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  • #861
  • Aug 7, 2012 12:45pm Aug 7, 2012 12:45pm
Quoting No-Luck
Don't expect too much from EDGE. Only Gold and Silver are much better but the fx spreads haven't improved at all. They are even worse, especially at non-majors. Here is a comparison from today:
Since spreads are variable, taking a single snapshot isn't an accurate representation. For instance, your screen shot might capture EUR/USD at 0.5 pips but that's not going to show that the average spread over 80k+ ticks was 0.39 pips on my last reading (from a month ago.)

From my analysis before, some are a bit worse, and some are a bit better. Overall, exotics were slightly worse on average and metals were way better. Majors stayed about the same.

I'm letting a few scripts run over the next few days to collect data to see what's changed since they brought the new LP on board. I'm also probing anywhere I can to find more info on recent changes and planned improvements.

Yes, I have high hopes for Edge because Pepper will eventually replace Razor with it sometime after launch (or so I've heard.) If they let existing clients keep Razor, then I wouldn't be as interested/vocal about Edge since I could as much time as I wanted transitioning strategies that work better on one or the other.

(side thought, if they do plan on letting existing razor account holders keep their old accounts, might want to make sure to grab one now before edge is launched: https://pepperstone.com/trading-acco...unts-razor.php )

Again, as I find out more, I'll ping this thread.
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  • #862
  • Aug 7, 2012 6:39pm Aug 7, 2012 6:39pm
Quoting Jack_Larkin
I was holding off responding to this just yet since recently I noticed some changes with Edge liquidity and spreads and wanted to dig a bit deeper.

When I wrote about Edge before, I mentioned they planned on making more improvements before and after the official launch.. and to be honest I thought was being fed that just to keep me happy as I was voicing some of my concerns to them.... but from what I can tell, they have some new sources of liquidity added to Edge since the numbers I'm seeing now a little better over my last analysis (which was...
You were using The DOM on metatrader 5 to look at the liquidity am i right?
  • #863
  • Aug 7, 2012 7:04pm Aug 7, 2012 7:04pm
Quoting Supertrader9
You were using The DOM on metatrader 5 to look at the liquidity am i right?
Neah, it's a plugin for MT4 that extends MT4's features. It acts as an EA that paints the one-click trading buttons and DOM right on the chart space.

I haven't heard anything new about MT5 yet.
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  • #864
  • Aug 8, 2012 6:26pm Aug 8, 2012 6:26pm
How much they will charge in commission for EDGE accounts ? Any Idea ?
  • #865
  • Aug 8, 2012 8:24pm Aug 8, 2012 8:24pm
Quoting alisonr
How much they will charge in commission for EDGE accounts ? Any Idea ?
Right now it's the same price structure as Razor. When I asked about this a while ago they told me it would likely stay the same.
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  • #866
  • Aug 8, 2012 8:51pm Aug 8, 2012 8:51pm
Quoting Jack_Larkin
Right now it's the same price structure as Razor. When I asked about this a while ago they told me it would likely stay the same.
You deserve a commish cut for services rendered
  • #867
  • Aug 8, 2012 9:08pm Aug 8, 2012 9:08pm
Quoting Alpha-Bet
You deserve a commish cut for services rendered
I wish! LOL That would be sweet. But then I'd be a commercial member and I couldn't help people in this thread, my thread on trading psychology, or various other places I've stuck my head around these parts.

I'd rather stick with the community.
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  • #868
  • Aug 8, 2012 9:14pm Aug 8, 2012 9:14pm
Quoting Jack_Larkin
I wish! LOL That would be sweet. But then I'd be a commercial member and I couldn't help people in this thread, my thread on trading psychology, or various other places I've stuck my head around these parts.

I'd rather stick with the community.
And you call yourself a capitalist....
  • #869
  • Aug 12, 2012 9:16pm Aug 12, 2012 9:16pm
Hi all, I have a few data related questions:

  1. Are the live and demo data feeds the same (same source)?
  2. Is the live data the same for each of the different account types?
  3. Is there a difference between the two demo servers data?
  4. Which account does the downloadable Pepperstone tick data come from?


Thanks in advance

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst
  • #870
  • Aug 13, 2012 4:41am Aug 13, 2012 4:41am
Quoting StudentX
Hi all, I have a few data related questions:

  1. Are the live and demo data feeds the same (same source)?
  2. Is the live data the same for each of the different account types?
  3. Is there a difference between the two demo servers data?
  4. Which account does the downloadable Pepperstone tick data come from?


Thanks in advance

https://pepperstone.com/clients/contact-us.php
  • #871
  • Aug 13, 2012 9:49am Aug 13, 2012 9:49am
Quoting StudentX
Hi all, I have a few data related questions:

  1. Are the live and demo data feeds the same (same source)?
  2. Is the live data the same for each of the different account types?
  3. Is there a difference between the two demo servers data?
  4. Which account does the downloadable Pepperstone tick data come from?


Thanks in advance

1. Yes

2. Standard accounts have a marked up spread and no commissions (ie, the quotes will be a bit wider between the bid and ask, but when you execute there is no additional charge.) While Razor has a thinner spread but charges a commission. This difference might make candle highs/lows slightly different in exact quote numbers but the charts will otherwise look the same.

3. One demo server is for Standard, the other for Razor.. so again, the difference will be the same as I mentioned in the previous point.

4. I'm unaware of any direct downloadable tick data from Pepper's own source, but you can get tick data from Integral's truefx site that is nearly the same as Razor (for backtesting it will do the trick.) If Pepper started offering tick data directly and I missed it, please post a link here.


