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How to check if market is closed/opened (mt4)

  • #1
  • First Post: Sep 17, 2012 2:07pm Sep 17, 2012 2:07pm
Is there any way to programatically detect the event of the market getting closed in metatrader?
  • #2
  • Sep 17, 2012 2:18pm Sep 17, 2012 2:18pm
To keep things as simple as possible, just compare Hour() to the closing time of your broker on Friday. Something like:

Inserted Code
If (DayOfWeek() == 5 && Hour() > CloseTime - WarnHours) // do something

CloseTime and WarnHours are int variables you fill in with the appropriate values for your situation.
  • #3
  • Sep 17, 2012 2:51pm Sep 17, 2012 2:51pm
Thank you for the reply, however I was looking for more universal approach since I need this to work on different brokers and some brokers support symbols which are not opened during the whole day.
  • #4
  • Sep 17, 2012 3:10pm Sep 17, 2012 3:10pm
Well I guess I wasted my time. Perhaps you should be more detailed when making requests. I can't help you because what you want would take more effort than I am prepared to give.
  • #5
  • Sep 17, 2012 4:02pm Sep 17, 2012 4:02pm
Then perhaps you can tell me what figure in us dollars will make you stop feeling like your time is being wasted and will motivate you to provide an universal solution to this problem ?
  • #6
  • Sep 17, 2012 5:51pm Sep 17, 2012 5:51pm
Quoting metyyyy
Then perhaps you can tell me what figure in us dollars will make you stop feeling like your time is being wasted and will motivate you to provide an universal solution to this problem ?
lol. can i get a pony for my efforts? i will name him gregory mcfluffytail!

you could stick an indicator on your chart that tracks the pc gettickcount timestamp vals of when the last market tick was received. then just icustom call into this indicator to retrieve that timestamp.

i.e. if the market is open you will receive ticks of some sort within some tolerance of time, even in low-liquidity. if your indicator hasn't received a tick for some tolerance of time then you can take a guess that the market is closed. bit of a kludge solution, but some things are like that.

Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #7
  • Sep 18, 2012 4:08am Sep 18, 2012 4:08am
Thank you for the idea, however I already tried that and it turns out that for some symbols the timeout between ticks is changing a lot.
  • #8
  • Sep 18, 2012 4:27am Sep 18, 2012 4:27am
Quoting metyyyy
Thank you for the idea, however I already tried that and it turns out that for some symbols the timeout between ticks is changing a lot.
maybe elaborate more on what you are trying to accomplish. your question is odd since if the market isn't open then there's no trade to make and ea's / indicators therefore don't even fire, and then to want it to be more 'universal' in auto-detecting instead of just some manual user set time...

perhaps your end-goal might be more conducive to a completely different approach, but this is just speculation on my part since i'm mildly curious.

edit : your initial question made it sound like you wanted to detect if 'now' the market was closed. if you are chasing more the general times of when the market is done for the week then you could just step through the last 2 or 3 weeks of available history to find where there is a gap of roughly a day and a half'ish. market open / close is a misnomer anyway, according to some.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #9
  • Sep 18, 2012 4:42am Sep 18, 2012 4:42am
I have EA which displays a lot of information on the chart. I want to be able to detect when is the last tick for the trade day and erase everything, so the EA does not show outdated information. I guess this is impossible.
  • #10
  • Sep 18, 2012 4:56am Sep 18, 2012 4:56am
Quoting metyyyy
I have EA which displays a lot of information on the chart. I want to be able to detect when is the last tick for the trade day and erase everything, so the EA does not show outdated information. I guess this is impossible.
wait... for the trade day, or trade week? one is a case of matching timezones and is simple while the other is a case of trying to figure-out when the brokers cleaning lady unplugs the server laptop on the weekend to plug her vacuum in. :/
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #11
  • Sep 18, 2012 5:38am Sep 18, 2012 5:38am
Quoting metyyyy
I have EA which displays a lot of information on the chart. I want to be able to detect when is the last tick for the trade day and erase everything, so the EA does not show outdated information. I guess this is impossible.
metyyyy-
Have you tried trapping the 132 error?
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=341796
  • #12
  • Sep 18, 2012 2:45pm Sep 18, 2012 2:45pm
Quoting metyyyy
Then perhaps you can tell me what figure in us dollars will make you stop feeling like your time is being wasted and will motivate you to provide an universal solution to this problem ?
Until you have a clear idea of what you want and can communicate it effectively, I have no interest in this project. Wishful thinking and vague wording don't cut with me and most coders.
  • #13
  • Sep 18, 2012 9:25pm Sep 18, 2012 9:25pm
Quoting metyyyy
I have EA which displays a lot of information on the chart. I want to be able to detect when is the last tick for the trade day and erase everything, so the EA does not show outdated information. I guess this is impossible.
This is like trying to identify if a man is dead or not.
You want to detect his death by asking him: "Are you dead now" ?
Do you think he would be able to tell you: "Yes, a second ago I died. Now I am dead and you can bury me."

Think about it.
An EA works only if a tick comes from the broker.

There is no such thing as the broker sending "the last tick of the day" which has the information "hey coder, this is the last tick of this day. After this tick the market is closed".

