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  • #41
  • Aug 13, 2012 8:58pm Aug 13, 2012 8:58pm
Quoting mctrade
Hi Traders,

back from weekend to this thread again.

Very interesting posts and comments here I see.

So let`s summarice some things or facts together now:


1. No Standard Setup

There`s no standard setup of MA`s which all or most investors use for long term trading in FX markets.
Every individual trader has his own personal kinds and settings of MA`s in the charts, based on different individual factors and trading methods.

2. Major Moving Averages

There are 3 major MA`s that will be often but not always used by successful traders...
yes all indicators just a tool
if indeed you want to use one or two such tools
can be useful if you understand how to use it properly

best regards
w

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  • #42
  • Aug 14, 2012 2:19pm Aug 14, 2012 2:19pm
Quoting wendykurnia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3EzX...eature=related


but i personally don't use any single indicator
what i use just candlestick

cheer
Hi wendykurnia,

thanks for your posts and videos about using moving averages.

Very interesting, never seen this before.

Maybe someday I also don`t need them anymore,

But for now it seems better to have them in the charts.

Best Regards and good trades.
It ain`t no big thing, but it`s growing.
  • #43
  • Edited Aug 15, 2012 5:20am Aug 14, 2012 3:47pm | Edited Aug 15, 2012 5:20am
Quoting Monroe

I also know some professional funds use proprietary crossovers, usually of the weighted variety.

Hi Monroe,

thanks for your post.

Can you give more details about this ?

Crossovers as Entry Points?
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  • #44
  • Aug 15, 2012 4:41pm Aug 15, 2012 4:41pm
. What happenned in the past means absolute Ziltch (for all the good jewish boys), look at what is happening now and trade with it.
Simple.....or what??[/quote]

LOL, i haven't heard that term for over 20 years, when it was old hat even then, with the good old jewish boys as you call them, who at least had some originality and intelligence.

Simple or what??, I think you've described yourself perfectly.
  • #45
  • Aug 15, 2012 4:47pm Aug 15, 2012 4:47pm
[quote=mctrade;5925249]Hi Traders,

back from weekend to this thread again.

Very interesting posts and comments here I see.

So let`s summarice some things or facts together now:

Very good summary,succint and encompassing the major points.
Will be watching with interest.
When i get time i'll post the ma's i use in non fx mkts, just to kick things off.Of course as we have already established, they are lagging, but can provide uesful info, but just another analytical tool on their own, not a reason to take a trade, unless you go down that Turtle route.
  • #46
  • Aug 15, 2012 4:51pm Aug 15, 2012 4:51pm
Quoting jazzman
. What happenned in the past means absolute Ziltch (for all the good jewish boys), look at what is happening now and trade with it.
Simple.....or what??
LOL, i haven't heard that term for over 20 years, when it was old hat even then, with the good old jewish boys as you call them, who at least had some originality and intelligence.

Simple or what??, I think you've described yourself perfectly.[/quote]


Hi jazzman,

LOL, I don`t know what johnvr and you`re talking about but it seems to be really funny.

Thanks.
It ain`t no big thing, but it`s growing.
  • #47
  • Aug 15, 2012 5:35pm Aug 15, 2012 5:35pm
Quoting mctrade
Hi Traders,

I have a simple question:

What kind of Moving Averages do professional investors use for long term trading the Forex markets?

Are there other important MA`s which professional investors use?
Raghee Homer, professional trader and author prefers a 34 EMA wave. You can look her up on Google.

However, I think it depends on the time frame you're trading. Here are 2 simple charts; the first is H1 with an orange 34MA, yellow 50MA and an 8MA with NLMA. You should note the 1.0468 level rising above the 8 MA

On the second chart you might note the 15M time frame and the 8MA is nearly the same as the 34MA

http://ragheehorner.com/
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  • #48
  • Aug 15, 2012 6:08pm Aug 15, 2012 6:08pm
btw....... Aussie being respectful for now. Can't say if that will last
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  • #49
  • Aug 15, 2012 6:53pm Aug 15, 2012 6:53pm
Short Cable because it's below the clusterfuck of 125, 50 and 34 Ma's

Could be premature. (and LATE for this time of day/night)
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  • #50
  • Aug 15, 2012 7:09pm Aug 15, 2012 7:09pm
Quoting Slim Buffett
Short Cable because it's below the clusterfuck of 125, 50 and 34 Ma's
On the 15M, it looks like I made a seriously bad decision and may have.

On the hourly it SEEMS like it might be breaking trendline support and the 34 MA is dancing to the tune.
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  • #51
  • Aug 16, 2012 5:10am Aug 16, 2012 5:10am
Quoting Slim Buffett
On the 15M, it looks like I made a seriously bad decision and may have.
On the hourly it SEEMS like it might be breaking trendline support and the 34 MA is dancing to the tune.
No, you didn't make a bad decision.

You are expressing a classic human psychological trait called: "confirmation bias". You are rationalizing a so-called bad decision. Any explanation/rationalization and reasons after the fact will always be right, for the fact that the reasons will always be based after what happened. In return, there will be no error in your reasoning of trying to explain what just happened. And this is a psychological trap that you (and anyone) will be oblivious about, unless you are familiar/aware of this human psychological trait. And how devastating and very detrimental it is to trading.

There are a lot of psychological hurdles to overcome and be aware off before real professional trading can really begin.
The real truth is that a lot of people are oblivious to these psychological/subjective bias.

