M&W-Trading

I don't have to guess anymore. The way you are panicking and defending yourself, the answer is clear.

Mark in the forum called Hilde, Sandra, Chee Siong, and everybody else who were struggling as "morons". Are you guys the same person? See who's panicking and pissing pants now.

The only one I see pissing his pants is YOU.

I have nothing to hide. MORON.

Hey Market Hater!

I know MJ! And you know what? His name is not Mark.
I'm from Hungary, I can trade, so I am also MJ???

Moron.

Would you confirm that you know are a moron?

You moron.

snitch disloyal individual. I read the NDA and their is nothing about sharing trades. It clearly mentions copyrighted material. if one call a trade i.e shorting eu @ whatever how in do you know what methodology he or she is using. or if one mentions im waiting for a stop hunt before shorting how can one tell its SM methodology. YOUR such a FOOL to try to shut us all up so for 5100 USD your going to try to tell people what to say or mention for the rest of their life's. Be real an become a MAN or WOMAN and not a kid running around in diapers crying. Wish all the Student one day file a lawsuit against MMMFOREX for stupidity. Also why you hiding behind FF, reveal yourself post your email so people can contact you directly. ANYONE hiding shows their malintentions. I have Zen on my skype also maybe can send him your FF posts.

If it's only calling trades long or short, then why are all of you so eager and panicking to protect "MJ"? Why all of a sudden people are coming out to declare MJ is not Mark Jolley? Someone else would have thought: who the hell is Mark Jolley? You are right and absolutely correct that anyone can call trades and long or short EU. But to spend the last two pages of this thread trying to help MJ and saying that he did nothing copyrighted, surely you guys are now trying to protect him? From what? If he is still teaching in skype and he is not Mark Jolley, then why all the fuss? The more I sit back and watch, the more mistakes you guys fell into and tripping over own foot and providing more damning evidence to "Steve and his office". Talk some more.

This thread has now turned a new chapter: Let's protect MJ and MJ is not Mark Jolley and MJ did not teach against Steve's NDA.

Why are you guys so defensive about identifying MJ as Mark Jolley? No one can stop him from teaching.

Stand United and spread the word to all whom you know. What kind of actions they take and what kind of people we deal with. Maybe he is a partner or talking on his behalf but make sure they know how they OPERATE on THREATS. Perosnally I've chatted with Zen before and seems to be down to earth person. But this MMFOREX might be the Dr. Hyde SM is hiding. BAD NAME BAD BUSINESS and that's a FACT. M stanf for about 500 names and J for about the same. I wont hide my email is [email protected]

The mistakes are yours I can vouch that he never shared copyrighted material. Believe one can share they trades all they want. no one has the right to shut one up for 5100 USD. The Fuss started with the one Fool that started Threating individuals. Steve and his Office better look into legal aspects since they have so much money. It wont stop US from posting what has been posted here. THREATS on Behalf of a Company to individuals.

All I have seen the MMMethod videos and tried to trade with them. They are very vague and without live support and example you will fail. This site below is the best one and it is under $500.00. They do a video every night on the EU and GU. Tue and Thur they have a live trade room in London and NY. They have internal chat and countless videos of trades in action. These guys are the real deal.

http://www.daytradingforexlive.com/

Hi People,

I've been following Steve from day one, his very first webinar. The following are my own personal beliefs about forex trading, 100% from my own experience. My typical trades are 2 - 3 lots, and I have traded as high as 5-10 lots before.

In my opinion Forex trading IS NOT POSSIBLE!!! It was probably possible prior to the mid 1990's however with the introduction of computers into the forex market, it is now a game of computer chess...


I believe Steve Marau is truthful in what he has taught, however the reason he now teaches is probably because the market can't be beaten. When he traded it was as simple as he says and controlled by a few powers. Accumulation / stop hunt / and real move. But now computers do a 10 times better job.

Every single time anyone places a forex trade on any currency, I am 100% sure from my own experience that the computers controlling the market will instantaneously calculate the aggregate total net long or net short and will immediately move the market against that aggregate.

This means the bigger you trade, the more influence you have on the aggregate, and the higher your influence of having the computers push the price against you immediately.


I CHALLENGE ANYONE IN THIS ROOM, AND ANYONE THAT KNOWS ANYONE TO DO THE FOLLOWING.

