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  • #35,101
  • Jul 23, 2012 4:56pm Jul 23, 2012 4:56pm
Someone was struggling all day? or attack in places with no defenders? (or tired defenders)
Oh sorry,I'm tired
Good nite
  • #35,102
  • Edited 5:50pm Jul 23, 2012 5:11pm | Edited 5:50pm
Hi LexKim, you maybe korean?

Otherwise i have one exam left and I got 65% now, and 94% for seminar, but because I couldn't come to midterm I got 0 for midterm, so maybe I will have to retake it next year, because 25% of grade professor took away (midtrm). I think, maybe I will be forced to move to some rich country like norway,sweden and do ordinary job there as waiter or worker in supermarket, as it's better paid than here in slovenia I get 600 euros like workin in bank, and in norway 3000e is minimum wage . You will hear more about slovenia in near days, as country is broke, at top they stole everything they could, but they are not russia to say to world, we will not repay our debt. All best guys
  • #35,103
  • Jul 23, 2012 6:24pm Jul 23, 2012 6:24pm
Quoting indianguyinny24
Lex,

Welcome to forum , seems you are already pro...let em give some details what we do here...we are here more like family then networked people..the top of family is FTI and as top of family he gets loving and angry sometime..

and most of time now we rarely talk clearly...we just say here and there with some hints what is to be said..if you want an e.g. try seeing Gro ...

i saw your trading profile and i see you already made around 30% in less then week....

as in rule as FTI told Pros rarely network on internet but in real life...
oh i get an honest opinion about me.
Am i that bad, gets angry. But i know i do get cranky sometimes.
i better look into that, other wise i may develop bad habits.
ok, my friends, when i get angry, please tell me .
but please don't get angry yourself, when you telling me. Because i also not want you develop bad habits.

regards
  • #35,104
  • Jul 23, 2012 6:29pm Jul 23, 2012 6:29pm
Quoting fti
oh i get an honest opinion about me.
Am i that bad, gets angry. But i know i do get cranky sometimes.
i better look into that, other wise i may develop bad habits.
ok, my friends, when i get angry, please tell me .
but please don't get angry yourself, when you telling me. Because i also not want you develop bad habits.

regards
Hi Fti!
Do you really want to know??
I think that there is a sign for that... if you angry, just put this in - than we will not need to guess...
  • #35,105
  • Jul 23, 2012 6:36pm Jul 23, 2012 6:36pm
Quoting mijamoto
Hi LexKim, you maybe korean?

Otherwise i have one exam left and I got 65% now, and 94% for seminar, but because I couldn't come to midterm I got 0 for midterm, so maybe I will have to retake it next year, because 25% of grade professor took away (midtrm). I think, maybe I will be forced to move to some rich country like norway,sweden and do ordinary job there as waiter or worker in supermarket, as it's better paid than here in slovenia I get 600 euros like workin in bank, and in norway 3000e is minimum wage . You will hear more about slovenia...
ai ya mija,
he's from france, runs his own private stock trading portfolio.
have ops in france and far east.
well you could had asked for an opportunity from him.
he seems successful in his approach to markets, based on that HE'S MAKING PIPS.

Read his profile.
I cannot network with him because i cannot go anywhere nor do much in my state.
But that doesn't mean that you peeps need follow me be housebound.
Just be cautious and not get over excited about things.
Keep feets on the ground.

there are still good peeps out there.
Just not expect too much esp in things free.
But there are still good peeps out there , sometimes they are very generous.
Just no pay upfront for anything.

regards
  • #35,106
  • Jul 23, 2012 6:44pm Jul 23, 2012 6:44pm
Quoting Jaro
Hi Fti!
Do you really want to know??
I think that there is a sign for that... if you angry, just put this in - : rofl:: rofl: than we will not need to guess...
Jaro
The thing is i didn't feel i got angry mostly.
I notice sometimes i get very cracky, because the body gets in the way.
and i get some frastrated. So i not speak so politely.
Imjscn, had ever highlighted to me before.

Angry, i remember 1 time when a toddler in china was runover by truck and no one helped.
this time when 1 mad man bought 6000 rounds ammo and killed 12 peeps watching a movie.
cannot remember any other times, but my memory is not so good any more.May be some i forgot.

mostly i feel i am happy and gay(not homosexual). gay as in carefree , easy going.
but waiting to expire has been an experience for me.
they keep telling me be prepared, and i am mostly, but it not comes.
I am indeed thankful to God, its not my time yet, but my loss of quality of life makes me sad sometimes.
Hey but nothing to worry about.
that which not kills me , only makes me stronger.

regards
  • #35,107
  • Jul 23, 2012 6:55pm Jul 23, 2012 6:55pm
Quoting fti
Jaro
The thing is i didn't feel i got angry mostly.
I notice sometimes i get very cracky, because the body gets in the way.
and i get some frastrated. So i not speak so politely.
Imjscn, had ever highlighted to me before.

