doesn't affect the market. But it might affect how your broker treats you once you are profitable. But if $10/pip keeps you happy, keep trading it on demo. And if you have $50,000 in your account, feel free to trade it live.

You still have to manage your risk - a 100 pip stop on a .1 lot trade is the same as a 10 pip stop on a 1 lot trade. They both equal a loss of $100. But the market can move 10 pips very quickly.
Disregard all prognostications.
 
 
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  • Oct 16, 2012 8:28am Oct 16, 2012 8:28am
  •  metroman
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Sep 2012 | 57 Posts
Anyway I believe that you should love what you are doing (even if it is a little bit boring), in other case you will not be successful. I'm sure that the real success can only be reached by people who are excited with what they are doing.
 
 
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  • Last Post: Oct 16, 2012 9:16am Oct 16, 2012 9:16am
  •  N-84
  • | Joined Jul 2012 | Status: Junior Member | 9 Posts
Quoting metroman
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Anyway I believe that you should love what you are doing (even if it is a little bit boring), in other case you will not be successful. I'm sure that the real success can only be reached by people who are excited with what they are doing.
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Ye you have to be passionate about success.
 
 
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