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  • #5,141
  • Oct 1, 2012 8:35pm Oct 1, 2012 8:35pm
Quoting Almondeyed
A soft aspect of the ruling planet should bring good news for Euro? Or because both Saturn and Neptune are in water signs we should expect emotions take control? Or something else?
Well, lets analyse how Gann did it:

On friday the trine between saturn and neptune is most powerfull as saturn shifts into scorpio.
On that same day mars is square with neptune, mercury conjunct saturn, uranus is still square with pluto, and jupiter is conjunct with the moon and trine to the sun. Jupiter/moon - sun is in an air sign, saturn-neptune in a water sign. Jupiter is weak in gemini, sun is weak in libra. Neptune very strong in pisces.

So, that is where it begins. But, neptune will turn retrograde, the energy will turn. The exact day of the trine is october 10, when neptune is already retrograde. Looking at the natal euro chart, transit saturn is in the 2nd house of the euro, the house of money, very malific.
It is trine with transit neptune(r) and square with natal neptune.

This to me is not good. Neptune is deceipt, saturn is the grim reaper, the great equalizer, mercury in the mix may mean some communication thereof. Venus is leaving the 11th house of the euro, the 11th house is the house of friends, those who support the euro are leaving. Sun is conjunct mars in the 1st house. The first house is the image of the euro, the way other people see the euro, this is a malific aspect.

What else did Gann do. He looked at his own horoscope before he made a trade. Was his mind clear, was he lucky, etc.

He looked at the planetary support/resistance. Saturn - Neptune levels are between 1.29 and 1.34. The aspect is actually a 240 degree aspect so take care with price determination.

Then he used horary but I am not in to that, so cannot comment.
So, what will happen? Who knows? Euro is under pressure that is for sure, you don't need to be a brain-surgeon to determine that. The problem is that USA is inflating the dollar and that offsets any euro move. I would need to analyse that as well to come to a conclusion. Plus the pluto square is in the mix very unpredictable.

I will leave it at that, for now.
  • #5,142
  • Oct 1, 2012 9:37pm Oct 1, 2012 9:37pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
Okay, and then what?
Venus rules money in general
Saturn also rules the EUR.
So, what will happen?
Then we open a chart AND our history, we have a look what price statistically did during the respective Venus, Sun and Saturn events, and draw these on the chart for the current moment. Then we see the main average price movement for all events simultaniously and play them like any normal S/R breakout. But looking at just one (or in this case three) isn't really giving the full picture of course.
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  • #5,143
  • Oct 1, 2012 10:12pm Oct 1, 2012 10:12pm
There are, however, some people who believe that trading breakouts while not trading full-time is a bit difficult. So in order to be able to spend some time on other things than trading you'd need either a breakout with substantial lots or a swing of some sorts.

Obviously making swing calls requires these lines above to be taken for what they are, historical average price movements. And so, they could be combined into 1 big average movement of all planets involved at any particular time. That works, but not all the time. But hey, what strategy does in the end work all the time? I think only HolyGrail(TM) does, and that's not for sale.

Also, as you rightly stated, one needs to keep an eye on their own horoscope while trading astro. Many of the minor horoscopical issues that can obstruct you from trading can be remedied by focusing on the issue and recite mantras that affect that particular planet that needs more attention. But that's something for people who really understand how things work together and I've been accused many times before to say things that have nothing to do with making trading calls, so i'll not expound on the personal allignment.

Obviously the people that believe this forum has no room for other discussions than just trade-calls have an illegal copy of HolyGrail(TM) and do not need to work on themselves. I have not found the link to download this strategy, so I'm not that lucky as they are.
  • #5,144
  • Oct 2, 2012 2:53am Oct 2, 2012 2:53am
Thanks guys for visionary posts..
  • #5,145
  • Oct 2, 2012 5:14am Oct 2, 2012 5:14am
Quoting Sti
Also, as you rightly stated, one needs to keep an eye on their own horoscope while trading astro. Many of the minor horoscopical issues that can obstruct you from trading can be remedied by focusing on the issue and recite mantras that affect that particular planet that needs more attention.
Can u plz suggest what issues or particulars to look in horoscope for the trading matter? Or any link where I can check my horoscope for such obstructions if I have any in mine? Thanks.
  • #5,146
  • Oct 2, 2012 5:34am Oct 2, 2012 5:34am
Quoting goddevil
Can u plz suggest what issues or particulars to look in horoscope for the trading matter? Or any link where I can check my horoscope for such obstructions if I have any in mine? Thanks.
There are basically two things that you should look at in terms of personal horoscopes, the first is a standard natal chart, that should give you insights in any aspects that influence you as a person in general. You'd be looking at the big planets like jupiter and satrun to get a feel of large cycles in your life. For example I had jupiter at opposition to sun at my birth, every time jupiter goes through certain longitudes i feel a lot of aggression... that influences me as a trader obviously.

