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  • #1
  • First Post: Feb 25, 2007 12:21pm Feb 25, 2007 12:21pm
hi thjere,

i dun post here often so i get straight to the point. recently i manage to get my hand on a system that has a 95% winning ratio claim. at least from what i can see from his back test. i would with held his name for the time being as i do not wish to disclose too much about this guy and his system but all i can say is that this guy is a genous when it come to trading fx. i knew him for quite some time and although we no the best of buddy, he has always willing to lend a hand when it come to trading the market. i had a bad experience in trading once many year ago which resulted in my losing thousand of dollar and giving up on trading altogether.

to make a long stories short, i persuaded him to share his nugget with me in exchange for a hefty sum of money and made me promise on a stack of bible that i would not breathe breathe a word to a single soul about this system.

now my friend isn't english oriented (he's frm germany) so you could imagine my frustration trying to understand the short explaination he type out on a microsoft word document. what made it worse is that there is no one that i can turn to for reference as i am the only person he ever share this system with and his system included 6 different indicator mixed together in a very unique combination.

these 6 indicator are as follow:

ASCTrend1sig_nosound
fibocalc_V31
ATR level
SHI_channel
fiboretracement3

i would like assistance from the more technical savy trader in this forum to provide explaination on the use and application of each of these indicator. when i have a clear cut idea of these indicator, i will back test it for a few week. if it is profitable, then i will share it with every one here.

thnaks

best regard
haniel roswell
  • #2
  • Feb 25, 2007 12:32pm Feb 25, 2007 12:32pm
Quoting hanielroswell
hi thjere,

i dun post here often so i get straight to the point. recently i manage to get my hand on a system that has a 95% winning ratio claim. at least from what i can see from his back test. i would with held his name for the time being as i do not wish to disclose too much about this guy and his system but all i can say is that this guy is a genous when it come to trading fx. i knew him for quite some time and although we no the best of buddy, he has always willing to lend a hand when it come to trading the market. i had a bad experience in trading once many year ago which resulted in my losing thousand of dollar and giving up on trading altogether.

to make a long stories short, i persuaded him to share his nugget with me in exchange for a hefty sum of money and made me promise on a stack of bible that i would not breathe breathe a word to a single soul about this system.

now my friend isn't english oriented (he's frm germany) so you could imagine my frustration trying to understand the short explaination he type out on a microsoft word document. what made it worse is that there is no one that i can turn to for reference as i am the only person he ever share this system with and his system included 6 different indicator mixed together in a very unique combination.

these 6 indicator are as follow:

ASCTrend1sig_nosound
fibocalc_V31
ATR level
SHI_channel
fiboretracement3

i would like assistance from the more technical savy trader in this forum to provide explaination on the use and application of each of these indicator. when i have a clear cut idea of these indicator, i will back test it for a few week. if it is profitable, then i will share it with every one here.

thnaks

best regard
haniel roswell
I am confused, why would you share a system you paid a lot of money for and swore never to disclose it? Perhaps I did not understand what you were getting at... thanks in advance for the clarification.
  • #3
  • Feb 25, 2007 12:48pm Feb 25, 2007 12:48pm
Thats what they all look like when they are on a chart.

I guess it will be a rising ATR over .12
However the SHI channel is dynamic and always re calcing. it works off lower/higher pivots.

ASCtrend has been set at 3,

You would need to trade it live but there are far to many lines with the 2 fib/pivots.

I like the Fiboretracement3, but it depends where it and the SHI channel was at the time.
I have attached a zipped larger chart

Mart
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  • #4
  • Feb 25, 2007 12:54pm Feb 25, 2007 12:54pm
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Mart
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  • #5
  • Feb 25, 2007 1:07pm Feb 25, 2007 1:07pm
Without any docs, it means we just trade with what we know about these indicators. Heads or tails?
  • #6
  • Feb 25, 2007 10:14pm Feb 25, 2007 10:14pm
Quoting smjones
I am confused, why would you share a system you paid a lot of money for and swore never to disclose it? Perhaps I did not understand what you were getting at... thanks in advance for the clarification.

yes, i did swore to secrecy. that why i said i never posted my opinion or any my trading method before. i recieve this trading system last week and i dun know what is a lot of money to you. but anything over 100 buck for a system,is expensive to me.