Angry, i remember 1 time when a toddler in china was runover by truck and no one helped.
this time when 1 mad man bought 6000 rounds ammo and killed 12 peeps watching a movie.
cannot remember any other times, but my memory is not so good any more.May be some i forgot.

mostly i feel i am happy and gay(not...

Keep up to be happy and gay!

How is imjscn is doing? Is she moved home for good ?
  • #35,108
  • Jul 23, 2012 6:57pm Jul 23, 2012 6:57pm
Quoting fti
oh i get an honest opinion about me.
Am i that bad, gets angry. But i know i do get cranky sometimes.
i better look into that, other wise i may develop bad habits.
ok, my friends, when i get angry, please tell me .
but please don't get angry yourself, when you telling me. Because i also not want you develop bad habits.

regards
You must be kidding.
This evening when I was driving back from the Gym
I was thinking about some one trading with high leverage to get 30 % return. (Trivial with that leverage. Let see doing in without leverage)
The more I thought about it, the more I realized that I was getting
pissed off to a pending margin call.
Oh life...
If you get pissed, then do it.
You already proved to us that you are a real chief,
the king of the hill.
Just make sure do not go to deep into it.
Protect your health.
We want you to be around till the end of the world.
Lead on!

Edit: why? Oh well...I am up only 30 % this year...without using leverage. You figure...
Empty as water and soft as a facing wind mountain
  • #35,109
  • Jul 23, 2012 7:03pm Jul 23, 2012 7:03pm
Quoting Jaro
Keep up to be happy and gay!

How is imjscn is doing? Is she moved home for good ?
ya she has.
is much inland, and she complains often about slow connections.
she cannot even read forexfactory well anymore.
but she hoping things will improve.

We'll see, when she returns.

regards
  • #35,110
  • Jul 23, 2012 7:04pm Jul 23, 2012 7:04pm
Quoting luSan
You must be kidding.
This evening when I was driving back from the Gym
I was thinking about some one trading with high leverage to get 30 % return. (Trivial with that leverage. Let see doing in without leverage)
The more I thought about it, the more I realized that I was getting
pissed off to a pending margin call.
Oh life...
If you get pissed, then do it.
You already proved to us that you are a real chief,
the king of the hill.
Just make sure do not go to deep into it.
Protect your health.
We want you to be around till the...
ahh Lusan.
No chief, king of the hill aspirations for me.
Happy have some friends.

Most of my buddies, they running allover the world, happily busy with their stuff.
I cannot impose on them, because i will not be able pace them.
only be a drag.
here i get chance sit with friends who doing same stuff.
Mostly i feel happy that my experiece is well received by many. Happy to pass it on.



regards
  • #35,111
  • Jul 23, 2012 7:08pm Jul 23, 2012 7:08pm
Quoting fti
not directly.
so the answer is no.
thrust/impetus/momentum is a direct reflection of the markets urgency.
Basically is a direct factor of traders agression or lack of because of fear/greed or over exposure.

volitility is a function of liquidity.

Hi fti,

Your comment is appreciated. I think I understand thrust and it's relationship with time. However, I am still not clear about volatility/liquidity. Is it related to thrust? How do we gauge liquidity without volume?

Thanks.

Regards,
King
  • #35,112
  • Jul 23, 2012 7:09pm Jul 23, 2012 7:09pm
Quoting fti
Jaro
The thing is i didn't feel i got angry mostly.
I notice sometimes i get very cracky, because the body gets in the way.
and i get some frastrated. So i not speak so politely.
Imjscn, had ever highlighted to me before.

Angry, i remember 1 time when a toddler in china was runover by truck and no one helped.
this time when 1 mad man bought 6000 rounds ammo and killed 12 peeps watching a movie.
cannot remember any other times, but my memory is not so good any more.May be some i forgot.

mostly i feel i am happy and gay(not homosexual)....

it is cranky then :d

V
  • #35,113
  • Edited 8:06pm Jul 23, 2012 7:24pm | Edited 8:06pm
Quoting Kingsw
Hi fti,

Your comment is appreciated. I think I understand thrust and it's relationship with time. However, I am still not clear about volatility/liquidity. Is it related to thrust? How do we gauge liquidity without volume?

Thanks.

Regards,
King
volitility increase, if there is news or info thats market moving. Such times is normal,most mms hands off console for a time.

if volitility increases without info hitting he wire then somethings happening , only that is not transparent to the traders yet. only the elite.

if volitility increase and prices hoping around for extended times, then the markets is in a vacuum.

important for traders not to trade illiquid markets. Normally the spread are wide.
some markets spreads are normal but if the slippage to execute is bad , then is also illiquid.