Secondly you'd make a natal-transit for the current moment to see how the you'd do with a trade, here you gain insight in both you as a person in long term cycles (where you stand on the ladder) and the short term advantages that you can take in life (like opening a short or long order).

I hope that gets you on your way a little?
  • #5,147
  • Oct 2, 2012 8:39am Oct 2, 2012 8:39am
I'll show my chart with some planetary levels from Gann TTTA and other resources.
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  • #5,148
  • Oct 2, 2012 8:51am Oct 2, 2012 8:51am
Some more...
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  • #5,149
  • Oct 2, 2012 11:48am Oct 2, 2012 11:48am
Quoting Ilovepippin
I'll show my chart with some planetary levels from Gann TTTA and other resources.
Fantastic stuff and very nice of you Pippin... There is a lot there to take in!! Thanks a lot!

Warm Regards,
Dolemite
  • #5,150
  • Oct 3, 2012 12:48am Oct 3, 2012 12:48am
jupiter declination and latitude analysis
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  • #5,151
  • Oct 3, 2012 1:05am Oct 3, 2012 1:05am
Quoting Sti
There are basically two things that you should look at in terms of personal horoscopes, the first is a standard natal chart, that should give you insights in any aspects that influence you as a person in general. You'd be looking at the big planets like jupiter and satrun to get a feel of large cycles in your life. For example I had jupiter at opposition to sun at my birth, every time jupiter goes through certain longitudes i feel a lot of aggression... that influences me as a trader obviously.

Secondly you'd make a natal-transit for the current...
Thanks for the reply. Since I don't have knowledge in astrology, didn't understood much and don't know how to check all those natal transit or what Jupiter and Saturn positions in my chart say. However, I hope others can also benefit reading your suggestion.
  • #5,152
  • Oct 3, 2012 2:23am Oct 3, 2012 2:23am
Quoting goddevil
Thanks for the reply. Since I don't have knowledge in astrology, didn't understood much and don't know how to check all those natal transit or what Jupiter and Saturn positions in my chart say. However, I hope others can also benefit reading your suggestion.
Well, i guess the first two steps for that are reading up a little bit on standard astrology and then pick a good source for natal and transit-natal interpretations. I myself tend to not use placidius houses or tropical zodiacs that much, i'm probably more in the camp of sidereal astrology, but in terms of true longitude transit-natal aspects, the results are the same irregardless of what system you use (minor variations excluded).

But ILovePippin is using the houses a lot, and i can see that his mundane analysis have merrit, so there is something to say for everything. You'd need to know the time of birth though for natal-house analysis, and again, where i am located people tend not to know exact times of birth, so i mostly can't use these houses anyway.
  • #5,153
  • Oct 3, 2012 3:30am Oct 3, 2012 3:30am
These are my music notes and fibonacci price levels. Up to now music scale has responded very well in changing direction. So I think the bottom of the last reaction came as time has just passed last DO note. Also experimenting some up movement. But still I am experimenting with them and not sure about anything

http://i48.tinypic.com/2nve99e.jpg
  • #5,154
  • Oct 3, 2012 1:38pm Oct 3, 2012 1:38pm
Aussie in a triangle on daily.

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  • #5,155
  • Oct 5, 2012 2:11am Oct 5, 2012 2:11am
In my experience, any talk of the more esoteric techniques would get you laughed out of any professional position, certainly a career ending move. Even standard technical analysis is frowned upon, unless entirely quantitative.

Russian banks dont count sti heeheehee

Luckily the internets provided refuge from the skeptical eyes of colleagues and peers, like this great thread
  • #5,156
  • Oct 5, 2012 7:59am Oct 5, 2012 7:59am
Quoting tpaulbeaumon
In my experience, any talk of the more esoteric techniques would get you laughed out of any professional position, certainly a career ending move. Even standard technical analysis is frowned upon, unless entirely quantitative.

Russian banks dont count sti heeheehee

Luckily the internets provided refuge from the skeptical eyes of colleagues and peers, like this great thread
Today at 4pm EST saturn will ingress into scorpio and form a trine with neptune. Saturn will be in the 8th house when this happens.
Saturn is conjunct with mercury, the planet of communication.
Neptune is the planet of deceipt.
For us traders it is important to know that saturn is the prime significator of the euro. Anything that happens to this planets reflects the euro. (only the euro part of a currency pair).

