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  • #3,821
  • Jul 16, 2012 10:13am Jul 16, 2012 10:13am
Quoting rkp
Here ya go, pal:

Thank You Sir,

gimme a moment to run quick back test on TDI reliabilty. Trying to figure out TDI lines before and after candle closed. ( I thinks TDI show very different position before & AFTER candle closed.)

Let me check, because I never use any indicator to trade.


Cheers


PAT
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  • #3,822
  • Jul 16, 2012 10:18am Jul 16, 2012 10:18am
Quoting stevepatt
Hi rkp

Take a look at TDI on 4h TF.

As for ADR, if your trading at this time of day on an higher TF you will more than likely be holding the trade over night so ADR isn't so relevant you need to be looking at the weekly levels for trades taken from the higher TFs.
Thanks, Steve! Still learning... And because I was too timid, I didn't take the trade but I totally see your point now... and it seems to be going up and up!
  • #3,823
  • Jul 16, 2012 10:22am Jul 16, 2012 10:22am
Quoting Pat Chiko
Thank You Sir,

gimme a moment to run quick back test on TDI reliabilty. Trying to figure out TDI lines before and after candle closed. ( I thinks TDI show very different position before & AFTER candle closed.)

Let me check, because I never use any indicator to trade.


Cheers


PAT
Cool. Thanks, Pat! And it seems it's going your way - up and up!

Let us know about the TDI. Maybe I should start using the TDI RT version that was supposed to update better??? And wow! No indicators: you are a pro!
  • #3,824
  • Jul 16, 2012 10:46am Jul 16, 2012 10:46am
Quoting Pat Chiko
Thank You Sir,

gimme a moment to run quick back test on TDI reliabilty. Trying to figure out TDI lines before and after candle closed. ( I thinks TDI show very different position before & AFTER candle closed.)

Let me check, because I never use any indicator to trade.


Cheers


PAT
Take a look at this post http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...45#post5834245 it shows pretty well how the TDI is produced.
  • #3,825
  • Jul 16, 2012 10:54am Jul 16, 2012 10:54am
I chose AU trade today.
Seems not so nice as GU or EU.
Sometimes after trading I did realize Ichose the wrong pair.
Well, just folllow the LE1 rule, pipis are coming to us.
Anyway got some pips.
Any comments will be highly appreciated.
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LOVE+ PEACE to ALL
  • #3,826
  • Jul 16, 2012 11:04am Jul 16, 2012 11:04am
Hi guys, try to use TDI as an indicator to confirm your trade.
Sooner or later, we must throw it away. You know why.

Try to look at Supply & Demand zone first.
Always Look to the left of the chart!!!
Always follow the LOVE1 rule!!!

We can make it!
  • #3,827
  • Jul 16, 2012 11:05am Jul 16, 2012 11:05am
Hi, Arjun, do you mean trade M1 using this method?
  • #3,828
  • Jul 16, 2012 11:24am Jul 16, 2012 11:24am
Quoting xiaoxin
Hi, Arjun, do you mean trade M1 using this method?
ya mate....this method is little tweeked on 5mn and 1mn....i have been testing it for a while...its good...

But the confirmation is always on the 15mn chart for 5mn and 1mn...so we are basically trading 15mn but the entry will on the 1mn or 5mn chart...
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  • #3,829
  • Jul 16, 2012 11:27am Jul 16, 2012 11:27am
Quoting stevepatt
Take a look at this post http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...45#post5834245 it shows pretty well how the TDI is produced.

Hi Stevepatt,


Thanks for the post. After a quick back test, I found TDI is repainting after the candle closed. It looks good on history Chart, but on live chart, we are looking at TDI as Second Hand Data.

I will stick to me styles of trading, few lines here and there and don't crowd the Candle as I need to see PASR.