PLACE A HIGH LOT TRADE (7 LOTS AND UP) ON ANY CURRENCY AT ANY TIME WHEN THE MARKET IS CALM/ NO NEWS AND WATCH WHAT HAPPENS. I GUARANTEE THAT WITHIN SEVERAL MINUTES, IF NOT IMMEDIATELY THE MARKET WILL PUSH AGAINST YOU, AND IF YOU CONTINUE TO HOLD THIS TRADE I GUARANTEE THAT THE MARKET WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE AGAINST YOU UNTIL YOU EVENTUALLY CLOSE THE TRADE, OR ARE MARGINED OUT. It does not matter how much equity is in your account, above 5 - 7 lots is all it takes. The computers running the forex market will control the market every second of the day, to push the aggregate open float against the majority of traders.


Even better, do the above with a high lot trade on any currency you choose at the end of a huge turning point on a currency. For example after a 3 week constant run up take a big short position after they spike it high. The computers WILL NOT ALLOW THE CURRENCY TO MOVE DOWN UNTIL YOUR POSITION IS CLOSED OUT. DON'T CLOSE IT OUT FOR 2 PLUS DAYS WHEN ITS TIME TO MOVE THAT CURRENCY DOWN AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. YOU WILL GET SOME AMAZING AND UNBELIEVABLE SPIKES UP EVEN HIGHER ON THE CURRENCY UNTIL THEY TAKE YOU OUT, AND THE SECOND YOUR TRADE IS OUT WATCH HOW FAST THE CURRENCY COMES SCREAMING BACK DOWN TO PUT THE CURRENCY BACK INTO WORLD ECONOMIC STABILITY ZONE!!!.

This also explains why demo trading doesn't represent real trading. Demo trading puts zero dollars into the market, therefore having zero response from the computerised market.

If you could go back and forwards in time, it would also mean that charts would look completely different from what they actually do, if you went back and did not or did place a trade. YOUR TRADE CHANGES the market at every second of the day!!!

Think about that.

And no it doesn't take 1 billion dollars to influence the market, your 7 lot trade will be plenty enough.

I would personally have to disagree with the fact that every position is manipulated. It may seem like that however The key IMO is understanding where the retail orders are going to be on a daily basis, and then only trading at these high probability points from 2-5AM and 8-11AM EST.

Previous S/R, Well used MA's, Previous Days H/L, 61.8% Fib, psychological barrier, ect. When I see multiple points such as those listed above coming together at one price point (1), during the typical manipulation times (2)...then and only then will I value the M/W or stop run of those levels (3). Simplifying it down has been the best thing for my trading.

Did anyone sign up for the market check down service? i think they are teaching the market maker method

Absolutely NOT.

Market Check Down specifically state they are NOT teaching anything https://www.marketcheckdown.com/foru...btopicseen#new- they also said that, unlike the DMR, they will not be churning out the same repetitive stuff, every week. They have continuously promoted SM~ and his MMM4X, although which is the proper website is anybody's guess. Is it
www.marketmakersforex.com, or
www.marketmakersforex.net, or
www.beatthemarketmaker.com??

[oh, they are cheaper, too]

i think they said that to cover their ass since they signed a contract with SM. I'm curious to see what they cover in their videos since they say they teach nothing.

It's Zen, steve's partner. Now that he is proficcient in the method he wants to capitalize probably on his knowledge. If you click the about us you'll see an address that begins Zen@.... how many Zen's do you know in the Florida area I don't know many in fact he's the first Zen I've heard of.

That's as far as I looked so if others venture down the road then share your learnings good and bad. But if the topic is not about M's & W's please start a new thread and fight I mean talk there.

There has never been any doubt that it is one and the same. The issue was that Zen wanted to offer a Market Check Down - SM~ didn't like the idea. So they have gone their separate ways.. Market Check Down for 20 sessions per 28 days (note it is a lunar month, not a calendar one..) costing you $79.95, or the hyped-up DMR costing a lot more.

The proof will be in the results (or not) in a two or three months. More than that, and it will be shown that the MCD is the same sort of cash-cow as the DMR.

Looks like someone is using this thread to sell a service with circular posts posing as separate people. Can you post that link yet another time? (sarcasm)

Hey Optimystic while don't you take your sarcasm and make stupid comments on another thread. You've contributed ZERO to this thread.

Nah too much fun watching marketers and calling their shit

PCGuy: be nice to people

IMHO, this post from SmartMoneyFX nailed the "whole matter" with this post. Great "check down" and a safe way to trade. Thanks for posting.