Also it is important to know that saturn is out of libra and that the countries that libra represents will now come out of their stock slumps. The countries that are represented by scorpio will now enter a depression.

One of the countries scorpio represents is the part of spain called catelonia. Also Norway, Brazil, and Syria a.o..

So, useful information.
Jupiter went retrograde.
  • #5,157
  • Oct 5, 2012 8:27am Oct 5, 2012 8:27am
And you may want to know that jupiter is in gemini and gemini governs over the USA.
  • #5,158
  • Oct 5, 2012 6:06pm Oct 5, 2012 6:06pm
Quoting goddevil
Can u plz suggest what issues or particulars to look in horoscope for the trading matter? Or any link where I can check my horoscope for such obstructions if I have any in mine? Thanks.
goddevil, first of all, which one is your name? God or devil? LOL, kidding.

One option as answer to your question would be using Nakshatras (Moon mansions) and transit of Moon in them. There is simple explanation in pdf I posted waaay back, Sarvatobhadra chakra and astrological predictions, page 11, 42, 43 & complete chapter "Forecasting methodology - how to determine benefic Muhurta" (Muhurta = auspicious time for action or starting an event or having a good ***, but *** is 99% good so no need to forecast that, right? LOL!). You can find this title on SCRIB*, beside some more beautifuly re-edited books on Vedic financial astrology topic.

What I did is:
- printed Kal Purusha (zodiac with signs and Moon mansions)
- glued it on cardboard, neatly cutted to fit (irrelevant)
- marked good and bad Nakshatras from my natal Chandr (Moon)
- pulled out some color-head pins
- now I keep an eye on movement of Chandr around those Nakshatras (you should read those Vedic stories (myths) that explain "history" of Grahas (planets) - no wonder earth is such a messy place nowadays!*) and track good (green pin) and bad (red pin) days.

There is another method - if you spill your coffee (or tea) first thing in the morning, break your leg (or arm), if Boeing 707 landing gear lands on your car (or house) - DO NOT TRADE! All other days you may trade. (OK, I just made that up, but, you, my dear fellows, must admit this has some merrit.) LOL.

Missed you guys! Sooo busy.

Just droped in to let you know you are still my favorite Co. and this is still my favorite thread! So sorry I can not participate more, but we are on different wavelenghts - me Tarzan, you Jane! Me sidereal, you tropical!

But, for the benefit of the future generations, sharing my 0,1 cents! LOL!

Short description of my approach to research.

Besta regarda,

Simon

* - i.e., Chandr (Moon) has seduced Guru's (Jupiter) wife and had a *** with her and guess what happened?! Budh (Mercury) was born! Naughty naughty Chandr! Guru took him (Budh) for his own. Looks like Chandr was not interested in long-term relationship with commitments.
BTW, Budh & Chandr belong to trading class, Sukr (Venus) rules buying and selling. Main trading Grahas (planets) are Guru, Budh and Sukr. They rule banking, stocks, foreign exchange, but Rahu (Dragon's head) and Ketu (Dragon's tail) rule export & import - this is basicaly what FX is, or what?
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  • #5,159
  • Oct 5, 2012 6:11pm Oct 5, 2012 6:11pm
Quoting Fx-Idu
These are my music notes and fibonacci price levels. Up to now music scale has responded very well in changing direction. So I think the bottom of the last reaction came as time has just passed last DO note. Also experimenting some up movement. But still I am experimenting with them and not sure about anything

http://i48.tinypic.com/2nve99e.jpg
Idu, looks like you need to use Indian semi-tone scale (like Sitar). Just kidding, no offence. Excellent post, I had similar (ultra-quick) research, just did not know how to apply scale on chart. Brilliant, how do you do that?!

Simon
  • #5,160
  • Oct 6, 2012 11:19am Oct 6, 2012 11:19am
Quoting Chistabo
Idu, looks like you need to use Indian semi-tone scale (like Sitar). Just kidding, no offence. Excellent post, I had similar (ultra-quick) research, just did not know how to apply scale on chart. Brilliant, how do you do that?!

Simon
Thanks Simon. I changed the ratios of Fibonacci time tool to the music scale and named them as DO,RE,MI..... So we can fix only two points in this tool. I first placed my first DO note at a top or a bottom and then tried to place other notes as much as they fall in tops and bottoms with a good accuracy by changing the length of the tool. you can try different configurations and get the best fit. In this case almost all the notes have good hits. I think placing this tool so that at least 5 or 6 notes fall well on tops and bottoms will give good results.

I dont have much experience with this and I am still doing experiments on these things. So if there is anyone with a good experience with using this tool, please share the experiences
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