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  • #4,901
  • Aug 11, 2012 3:07pm Aug 11, 2012 3:07pm
Quoting JeremyWS
Tell me with the power of ultimate astrology trading, will the perseid meteor shower affect the markets in any way, I am about to go and watch them and want some advice on what I should buy/sell on sunday eve???
As i know unless one of them doesn't fall on Tokyo, London or NY they have no known effect... So better to enjoy watching them in a moonless night
  • #4,902
  • Aug 11, 2012 3:30pm Aug 11, 2012 3:30pm
Quoting Almondeyed
As i know unless one of them doesn't fall on Tokyo, London or NY they have no known effect... So better to enjoy watching them in a moonless night
Or Frankie.

Aka Frankfurt.
  • #4,903
  • Aug 11, 2012 6:00pm Aug 11, 2012 6:00pm
Quoting Almondeyed
As i know unless one of them doesn't fall on Tokyo, London or NY they have no known effect... So better to enjoy watching them in a moonless night
Seeing as its all bull$hit anyway it doesn't matter, but anyway they are falling all day for the past/next days. only can see at night though
  • #4,904
  • Aug 12, 2012 5:25am Aug 12, 2012 5:25am
Quoting airquest
The reason is simple, I chose these numbers because it fits to price movement. The up move is 400 pips and the time is about 360 bars. So I draw a 400x360 bars. I know this makes a rectangle and not a square. That was my question, do I have to make this range a perfect square or not ? According to Gann's rules do I have to draw a perfect square or a rectangle is ok ? That was my question, and if I read well, I think your answer is yes, I have to draw a perfect square. But then, I don't understand why JR97 chose 976 pips to 360 bars in his article....
look at divisors, for example 16, or look for bars that are not included like the weekends... i'm sure the numbers will correlate to eachother, and yes, obviously the 45 degree line then becomes something else than 45 degrees
  • #4,905
  • Aug 12, 2012 7:44am Aug 12, 2012 7:44am
Quoting JeremyWS
Tell me with the power of ultimate astrology trading, ... want some advice on what I should buy/sell on sunday eve???
Well Jeremy, nice to have you onboard! This thread is about planetary cycles, so i'm neither much informed about astrology or meteorites.

My advice for you however is to go short eurusd for the whole of next week.

Have fun!
  • #4,906
  • Edited 9:29am Aug 12, 2012 8:55am | Edited 9:29am
Now we know what a geometrical square is, we can immediately toss it aside.
A 45 degree angle has nothing to do with Gann's method.

Gann was "squaring" the circle.
The circle being the zodiac circle. The square meant that the price value was equal to the zodiac value.

In other words, he was converting planetary longitude to price values.
His tools for this were the sq9, circle of whatever and the sq144, 52 etc.
All the same tools for different commodities.

In the following chart you see a geocentric trine between jupiter and saturn and the triangle pointing at jupiter and price at 203. 203 converts to 1.2030 on the eurusd. Very close to the low of 1.2040.

Then price went up, or clockwise on the chart, to 1.2440 which was 120 degrees from the low.

Another hit on time and price. Or as Gann would say, time and price squared.

Gann was not a miracle worker. He did not pick the ultimate tops and bottoms. Study his trades to see what he did. He took pieces of the pie, he did not eat the whole cake.
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  • #4,907
  • Aug 12, 2012 9:01am Aug 12, 2012 9:01am
Quoting Sti
one could go back to the ancient egypts and try to find a solution of squaring the circle, that should give you an interesting awareness.
That's what I said too, but somehow it didn't work.
  • #4,908
  • Aug 12, 2012 9:28am Aug 12, 2012 9:28am
Quoting Sti
That's what I said too, but somehow it didn't work.
Squaring the circle is also a metaphor.
(and knowing Gann he used it as such as well)
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  • #4,909
  • Aug 12, 2012 9:35am Aug 12, 2012 9:35am
This week by far the most significant aspect is the mars-saturn conjunction and the venus-uranus-pluto t-square.
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  • #4,910
  • Aug 12, 2012 9:40am Aug 12, 2012 9:40am
From Raphael: http://books.google.com/books/about/...d=i1MuPal43SQC
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  • #4,911
  • Aug 12, 2012 10:18am Aug 12, 2012 10:18am
Here is another study i saw in one book of Aerik Beann. It requires to calculate heliocentric (sun centered) declinations of solar bodies and sum them with following weights;

Mercury*6
Venus*5
Earth*4
Mars*3
Jupiter*2
Saturn*1

this composite declination is a nice prediction tool for long term. Tops and bottoms of declination line is often turning points of the markets. Here is the 2012 graph of composite declination line;

http://imageplay.net/img/tya22279690/EURUSD2.jpg

Sometimes on the middle of the declination line, markets change trend and it is called inversion... Every market has its unique characteristics so it is important to analyze every market separately.. To solve characteristic of EUR/USD market, i also looked back 2011 graph which is shown below;

http://imageplay.net/img/tya22279706/EURUSD3.jpg

As seen from both graphs market make an inversion after one Top-Bottom or Bottom-Top and it pass one bottom-top without inversion. Another point here if you draw a new line from the middle points of the declination tops and bottoms then you have long term cycle of that market.