Volitility is an important gauge, because it changes your strategic stance.
Also we need make additional allowance when exception volitility is detected. esp if you highly geared.


regards

By the way volume tell you nothing about liquidity.
a giagantic volume can be done in 1 instance.
moreover traders can be scratching trades, you see volume but nothings risked, just manipulated.
A buys from B, B buys from C , C buys from D, D buys from A . all same prices.
generates lots volume, but what does it do? trigger the ducks.
what do you think managed pull euro to 1.2150 to cover the gap?
trillion$ market?


ever hear of traders using pivot points with a band?
some even go as far as to profile the movement determine the pivot.
but the nemesis is in getting that pivotal accuracy.
i call this activity plotting pragnant charts.
the pivot is normally some where in the bulge.
but is as good as random walk.
but you can assign time parameters to it.
but then the parameter is critical
at best it under performs simple moving averages.
if you take one step further you can asign bands around the sma.
then you become contrarian traders.
  • #35,114
  • Jul 23, 2012 7:59pm Jul 23, 2012 7:59pm
Quoting fti
volitility increase, if there is news or info thats market moving. Such times is normal,most mms hands off console for a time.

if volitility increases without info hitting he wire then somethings happening , only that is not transparent to the traders yet. only the elite.

if volitility increase and prices hoping around for extended times, then the markets is in a vacuum.

important for traders not to trade illiquid markets. Normally the spread are wide.
some markets spreads are normal but if the slippage to execute is bad , then is...
Hi fti,
Thanks for the explanation. So in simplistic term volatility and liquidity is inversely related, and volatility plays an important part in trading strategy/mm?

When liquidity is low, would it had any effect on price action when price return to such levels?

Thanks.

Regards,
King
  • #35,115
  • Jul 23, 2012 8:22pm Jul 23, 2012 8:22pm
Wow u guys really active it's 3:15 am here in europe lol. I just want tell you, be caucios bout Slovenia, if they will talk about it now in news, situation is bad for local people, but in terms of EU it's like big village (2 million inhabitants) and with few bn €, everything can be solved lol, so they will just make buzz around it and are already starting to make But after transition to capitalism several people wanted to get rich so they were takin loans buyin shares, and in 2007 after market peaked, global recession started and party was over. Banks are taking losses now as guys are unable to pay and here we have some austeritiy meausuresm, unemployment rise,companies bye bye and stuff like tht. Pretty general things
  • #35,116
  • Edited 1:29am Jul 24, 2012 12:22am | Edited 1:29am
Quoting mijamoto
Wow u guys really active it's 3:15 am here in europe lol. I just want tell you, be caucios bout Slovenia, if they will talk about it now in news, situation is bad for local people, but in terms of EU it's like big village (2 million inhabitants) and with few bn €, everything can be solved lol, so they will just make buzz around it and are already starting to make But after transition to capitalism several people wanted to get rich so they were takin loans buyin shares, and in 2007 after market peaked, global recession started and party was over....
ai ya, very negative.

don't worry about them, they will get what they sowed.
WORRY ABOUT YOU.
Make thing good for YOURSELF.
Build that you no need be like them.
Be better.

Don't feed hate.It can destroy you.
You are young.
Just forgive forget and get on build life good.
there lots bad things in the world, no spend time over every bad thing.
wasting.
be good and appreciate all the good stuff God gave you instead.

no torture self with negativity.
pat chest, smile and move on.
even if you lost good things.
pat chest, thank God for it and move on.
nothing last forever here.

Dad taught me.
世界這人造來看地
the world is made for seeing.
to you only thing real to you is you.
when you are no more, your reality is no more.

regards
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  • #35,117
  • Jul 24, 2012 1:45am Jul 24, 2012 1:45am
FTI;
Appreciate whatever you given here.TY

Could you kindly explain "vacuum" and "time window" that I find you posted here in the thread but I cannot understand it.


Again appreciate all you done.
  • #35,118
  • Jul 24, 2012 1:52am Jul 24, 2012 1:52am
Quoting doddy
FTI;
Appreciate whatever you given here.TY

Could you kindly explain "vacuum" and "time window" that I find you posted here in the thread but I cannot understand it.


Again appreciate all you done.
vacuum= empty= nada= nothing there
time window= opportunity of time where you see possible opportunity do something.
whetrher you do or not depends on what you see happening.

can understand?
try align time window with symmetry. Things seem like mirror it self. sometime nothing shows,because we seeing mirage.

regards
  • #35,119
  • Jul 24, 2012 2:13am Jul 24, 2012 2:13am
Hi FTI;

Thank your reply but what vacuum to relate on chart.

Still cannot understand the time window.

Sori that I am very slow.

I had read all your post and compiled my version of your works here.If you agreed I will post it here.
  • #35,120
  • Jul 24, 2012 2:22am Jul 24, 2012 2:22am
Quoting doddy
Hi FTI;

Thank your reply but what vacuum to relate on chart.

Still cannot understand the time window.

Sori that I am very slow.

I had read all your post and compiled my version of your works here.If you agreed I will post it here.
vacuum relates to no liquidity.

think slowly, rest a while turn mind to other things think again when refreshed.

already thread is 2000+pages you want make it double?
reposting what i posted?
hows about reinvent the wheel? would be more productive.

regards
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