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  • #4,781
  • Jul 2, 2012 8:46pm Jul 2, 2012 8:46pm
Quoting SunTrader
Yes but why are there floods and other weather events in certain parts of the globe this time of the year.

Due to the planetary movements and the moon, affecting tides and winds and the sun affecting temperatures.
Quoting Ilovepippin
This is a fallacy, because I could have predicted something completely different. In that case you would have been correct in saying that astrology is bogus.

Also, these predictions came through rules of astrology, you can verify that.
I think you both missed the point. The point/question actually is: what is that something new that astrology brings into this? What rule you want to use to predict from it is a different matter here, nor is the why/or reason caused by planets or not is relevant. If one knows that already easily, why astrology? I think when you so deeply believe in it then it's easy to have confirmation bias. You see everything in that light only. And you see what you want to see.

I didn't mean to make my posts offensive, but since you felt so offended by a simple fact offered by others, perhaps I should just go ahead to say that it's only arm-chaired general type who know not much about the world would need astrology to know that in many parts of the world at this time of the year there are certain weather events. It's not too dissimilar to the reason why people felt to need to have a little unknown book written a few thousand years ago to find answers and to tell right from wrong simply because they didn't know enough to find the answers themselves. (Even in that regard, it's bogus as different cultures worship different gods and not all are under monoatheism.)
  • #4,782
  • Jul 2, 2012 9:10pm Jul 2, 2012 9:10pm
Quoting Ss7225
I think you both missed the point. The point/question actually is: what is that something new that astrology brings into this? What rule you want to use to predict from it is a different matter here, nor is the why/or reason caused by planets or not is relevant. If one knows that already easily, why astrology? I think when you so deeply believe in it then it's easy to have confirmation bias. You see everything in that light only. And you see what you want to see.

I didn't mean to make my posts offensive, but since you felt so offended by a simple...
Well, I am not offended and you are entitled to your believes.
  • #4,783
  • Jul 2, 2012 9:22pm Jul 2, 2012 9:22pm
I think to be honest anyone with common sense can make affiliations or links to that - same with monsoon season in India (which, does not need to cause any damage) I think you will find the difference between someone who can observe weather "correlations" to someone using astrology is the fact the the astrology aspect will take one year for example, where you would say well it flooded last year so it will this year and say nope, no floods this year, nor the next, but the year after yes!

life, the world, mother nature and the universe is all about cycles... the difference between the layman and the Gann trader who knows astrology is the difference between knowing and presuming/guessing.

as for his track record - it was actually officially audited from external sources to make it unbiased.. cant get anymore un-controversial than that..

Quoting Ss7225
I have not personally investigated whether Gann was the greatest of all time, and his historic track record is of a bit of controversy and a matter of debate.

However, when it comes to astrology and flood and/or China etc... I know China reasonably well, having lived in the far east for a long time, in summer time it's customarily a time of flood, storm, and landslides, the yearly flood of the Yangtze and/or Yellow river is almost a ritual and so the various donation activities around that time of the year, and the army is always mobilised in...
"Millionaires don't use astrology, billionaires do"
  • #4,784
  • Jul 2, 2012 9:30pm Jul 2, 2012 9:30pm
no one takes offense bro so dont worry - as for the book you are relating too - it is someones perception of certain events given in details and then changed or withheld as the ages came through..

you are right though, if we all asked better questions of the world the world would realise that all religions per se are correct in one aspect or another - these bigger questions should also be asked of astrology, and one should maybe know more about it before having a view point.

People like the head puncho for deusche bank, I think, using astro for all trading and predicting the markets and world affairs.. how do I know this - well my friends who are traders and brokers and I have won money on the grand national where for the past 3 years he has predicted using astro who would be the top 3 horses coming in... fluke....? coincidence...? nah no such thing - he knows astro well!

anyway - dont forget all these are observations and we all have subjective ideas on objective realities (if this is all real haha) - maybe seek to find what serves us better and remember - knowledge is power and boy I have seen the power of astro in markets and so much more outside of it



Quoting Ss7225
I think you both missed the point. The point/question actually is: what is that something new that astrology brings into this? What rule you want to use to predict from it is a different matter here, nor is the why/or reason caused by planets or not is relevant. If one knows that already easily, why astrology? I think when you so deeply believe in it then it's easy to have confirmation bias. You see everything in that light only. And you see what you want to see.

I didn't mean to make my posts offensive, but since you felt so offended by a simple...
"Millionaires don't use astrology, billionaires do"
  • #4,785
  • Jul 3, 2012 12:06am Jul 3, 2012 12:06am
Quoting Ss7225
If one knows that already easily, why astrology? I think when you so deeply believe in it then it's easy to have confirmation bias. You see everything in that light only. And you see what you want to see.
Well, this is a remark that sort of misses the point imho, because it comes down to the question on cause and effect. Just because you didn't read our previous work (some has been published) that you believe that we are not able to be objective on the matter.

I think that in the case of tickers (graphs) and astroNOMical events, the debate can be quite easily solved no? just run statistics, deviations, significance. No need to believe anything, just know the statistical truth.

World events can be tracked the same way (mundane astroLOGy), you can use Wikipedia as a ticker.

why don't we stop guessing and start knowing?
  • #4,786
  • Jul 3, 2012 12:11am Jul 3, 2012 12:11am
Current moon longitude situation
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  • #4,787
  • Jul 3, 2012 1:26am Jul 3, 2012 1:26am
Sti (bow), how in the name of merciful Lord did you manage to get your signature under price quotes on Chart (bow)?
Quoting Sti
Current moon longitude situation
Well, mysterious are the codings of the Sti! LOL.