i know what i have in my hand is a nugget trading system, i won't say it's the holy grail. i mean've seen many great system here that is free of charge. but from what i can see from his result using this system, it's close enough. the reason why i would be willing to share this system is because i am confuse with the way this system is explain to me. in the system he outline to me, there is many spelling error and grammer mistake, and he tend to skip through a lot of important point. so i'm confuse. i need the assistance of every one here to provide me with some kind of information regarding the 6 indicator i've just pointed out.

he don't hang out at forum a lot so i doubt that he would see me posting this here. if any one can help, i don't mind sending it to them provided there could break it down for me step by step. but just in case, i won't post the system here, just incase he get a bit bore and decide to visit this forum.

best regard
haniel roswell
  • #7
  • Feb 25, 2007 10:23pm Feb 25, 2007 10:23pm
Quoting mart-hart
Thats what they all look like when they are on a chart.

I guess it will be a rising ATR over .12
However the SHI channel is dynamic and always re calcing. it works off lower/higher pivots.

ASCtrend has been set at 3,

You would need to trade it live but there are far to many lines with the 2 fib/pivots.

I like the Fiboretracement3, but it depends where it and the SHI channel was at the time.
I have attached a zipped larger chart

Mart
hi,

thnaks responding to my heed. actually the fiboretracement3 is an optional indicator. the main indicator use is fibocalc_V31, ASCTrend1_nosound, SHI_channel, fractal and ATR level (not ATR). the system base its entry and exit point on the fibocalc_V31 and use other indicator to support it's entry. it's has a strategy for stop lose which is in my opinion unique. fibocalc_V31 provide 3 profit potential as a well as stop loss. but he doesn't use stop loses. it's quite confusing to me, but may be at the hand of an expert trader like everyone, might be a piece of cake.

best regard
haniel roswell
  • #8
  • Feb 25, 2007 10:23pm Feb 25, 2007 10:23pm
Quoting hanielroswell
yes, i did swore to secrecy. that why i said i never posted my opinion or any my trading method before. i recieve this trading system last week and i dun know what is a lot of money to you. but anything over 100 buck for a system,is expensive to me.

i know what i have in my hand is a nugget trading system, i won't say it's the holy grail. i mean've seen many great system here that is free of charge. but from what i can see from his result using this system, it's close enough. the reason why i would be willing to share this system is because i am confuse with the way this system is explain to me. in the system he outline to me, there is many spelling error and grammer mistake, and he tend to skip through a lot of important point. so i'm confuse. i need the assistance of every one here to provide me with some kind of information regarding the 6 indicator i've just pointed out.

he don't hang out at forum a lot so i doubt that he would see me posting this here. if any one can help, i don't mind sending it to them provided there could break it down for me step by step. but just in case, i won't post the system here, just incase he get a bit bore and decide to visit this forum.

best regard
haniel roswell
I suggest you ask your friend (who you mentioned was willing to lend you a hand) to guide you step by step through his system. After all you paid him money for the system so it is only fair that he teaches you how his system works. Coming to this forum and asking traders here to work this system out for you is almost like re inventing the wheel.
  • #9
  • Feb 25, 2007 10:35pm Feb 25, 2007 10:35pm
I can sympathize with your need to understand the system you paid for, but you promised your friend you would not disclose it. Whether or not he would find out that you have is irrelevant. Maybe you should have waited to pay him until after you understood everything, but it's a little upsetting to see someone so quick to betray someone and break their word. Especially considering this is a friend.
  • #10
  • Feb 25, 2007 10:58pm Feb 25, 2007 10:58pm
Quoting hanielroswell
yes, i did swore to secrecy....
best regard
haniel roswell
A man is as good as his word and yours is sour.

Quoting hanielroswell
if any one can help, i don't mind sending it to them provided there could break it down for me step by step. but just in case, i won't post the system here, just incase he get a bit bore and decide to visit this forum.
Why should anyone here that might be willing to help you {I doubt there will be many takers}, believe you?
  • #11
  • Feb 26, 2007 4:35am Feb 26, 2007 4:35am
Quoting Antra
I suggest you ask your friend (who you mentioned was willing to lend you a hand) to guide you step by step through his system. After all you paid him money for the system so it is only fair that he teaches you how his system works. Coming to this forum and asking traders here to work this system out for you is almost like re inventing the wheel.
i did ask my friend for help but liek i mention, his explaination is flippy and average at best. i am a newbie to forex and a lot of the term he use to desribe his method doesn't register for me. as some one mention here before, i pay good money for this system and i'm sure ain't going to seat this one out just because i can't understand it. i know a lot of people who buy system and left it on the shelf to grow mold because its too difficult to undertand. you right, i should have fully understand the system before i buy it. but that would be giving the system away dun you tink?

