After how many trades means success in the longrun?

After how much trade -that brings profit - can we say we are winner in the game of trading? 100 ? 1000? or even more?


I know the market conditions are always changing and you can be a winner for long time if you are in a long-long trending market.

But despite your trades are in total random random conditions (ie. you get randomly charts from the past and you dont know what happened there in the past OR every day you have to trade different currencies, different stocks ..etc by random selection)

This sounds more like a probability query, correct?
Either way, unless you are a damn good trader, there's just no way to predict which trade is going to be in the green..bottom line, no one can predict ALL the movements of this market and given that, ranking any probability stats is going to be hard.

This is impossible to predict because you're not restricting any variables. You don't even set a bank roll target.

For instance, if we say "Once a trader has $1M in the bank, he can be considered successful."

In that case, it might take a good scalper 40,000 trades to achieve. It might take a position trader 1/10 of that. The two approach the market very differently.

If you change the main metric from a target of $1M to $500k....then everything changes.

If you completely redefine the term "success" in the context to mean "when a trader has developed enough discipline to always follow his system without bowing to emotion"....then the whole thing is completely unpredictable. Some people might have balls of steel right out of the gate and pretty much be considered "instantly" successful by this standard. Others may never achieve it regardless of taking 50,000 trades over the course of 30 years.

You need to narrow down your question to get meaningful answers.

I didn't care much about the amounts, I figured that if I had like four or five trades within a certain time frame (like 3 days) I would have mastered a basic technique.
Later I found there are so many ways to trade I guess that when nothing is new anymore (no sudden movement of the market surprises you anymore) you can consider yourself succesfull. I'm far from that now.

I've always focused on consistency. That's the mark of long-term success. You will have bad days/weeks, but as long as the number and the amount of your winning trades are larger than the losing ones, then you're in the game.

The aim is not to win all the time or to win big all the time, but to be an overall winner. Consistency relies heavily on risk and money management, individual winning size relies on techniques and analysis.

i would say a time-frame would be more appropriate to measure success. and of course ROI.

Trade for around 2 years, then take all your trades and make the usual trade analysis: profit/trade etc and see if you are satisfied

It depends on a traders talent. I have seen many trader who are trading for few years but still can't make consistent profit. So they may already make thousands of orders but can catch the successful strategy.

consistent trading is what that matters, can be in terms of percentage with good RR and Low dd.

The most important aspect is keeping a low dd with a good ROI per month.

A trader can execute 4000-5000 pips win per month but he may also be risking more since he has more positions open, so its very dependable on the leverage as well and % growth.

Risking too much % and DD in a trade is very bad idea.

I ever executed 2000 trades in 2 months with 6000 pips accumulation , but it does not mean any success.

Whereas, a trader that executes sniper trading with 1-2 trades per week with 1000pips 2 months, may actually prove to be better as hes taking lesser time and have his dd and rr checked compared to other trading methods.

Success can be deem if a trader can turns his account size from a good account into at at least 1000%, but i am not talking about 0.01 lot of course. And hes able to make each $50 the ability to turn into $100/$150 or more. There he would be diversifying his risks and increasing his probability with a healthy system compared to holding in red and keep on increasing lot size as account grow, as it's a matter of time it may blows in leverage.