I had a dream few weeks ago... it said... Matei 7:11. (Mathew that is).

Best regards,

Simon
  • #4,788
  • Jul 3, 2012 1:42am Jul 3, 2012 1:42am
Quoting Sti
Well, this is a remark that sort of misses the point imho, because it comes down to the question on cause and effect. Just because you didn't read our previous work (some has been published) that you believe that we are not able to be objective on the matter.

I think that in the case of tickers (graphs) and astroNOMical events, the debate can be quite easily solved no? just run statistics, deviations, significance. No need to believe anything, just know the statistical truth.

World events can be tracked the same way (mundane...
Agree with Sti

I planned to study on the bullish or bearish affect statistics of the aspects on EUR/USD but i saw it is much more time consuming then expected and often confusing when more then one aspect happen in a short time period.. But agree that we need to do such a study.
  • #4,789
  • Jul 3, 2012 1:49am Jul 3, 2012 1:49am
Matthew 7:11 - If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

Thanks Simon, me you be blessed for sharing this

It is indeed coded in the indi, it's the function Comment() that allows you to place text right there. you can even do this on just an empty indicator.

I have attached a sample, just open the thing in your editor and where you see the text "enter text here", you enter the qoute you want, save it, compile it, then in metatrader drop it onto the window you want.

Have fun!
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  • #4,790
  • Jul 3, 2012 1:55am Jul 3, 2012 1:55am
Now I come to think of it Simon.... are you sure that this is the target? sounds a bit far off doesn't it ? Matthew 7:11
  • #4,791
  • Jul 3, 2012 2:12am Jul 3, 2012 2:12am
Quoting Ilovepippin
Yes, very funny. But it would behoove you to listen and look at the facts.
Fact is that Gann, the greatest of all time, used astrology. Everyone wants to learn what Gann did, but nobody wants to get into astrology.
In 2009 there were 3 jupiter-neptune aspects and look at all the floodigs for that year: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2009_floods

2008 same thing many Neptune aspects. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2008_Midwest_floods

I predicted mudslides and guess what: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06...ides-in-china/
This...

I wasn't making fun bro. That's why I read this thread
  • #4,792
  • Jul 3, 2012 11:28am Jul 3, 2012 11:28am
Upcoming Magnitude of Moon for July-Aug. 24 plotted against EUR/USD Daily chart...
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  • #4,793
  • Jul 3, 2012 9:31pm Jul 3, 2012 9:31pm
Here's one for dDec...Sidereal..ILP can you explain if this is different than declination as expressed in degrees:minutes:seconds?
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  • #4,794
  • Jul 3, 2012 9:35pm Jul 3, 2012 9:35pm
From Calsky.org. I saved a copy into notepad then opened it in excel to get each of the columns separated... I haven't figured out how to convert degrees:minutes:seconds into one value that excel can build a chart from...
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  • #4,795
  • Jul 4, 2012 6:12pm Jul 4, 2012 6:12pm
Quoting forex_growth
no one takes offense bro so dont worry - as for the book you are relating too - it is someones perception of certain events given in details and then changed or withheld as the ages came through..

you are right though, if we all asked better questions of the world the world would realise that all religions per se are correct in one aspect or another - these bigger questions should also be asked of astrology, and one should maybe know more about it before having a view point.

People like the head puncho for deusche bank, I think, using astro...
Hey, whats up doc?
Yes, i am familiar with those methods as well.
Actually, in his 'retirement' period, Gann and his friend Sepharial used to play the horses quite a bit.
They were quite successful but 3 grand nationals, and i know they were not all won by the favorites, is quite a feat.
  • #4,796
  • Jul 4, 2012 6:15pm Jul 4, 2012 6:15pm
Quoting jnevins
Here's one for dDec...Sidereal..ILP can you explain if this is different than declination as expressed in degrees:minutes:seconds?
The degrees on the sidereal are different than on tropical. The moon would also be in a different sign on sidereal. But the lateral motion is relatively the same as that's measured from the equator.
  • #4,797
  • Jul 4, 2012 9:31pm Jul 4, 2012 9:31pm
Quoting jnevins
Here's one for dDec...Sidereal..ILP can you explain if this is different than declination as expressed in degrees:minutes:seconds?
which time zone do you use in your charts?
  • #4,798
  • Jul 4, 2012 9:46pm Jul 4, 2012 9:46pm
Quoting makefortune
which time zone do you use in your charts?
My location Easter Daylight Time... I am located 55 miles NW of New York City.

Thanks for the comment ILP.
  • #4,799
  • Jul 5, 2012 4:32pm Jul 5, 2012 4:32pm
Quoting forex_growth
no one takes offense bro so dont worry - as for the book you are relating too - it is someones perception of certain events given in details and then changed or withheld as the ages came through..


I think if your ingrained belief leads you to accept certain things unquestioningly and without skepticism, and so would not ponder deeply about the vast philosophical and moral implication of all that, there is another easy route letting some other people to enlighten you a little bit. There are some great series on TED and even on YouTube.

But of course, you're entitled to your own belief. But it's also a shame to overturn hundreds years of endeavours of the enlightenment project and ultimately a humiliation on humanity.

Nonetheless, this is a futile line of arguments for both side.

  • #4,800
  • Jul 5, 2012 11:34pm Jul 5, 2012 11:34pm
Well... the bottom fell out of that one
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