i am not betraying my friend. i am just seeking alternative assistance who mother tongue is english to provide me with better explaination. my friend did all he can to try to explain the system to me as clearly as he possibly can. but since he can't provide me with visual example, i have no choice but to come here instead. it is because he is my friend i dun want him to know that i am seeking help else where. it would be an insult to him and get the wrong idea that i can't understand him well enough (the fact of the matter is i really can't understand him well enough)


best regard
haniel roswell
  • #12
  • Feb 26, 2007 4:42am Feb 26, 2007 4:42am
Quoting Hagbard Celine
I can sympathize with your need to understand the system you paid for, but you promised your friend you would not disclose it. Whether or not he would find out that you have is irrelevant. Maybe you should have waited to pay him until after you understood everything, but it's a little upsetting to see someone so quick to betray someone and break their word. Especially considering this is a friend.
thank you for understanding. please understand that i am not betraying him. i am only seeking assistance to better understand this system. if i would have betrayed him, i would have posted the system here on the forum long ago. but i did promise that iw oudl share the system with the people here in exchange for some help. i think that is fair dun you think. i believe you dun get something for nothing in this world,a nd i understand that. and i i think i ahev some right to seek help ehlp else where if i can't get it from my friend him self. he live thosuand of mile away from and the only mean of contact is through email. and i doubt even if he were in front of me in person, i doubt i would still be able to understand his explaination.

i am not a back stabber and he would know that, other wise he wouldn't share his system with me. i know him for many year and even if i did post the system here and he found out about it, he wouldn't be mad. he admited to me that that his english is not very good so if i can seek help else where, that would be for the best.

best regard
haniel roswell
  • #13
  • Feb 26, 2007 4:52am Feb 26, 2007 4:52am
Quoting Bemac
A man is as good as his word and yours is sour.



Why should anyone here that might be willing to help you {I doubt there will be many takers}, believe you?


i'm sorry you felt this way but i would like to stress again that i am not betraying my friend. i am merely seeking asisistance from other who si more technical savy then i for explanation of the 6 indicator mentioned. you dun see me posting his system and sharing it with every one. but i would if some one would be kind enough to provide me with some help and explaination of the indicator. i'm not perfect, but i'm certainly not a back stabber my friend.

would it be so bad if i do share the system with every one here in the forum? we all here to learn and grow as trader. hell, i could package the system up anbd sell it for 5000 dollar, but what would you think of me then? even though ia m new to the forum, i understand the motive here. the last thing people want to see or hear is a self proclaim guru promoting his system to every one on this forum.

if you think i'm at fault here, then by all mean i will leave. but i will still seek assistance else where, may be on other forum or may be at another thread. i may not get help from you, but i know that this is a learning and sharing community, i would recieve help from some one else.

no offense here if i offended anyone with me comment. i am just like every one else here, trying to make a living in the forex market.

best regard
haniel roswell
  • #14
  • Jul 22, 2012 3:15pm Jul 22, 2012 3:15pm
Quoting hanielroswell
i'm sorry you felt this way but i would like to stress again that i am not betraying my friend. i am merely seeking asisistance from other who si more technical savy then i for explanation of the 6 indicator mentioned. you dun see me posting his system and sharing it with every one. but i would if some one would be kind enough to provide me with some help and explaination of the indicator. i'm not perfect, but i'm certainly not a back stabber my friend.

would it be so bad if i do share the system with every one here in the forum? we all here...
If you make a Promise, no matter what, you should keep it.
It shows your Charactor when you make the secret public.
Just get back to the guy who sold it to you and ask for a Refund.
There are many many good systems here on FF for FREE!
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  • #15
  • Jul 23, 2012 8:53am Jul 23, 2012 8:53am
What a mess!! ask for a refund or ask better explanation!
  • #16
  • Last Post: Jul 23, 2012 9:49am Jul 23, 2012 9:49am
That chart needs to go here:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...t=charts+drugs
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