Humble Guy,


PaT CHikO
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  • #3,830
  • Jul 16, 2012 11:40am Jul 16, 2012 11:40am
1h: nice hammer closed accross round number 1.5600 was my signal to go to 15m and look for a trade after lovereverry1 posted the gu was clearly up. After studying 4h, day and weekly gu charts it was truly no brainer that gu is going up. Clearing the 4h 200ema concerned me before entry.

15m: The 15m morning star pattern was enought to take the chance. The two chocolate trendlines are from the day chart. Price bouncing off the downtrend line was extra confirmation.

Got my 20 pips.

There were a few other trades today but I couldn't seem to get oriented to the trend until loveevery1 cleared that up with his post.

Thanks Loveevery1 and friends for the help.

Steve
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  • #3,831
  • Edited 1:43pm Jul 16, 2012 11:40am | Edited 1:43pm
Quoting Pat Chiko
EU maybe I place long order when it passed 50's. SL 18 pips

Brother Arjun,

this trade was based purely on your method ( I did not say System ?)

Because you method never use Indicator, it's just PASR.

Thanks Brother, and have a good rest to fight for another day.

Note : Price stop at almost to the pips, the place I posted earlier ( that's the TP place actually) See post #3787 . Unfortunately, nobody interested to know.


Have a Great Day.


PaT cHiKO
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  • #3,832
  • Jul 16, 2012 11:42am Jul 16, 2012 11:42am
Quoting Pat Chiko
Hi Stevepatt,


Thanks for the post. After a quick back test, I found TDI is repainting after the candle closed. It looks good on history Chart, but on live chart, we are looking at TDI as Second Hand Data.

I will stick to me styles of trading, few lines here and there and don't crowd the Candle as I need to see PASR.

Humble Guy,


PaT CHikO
Hi Pat,

I don't use it any more myself, I was using it a couple of years ago with Eelfranz and the original Trading Made Simple thread. Much prefer trading the price with no distractions.
  • #3,833
  • Jul 16, 2012 11:44am Jul 16, 2012 11:44am
Quoting loveevery1
ya mate....this method is little tweeked on 5mn and 1mn....i have been testing it for a while...its good...

But the confirmation is always on the 15mn chart for 5mn and 1mn...so we are basically trading 15mn but the entry will on the 1mn or 5mn chart...
It should be good as the MA are well settled.
M5 maybe better.
For stress free, the higher time the better, I think.

I used to scalp in M1 not using this method.
1 using BANDS 233, no indicator
2 using EMA 21 34 144 confirmed by MACD

I'll keep an eye on M1 by using your LOVE1 method
though I want to move to high TF, H1 I prefer.

LOVE+PEACE
xiaoxin
  • #3,834
  • Jul 16, 2012 11:52am Jul 16, 2012 11:52am
Quoting stevepatt
Hi Pat,

I don't use it any more myself, I was using it a couple of years ago with Eelfranz and the original Trading Made Simple thread. Much prefer trading the price with no distractions.

Hi Steve,

I notice too. When I read thro FF and go thro your posting. You have nice way of to interprate PASR, trying to learn more from you and your experience.

Appreciate to have someone like you in this thread as yo can see that Arjun ( the owner of this Joint) is trying building up a team of quality traders on here. I only do my very small tiny bit to assist him whenever I can.

I've learn a lot from him and his commitment, hard work, patience, endurance, in short his "Perseverance".

Hang on to him, while he is still around in this thread.........



Sincerely,


Pat Chiko
I come from the future.
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  • #3,835
  • Edited 12:05pm Jul 16, 2012 12:01pm | Edited 12:05pm
Hi, PAT
I read your post and study it.
It is reeeally PASR trading.
I have a lot of things to learn from you.
Thank you!
This is my chart drawing by your idea, EU H1 chart.
Could you tell me if it is correct?
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Entry 2 in the chart shows the reason why you'd like to go long at 1.22250.
The R became a S. right?
  • #3,836
  • Jul 16, 2012 12:07pm Jul 16, 2012 12:07pm
STOP PRESS.


Look at this Brother Arjun, you're HOT on news.!!!!