When we combine both graphs above, we have this graph:

http://imageplay.net/img/tya22279708/EURUSD4.jpg

Market characteristic of EUR/USD is obvious so far as stated on the last graph. After bottom & top or top/bottom and inversion comes.. Of course market characteristic can also change by the time..

Recently, on July 19 our declination curve made a bottom, followed by a EUR/USD market bottom on July 24. August 9 was the middle of the our declination curve's last bottom and next top. So, either we had an inversion here and we will go down until the end of this month or we will have bullish bias during the rest of the month. Our observation about market characteristic so far in 2011 and 2012 suggests no inversion. Will see and learn more about market...

Long term cycle started to turn upside. Of course we can see one more low below 1.20, but longer cycles alarms for trend change...
  • #4,912
  • Aug 12, 2012 10:20am Aug 12, 2012 10:20am
Quoting Ilovepippin
From Raphael: http://books.google.com/books/about/...d=i1MuPal43SQC
I think our country looks for a reason to attack Syria for some time...
  • #4,913
  • Aug 12, 2012 11:05am Aug 12, 2012 11:05am
I like the declination things, have you tried a latitude analysis? and more specifically moon and jupiter?
  • #4,914
  • Aug 12, 2012 11:31am Aug 12, 2012 11:31am
Quoting Sti
I like the declination things, have you tried a latitude analysis? and more specifically moon and jupiter?
I studied moon a lot and when i have time, continue to study on it... Both extreme readings and 0 degree passes obviously cause trend changes. But couldn't find and know a practical way to support trading decisions by this Because too often it happens... I read in one of Mikula's book that Gann used Moon for intraday trading... Already downloaded several books about Planetary Trading and Astrology.. Still studying

For Jupiter didn't study specially on it... Because its movement is rather slow, i have doubts about its usefulness for trade... It can be useful to determine long term cycles...
  • #4,915
  • Aug 12, 2012 11:38am Aug 12, 2012 11:38am
well, i think you will like jupiter's latitude in the sense that it helps you understand the "inverses", in the end it's all about gravity (at least for me) and the direction of gravity is the difference between "direct" and "inverse"
  • #4,916
  • Aug 12, 2012 11:54am Aug 12, 2012 11:54am
Quoting Sti
well, i think you will like jupiter's latitude in the sense that it helps you understand the "inverses", in the end it's all about gravity (at least for me) and the direction of gravity is the difference between "direct" and "inverse"
Practice and experiment are always better guide then bias and imagination.... So need to plot and see i will try, thanks Sti....
  • #4,917
  • Aug 12, 2012 1:03pm Aug 12, 2012 1:03pm
Let me do it for you

Jupiter latitude versus EurUsd
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  • #4,918
  • Aug 12, 2012 1:50pm Aug 12, 2012 1:50pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
Now we know what a geometrical square is, we can immediately toss it aside.
A 45 degree angle has nothing to do with Gann's method.

Gann was "squaring" the circle.
The circle being the zodiac circle. The square meant that the price value was equal to the zodiac value.

In other words, he was converting planetary longitude to price values.
His tools for this were the sq9, circle of whatever and the sq144, 52 etc.
All the same tools for different commodities.

In the following chart you see a geocentric trine between jupiter...

Very nice explanation. Thanks a lot.
  • #4,919
  • Aug 12, 2012 4:28pm Aug 12, 2012 4:28pm
Quoting Sti
Let me do it for you

Jupiter latitude versus EurUsd
According to that chart, is it going down until cross up?
  • #4,920
  • Aug 12, 2012 5:38pm Aug 12, 2012 5:38pm
Quoting Mike Haran
On the 3 or 4th of August the EURUSD will turn and the minimum expectation is a 200 pip move, I have checked this relationship and it seems to be 100%.. So if the EURUSD is moving up then I expect it to fall on the dates given, if it is moving down then I expect it to react up. Now this date is the Friday and Saturday. So it could be that NFP is key trigger.

Regards

Mike Haran

Excuse me but may I ask you about based on what exactly you gave your expectation, I mean planet aspects, some statistical cycle program results, lunar phases?
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