Hope that helps.

Oh, and don't be afraid to do as Alpha-Bet suggested: contact Pepper directly... they are friendly and responsive.
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  • #872
  • Aug 13, 2012 9:54am Aug 13, 2012 9:54am
Jack,

the page is here https://pepperstone.com/mt4-forex-tr...story-data.php
However they are crosslinking to truefx site; that means integral data and offcouse razor account.

Best regards
Diogo

UPDATE: Seems last update here is September 2011 (well, just go to truefx.com)
  • #873
  • Aug 13, 2012 10:01am Aug 13, 2012 10:01am
Quoting diogo
Jack,

the page is here https://pepperstone.com/mt4-forex-tr...story-data.php
However they are crosslinking to truefx site; that means integral data and offcouse razor account.

Best regards
Diogo

UPDATE: Seems last update here is September 2011 (well, just go to truefx.com)
Funny, I never noticed that link on the site, and I don't see it from the menu system. But thanks for pointing it out.

It appears to be Integral's TrueFX tick data and linked direct, as diogo mentioned, so as I mentioned earlier that's a great source for tick data to backtest with... And yes, this means Razor for sure.
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  • #874
  • Aug 13, 2012 11:00am Aug 13, 2012 11:00am
Jack, “you the man”’. As Alpha-Bet mentioned, you deserve a commish, or at minimum a job offer from Pepperstone, lol.

Thank you for all your help here. It is really appreciated.

Have great one mate!
Fuck Forex Factory.Wake up people.
  • #875
  • Edited Aug 14, 2012 7:03am Aug 13, 2012 2:28pm | Edited Aug 14, 2012 7:03am
Quoting diogo
Jack,

the page is here https://pepperstone.com/mt4-forex-tr...story-data.php
However they are crosslinking to truefx site; that means integral data and offcouse razor account.

Best regards
Diogo

UPDATE: Seems last update here is September 2011 (well, just go to truefx.com)
Lol, how did you find this?

Historical Tick Data is not even a link through: https://pepperstone.com/mt4-forex-tr...t-glossary.php... But it's there till 2011...?


Ah, the joys of managing a website, lol…

Looks like "Peppy" may need to revamp its sitemap a bit for Google? I also have some links that are no longer available thru their menu but still exist. They might be in need of a very good website designer...

That said, the rest so far is excellent.

Great trading day today! (Hope you all have experienced the same.)
Fuck Forex Factory.Wake up people.
  • #876
  • Aug 13, 2012 4:42pm Aug 13, 2012 4:42pm
Quoting ramy3
Lol, how did you find this?

Historical Tick Data is not even a link through: https://pepperstone.com/mt4-forex-tr...t-glossary.php... But it's there till 2011...?


Ah, the joys of manipulating a website, lol…

Looks like "Peppy" may need to revamp its sitemap a bit for Google? I also have some links that are no longer available thru their menu but still exist. They might be in need of a very good website designer...

That...
It was here, several months ago. Don't know how "birt" got into it.
Indeed not found on site menus, blog posts - nowhere to be seen - weird

From http://eareview.net/tick-data/downlo...-data#integral
Quote
Pepperstone and Integral
Background
Pepperstone is an ECN broker founded in 2010, with a solid reputation and a growing client base. I never had an account with them, but I heard good things from many people that have one and I have yet to hear from an unsatisfied client. The tick data they are offering is gathered by their partner Integral, one of the leading liquidity providers. The quality is very high, with spreads lower than the Dukascopy in places.

The oldest data available is from 2009 and the available range of currency pairs is mostly...
  • #877
  • Aug 14, 2012 1:28am Aug 14, 2012 1:28am
Quoting Jack_Larkin
1. Yes

2. Standard accounts have a marked up spread and no commissions (ie, the quotes will be a bit wider between the bid and ask, but when you execute there is no additional charge.) While Razor has a thinner spread but charges a commission. This difference might make candle highs/lows slightly different in exact quote numbers but the charts will otherwise look the same.

3. One demo server is for Standard, the other for Razor.. so again, the difference will be the same as I mentioned in the previous point.

4. I'm unaware of any direct...

Thanks Jack, much appreciated. And yes, the tick data I was referring to is the same that diogo is talking about. I'll check out Integral's TrueFx...oh, and I have an inherent distrust of brokers and the information they feed the punters...this, sadly, comes from experience.

Cheers.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst
  • #878
  • Aug 14, 2012 3:26am Aug 14, 2012 3:26am
Quoting StudentX
oh, and I have an inherent distrust of brokers and the information they feed the punters...this, sadly, comes from experience.
Cheers.
Think we are all pretty much the same.
Fuck Forex Factory.Wake up people.
  • #879
  • Aug 14, 2012 2:29pm Aug 14, 2012 2:29pm
Quoting Jack_Larkin
Neah, it's a plugin for MT4 that extends MT4's features. It acts as an EA that paints the one-click trading buttons and DOM right on the chart space.

I haven't heard anything new about MT5 yet.
Jack may I ask what type of EA this is and where did you got it from?
I have an Pepperstone Razor account myself and been searching for more information regarding this MT4 DOM plugin but could not find any. At the moment I can't see any method in order to access DOM information on them. Its becoming a bit confusing.
  • #880
  • Aug 14, 2012 2:40pm Aug 14, 2012 2:40pm
I don't believe it has been released yet but will look something like this:

http://www.forexindustryinsider.com/...etdepthmt4.png

source: http://www.forexindustryinsider.com/...edge-accounts/

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