Way to go Brother. !!!



Congrat

PAT
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  • #3,837
  • Jul 16, 2012 12:24pm Jul 16, 2012 12:24pm
Hi, Steve
Well done!
Congratulations!!!!
Thank you for posting charts and expect more.

keep good pipping!!

  • #3,838
  • Jul 16, 2012 12:41pm Jul 16, 2012 12:41pm
Quoting xiaoxin
Hi, PAT
I read your post and study it.
It is reeeally PASR trading.
I have a lot of things to learn from you.
Thank you!
This is my chart drawing by your idea, EU H1 chart.
Could you tell me if it is correct?
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Entry 2 in the chart shows the reason why you'd like to go long at 1.22250.
The R became a S. right?

Hi xiaoxin,

I can see you are serious/eager about trading PASR. For a start you have to really understand the difference between your contradacting statement.

i.e. S&R, and another is S&D ( two post with different terminology. ). If you know this, you're half way there.

HINT, HINT from Arjun Posting :-
Supply/demand = reactive
Support/resistance = proactive.

You are tellling me the OUTCOME (RESULT ="The R became a S. right?"

But if you go back to Post #3787, the Question is WHY ?.

The answer is already given by Assange earlier last week ( I think), look for her posting, you'll find my WHY answer.


Note : Do you observe this " WHY " things ? That's what Arjun had been asking us all along in his posting. Honestly, if you able to answer all his WHY, you'll know his METHOD very well. ( Look at all his post again, not casual but, seriously !!!)

The other half is PA :-

you never mentioned about PA in your posting, look again at PA in the area of S&R, where demand is created from PPA.

Find the trigger candle in 240m TF and narrow it down to 60M TF for entry candle. Can you name the candle which the action/formation took place at the exact Support lines, thus created "confluence".



Quoting xiaoxin
Hi guys, try to use TDI as an indicator to confirm your trade.
Sooner or later, we must throw it away. You know why.

Try to look at Supply & Demand zone first.
Always Look to the left of the chart!!!
Always follow the LOVE1 rule!!!

We can make it!

This is the way to move forward, the only way while Arjun is generous with his TIME & ENERGY for all of us. All his posting are meant to be educational purposes to better prepare us for live trading. We know that education is useless unless we are successful at applying it?

You have to find all the answer available ( ALL in here in this Thread).


Sincerely,


PAT CHIKO
I come from the future.
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  • #3,839
  • Jul 16, 2012 12:57pm Jul 16, 2012 12:57pm
Quoting Pat Chiko
Brother Arjun,

this trade was based purely on your method ( I did not say System ?)

Because you method never use Indicator, it's just PASR.

Thanks Brother, and have a good rest to fight for another day.

Note : Price stop at almost to the pips, the place I posted earlier ( that's the TP place actually) See post #3787 . Unfortunately, nobody interested to know.


Have a Great Day.


PaT cHiKO

Hello PAT,,,,my brother..The kinda results you show are incredible...what can i say other than praying for you.your helping nature will bring you peace and happiness in your life...I must learn to hold like you.but i tend to move away from my computer quickly.god bless me.

I'm nothing in front of you brother.you are already a very experienced trader.i have learnt lot of things from you.plz keep posting so we all can learn...and forgive the folks here who dont want to even reply..its ok.lets do our part...thats all..LOL
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  • #3,840
  • Jul 16, 2012 1:06pm Jul 16, 2012 1:06pm
Quoting Pat Chiko
STOP PRESS.


Look at this Brother Arjun, you're HOT on news.!!!!


Way to go Brother. !!!



Congrat

PAT
God bless every living thing....
The credit goes to all the posters...i thank everyone personally....i see lot of new folks in here...lot of old folks have jumped on to another thread i suppose or chatting in the chat room and not posting...god bless them...


PAT/ASSANGE/GIBRIL(miss him)/stevewide/ORKO./.xiaoxin/omar...

forgive me if i have missed someone...god bless everyone..
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