But hey, what do I know... I'm just another schmuck on a forum

  • #52
  • Aug 17, 2012 12:51pm Aug 17, 2012 12:51pm
Quoting Slim Buffett
Raghee Homer, professional trader and author prefers a 34 EMA wave. You can look her up on Google.

However, I think it depends on the time frame you're trading. Here are 2 simple charts; the first is H1 with an orange 34MA, yellow 50MA and an 8MA with NLMA. You should note the 1.0468 level rising above the 8 MA

On the second chart you might note the 15M time frame and the 8MA is nearly the same as the 34MA

http://ragheehorner.com/
Hi Slim Buffett,

thanks for your work posting the charts, also very interesting.
I heard about Raghee Horner in a webinar some times ago.I heard that she was successful but never known anything about her trading methods.

As I see she uses the shorter timeframes (1 hour , 15 minutes) with this 34 EMA wave method.
Personally I´m interested in longer term trading and looking for entrys on the 4 hour timeframes.

Will have a look to her website now and maybe finding some informations.
It ain`t no big thing, but it`s growing.
  • #53
  • Edited 4:48pm Aug 17, 2012 2:38pm | Edited 4:48pm
Quoting CrucialPoint
I hope this will help
Curve-fitting moving averages
Hi Crucial Point,

no offense here and nothing against you.

I think you`re a very experienced, successful trader.

I read your thread with interest, tried to understand your knowledge about using moving averages, markets psychology, subjective bias and your special points of viewing to the markets etc.

I noticed now, that you`ve banned me from your thread.

Can you please tell me why you did this?
What was the reason?
It ain`t no big thing, but it`s growing.
  • #54
  • Aug 17, 2012 8:12pm Aug 17, 2012 8:12pm
Quoting mctrade
I noticed now, that you`ve banned me from your thread.

Can you please tell me why you did this?
What was the reason?
You are not banned
My thread journal is currently set to 11+ vouch (no-one has 11+ vouch)... It is a setting here in FF that no-one is allowed to post except the thread starter. Basically my thread journal is currently closed for posting.

If you notice that the first 50 post, the thread was nice and clean, no-one was allowed to post. I then opened it for anyone to post. At the moment, I closed it again by putting a 11+ vouch restriction.
  • #55
  • Aug 17, 2012 9:47pm Aug 17, 2012 9:47pm
Quoting CrucialPoint


But hey, what do I know... I'm just another schmuck on a forum

EXACTLY...
you might notice that at that time it went down to the weekly pivot at 1.5638

So what exactly are you laughing about
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  • #56
  • Aug 17, 2012 9:51pm Aug 17, 2012 9:51pm
Quoting CrucialPoint
You are not banned
My thread journal is currently set to 11+ vouch (no-one has 11+ vouch)... It is a setting here in FF that no-one is allowed to post except the thread starter. Basically my thread journal is currently closed for posting.

If you notice that the first 50 post, the thread was nice and clean, no-one was allowed to post. I then opened it for anyone to post. At the moment, I closed it again by putting a 11+ vouch restriction.
It just seems that CP is another one of those who tries to use the intimidation voucher factor to his advantage.

Might just work. Good luck
When the Joker is in the deck.. fear not and play it well
  • #57
  • Aug 17, 2012 10:00pm Aug 17, 2012 10:00pm
Quoting CrucialPoint
No, you didn't make a bad decision.

[center][color=DarkRed]You are expressing a classic human psychological trait called: "confirmation bias". You are rationalizing a so-called bad decision. Any explanation/rationalization and reasons after the fact will always be right, for the fact that the reasons will always be based after what happened. In return, there will be no error in your reasoning of trying to explain what just happened. And this is a psychological trap that you (and anyone) will be oblivious about, unless you are familiar/aware of...
After reading that post numerous times it has now dawned upon me that you're simply an "educated idiot".


"The real truth is"
When the Joker is in the deck.. fear not and play it well
  • #58
  • Aug 17, 2012 10:27pm Aug 17, 2012 10:27pm
Quoting Slim Buffett
EXACTLY...
you might notice that at that time it went down to the weekly pivot at 1.5638

So what exactly are you laughing about
I think that's what he's laughing about.

CP's got some interesting posts Slim, most of them extracted, you should check them out.
H.D
  • #59
  • Aug 17, 2012 10:52pm Aug 17, 2012 10:52pm
Quoting Slim Buffett
After reading that post numerous times it has now dawned upon me that you're simply an "educated idiot".
"The real truth is"
You seem so sensitive, take things too personal (or frustrated of something) and that I may have touched a nerve.

You have 2 options:
1. Save post #51 and maybe someday in the future you might understand it.
2. Don't pay attention to me and simply just ignore me.

I suggest number 2 (don't pay attention to me) for your sake, cos nobody like cry-babies on forums.
Please don't even bother to reply this post to let a last cry-outburst, you'll be just interrupting this thread and will prove that you are a frustrated cry-baby.
  • #60
  • Aug 17, 2012 11:33pm Aug 17, 2012 11:33pm
Quoting CrucialPoint
You seem so sensitive, take things too personal (or frustrated of something) and that I may have touched a nerve.

You have 2 options:

Please don't even bother to reply this post to let a last cry-outburst, you'll be just interrupting this thread and will prove that you are a frustrated cry-baby.
First; my options are not for YOU to decide

Second; it almost seems like you're afraid that I will reply. The intimidation game works some of the time with some of the people.

Get a grip. CP And here's a little something about crying.... dedicated to you


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