In other words: you cannot detect the last tick because you would need the next tick after that "last tick", but the next tick will not come because the market is dead until it will be re-opened.

Only way to detect the last tick is either asking the broker or to run the EA tick-independent
and in that mode to send a pending order to the broker.
Then you will get error 132 = market is closed

Asking the broker = the user has to insert the appropriate market close of his broker in your EA parameters.

Quoting CodeMeister
Until you have a clear idea of what you want and can communicate it effectively, I have no interest in this project. Wishful thinking and vague wording don't cut with me and most coders.
Yes, there are plenty of horrible requests which I skip all because
they are written in a vague and often confusing wording.
Sometimes it is a matter of translation machines but sometimes
it is the inability to express things in an understandable way.
  • #14
  • Sep 18, 2012 11:54pm Sep 18, 2012 11:54pm
Quoting metyyyy
I have EA which displays a lot of information on the chart. I want to be able to detect when is the last tick for the trade day and erase everything, so the EA does not show outdated information. I guess this is impossible.
Maybe I have missed the point on this and people are making this over complicated. why not wait until Saturday morning and clear down the data than.
  • #15
  • Sep 19, 2012 12:14am Sep 19, 2012 12:14am
Quoting Carpeuk
Maybe I have missed the point on this and people are making this over complicated. why not wait until Saturday morning and clear down the data than.
Because in post #3 he suddenly specified his request

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Thank you for the reply, however I was looking for more universal approach since I need this to work on different brokers and some brokers support symbols which are not opened during the whole day.

The problem with such requests: they start with a riddle, with cryptic language which leaves room for dozens of interpretations.

Such thread starters drag people along and it is necessary to ask them many questions until they reveal what they really want.
Sometimes they even donīt know that.
  • #16
  • Sep 19, 2012 12:36am Sep 19, 2012 12:36am
Quoting Carpeuk
Maybe I have missed the point on this and people are making this over complicated. why not wait until Saturday morning and clear down the data than.
so basically you didn't read the thread.

....

anyway, the ordersend solution is an interesting idea, except for the fact that you can't continually ordersend all day and night testing if the broker will accept an order or not. they, understandably, tend to frown upon bogus orders being sent non-stop.

some things are just better-off handled manually. i think this is one of those things.

on a side-note : this thread isn't one of them, but just to take a drink of the haterade i'm noticing more and more absolute amateurs jumping in this part of the forum with totally retarded questions lately. it blows my mind how stupid some of the questions are. it's like they are headed for the rookie section but take a wrong turn and end-up in platform tech where they do not belong. just.... go away!
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #17
  • Sep 19, 2012 1:16am Sep 19, 2012 1:16am
Quoting nubcake
anyway, the ordersend solution is an interesting idea, except for the fact that you can't continually ordersend all day and night testing if the broker will accept an order or not. they, understandably, tend to frown upon bogus orders being sent non-stop.
The ordersend has to be combined with a check of the timestamp of the last received tick.
If a defined amount of time has gone by and the last-tick-received-time has not changed, the EA checks market-open/close with a pending order.

Of course this is only possible with fake-ticks fired externally with a script or another tool (like Mt4TickSender from fx1.net) or internally in the EA.
  • #18
  • Sep 19, 2012 1:34am Sep 19, 2012 1:34am
Quoting fxtr51
The ordersend has to be combined with a check of the timestamp of the last received tick.
If a defined amount of time has gone by and the last-tick-received-time has not changed, the EA checks market-open/close with a pending order.

Of course this is only possible with fake-ticks fired externally with a script or another tool (like Mt4TickSender from fx1.net) or internally in the EA.
but , what you have said is just saying after some arbitrary amount of time it's again now time to retest the order send result. i understand this. depending on how someone defines this arbitrary time will govern how angry the broker will get. when do you retest? after 1 second? 1 minute? 1 hour?

obviously once an hour is not much of an issue, but once a minute or more is going to result in a call from the broker or a new policy of order sends costing $x after some number of sends have been used per week or something such-like.

that was the point i was making. after a certain point you can't harass the server with bogus orders without making the broker cranky. you just can't do it.

it seems like this whole exercise is a case of diminishing returns. the possible solutions are inelegant so far, and the purpose of it all is unclear.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #19
  • Sep 19, 2012 3:29am Sep 19, 2012 3:29am
Quoting nubcake
that was the point i was making. after a certain point you can't harass the server with bogus orders without making the broker cranky. you just can't do it.
Yes, I know.
Well, it is and remains the problem of the thread starter.
Now he knows what to expect and how to implement it.

Quote
the possible solutions are inelegant so far, and the purpose of it all is unclear.
The only purpose I can think of is to take away the "burden" of inserting the market-close time for each instrument manually.
This "convenience" might lead to an angry broker, which will then fall back on the author of the EA (seller ?) , so now he is warned.
  • #20
  • Sep 19, 2012 1:53pm Sep 19, 2012 1:53pm
Hi,
Years ago I tried to do this with a market trading times tool and from memory ( as In cannot for the life of me find the tool ) I used a comparision between the Broker and Local time and if there was more than 5 minutes difference in the time offset it signalled that the markets had either closed or the platform was off line. The idea behind this was that the Broker time stops updating when the market closes and the Local time keeps ticking on. Hope this helps.
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